RailRider Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Just curious how many know that Six Flags is now under new ownership? That the new ownership is increasing prices and going to move away from instaling big coasters every year? SF:MM is going to charge $59.99 for admission next year along with $15 to park. That is more than it costs to go to a Disney or Universal park. Does anyone beleive that SixFlags MM is worth that cost? How about the fact that they are going to raise parking at the majority of their parks and that they are also going to raise most ticket prices. Lets see, that would cost my wife and I $134.98 before taxes. Once you pay taxes you are looking at around $150.00 just to get in the park. Who is going to pay that kind of money if you dont have a seasson pass? Also the new CEO has said that SF is going to stop discounting their tickets like they have in the past. So raise prices for entrance and parking, discontinue ticket discounts, and stop building the massive coasters on a yearly basis. Does this really sound like good business, especially for a company that is strugling badly? Not to mention they already tried the notion of not letting re-entry in to the parks (No hand Stamps). What is this company thinking? Not like they provide friendly customer service, a clean environment, or they have the best maintence in the industry. I wouldn't go buying SixFlags stock anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 It does seem like a bad business plan but, you have to consider the markets the parks are in, not all of them have a rival park or attraction center near by to compete with so in their area they have somewhat of a monopoly on the amusement park factor and are hoping people will pay that much for that, maybe thats what theyre hoping, however are all ticket prices going up to that much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 They havent decided on all parks, but most ticket prices are going up. SFMM has competition and they are going to have the highest price in the market. Does that mean they provide an experience like Disney Land? Their regional parks do ok for themselves, but by noway does that mean they should raise prices like this all around. They need to improve some major opperational issues first. I.E. Customer Service, Maintence, and Park Cleanliness. SF does not understand the importance of those qualities or they have very inept people performing those jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKlockster Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I bet they will sell or stop managing a lot of parks. Like you can buy your season pass at Wyandot Lake in Columbus for like 35 bucks - and it will get you into any SF park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRickster Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 They havent decided on all parks, but most ticket prices are going up. SFMM has competition and they are going to have the highest price in the market. Does that mean they provide an experience like Disney Land? Their regional parks do ok for themselves, but by noway does that mean they should raise prices like this all around. They need to improve some major opperational issues first. I.E. Customer Service, Maintence, and Park Cleanliness. SF does not understand the importance of those qualities or they have very inept people performing those jobs. As long as people keep coming nothing will change except the prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Im sure they change those rules real fast or they start selling parks. Im sure this will help kill attendance and I doubt people will keep coming. Im ready to watch the continous downfall of SixFlags. Hold on because it is a long ways down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzarley Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Just curious how many know that Six Flags is now under new ownership? I understand the point you're trying to make, but technically, Six Flags isn't under new ownership--it's under new management. Dan Snyder (a major stockholder) launched a proxy fight to install his own slate of directors, who in turn tossed out the CEO, who in turn tossed out just about everyone else in senior management and replaced them with his own picks. You're right that this certainly affords the opportunity of a "fresh start" for SF (as far as management and strategy go, anyway.) However, "ownership" actually remains pretty much the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill_Biscuit Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Do they have any programs for underprivileged or disadvantaged people? That looks like a of someone's paycheck for just one person to enjoy their parks. I love Capitalism, but something seems a little prohibitive in their management. I hope the idea doesn't catch on for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Something you may not realize is that Season Passes are $59.99. It seems that they are just focusing on selling season passes for the park. Since a great deal of the business at Magic Mountain is repeat business, this may be a plan to generate further revenue. Goliath is Opening April 1 here in Georgia - I'm actually going to buy a pass this year. (Have not had one for 3 years.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cewldre Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 well, from personal experience, SF has a long uphill battle. Last time I went to a six flags, it was much worse off than before it was bought out. I do not like how SF manages their parks or their people. It seems like they do need to refocus the park on cleaning up their act. I think they did get carried away on coasters and forgot about maintenance of older rides. When I was at SFKK last, most rides were in bad need of paint. A tree was growing right under T2 that needed trimming, because me, at 5'9" hit the tree with my feet. Good thing I wasn't taller, or it could have been a problem. A lot of rides were not able to open due to maintenance concerns and most associates were poor at best. Now, this how I hear things are at all SF. I went to the one in Chicago (Great America?) and it wasn't much better than KK. As I said, it's going to be an uphill battle for them. This is one battle I am not sure they can win, they may sell them off within the next 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubaman Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Is SFOG a nice park? I'll be there on May 8th on a school band trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 SFOG is a nice park. It's clean and it's well run. You'll find most the rides well maintained and running. I'd say that it compares relatively well to Kings Island but then I'm biased. I think that they do some things better and some things worse. It's a give and take thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubaman Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 SFOG is a nice park. It's clean and it's well run. You'll find most the rides well maintained and running. I'd say that it compares relatively well to Kings Island but then I'm biased. I think that they do some things better and some things worse. It's a give and take thing. Thanks. I'm looking forward to this trip...and because I have no life I took time to make a booklet with the names of their rides and the priority of riding it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Rider Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Is SFOG a nice park? I'll be there on May 8th on a school band trip. on a monday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Probably a closed day for the general public. SFOG opens up on March 4. Goliath opens in April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted January 27, 2006 Author Share Posted January 27, 2006 I would imagine with normal gate prices going up, seasson passes go up also. Just makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Bowser Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 If gate prices go up then I dont go! I already canned my trip to orlando due to price hikes cant afford this and with gas being so high and the heating bills here in ohio are killing me & my family as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 If you are planning on buying a Six Flags season pass, you might want to do so quickly. Prices have already risen on them once, and may well again several times before opening days at the respective parks. The no-reentry policy has already been rescinded, but there will be major changes at Six Flags this year. See this article, for instance: http://www.ajc.com/news/content/business/s...izsixflags.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubaman Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Okay, I think I lied. I guess our band will be there on a Sunday. Really not sure though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersNSich Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I think Mark Shapiro, the new CEO, might be showing some new hope. He seems to understand the capacity issue, where additional coaster trains, flume boats, and other ride vehicles, sit idle when they are usable, especially on busy days. I also agree with him (somewhat) on a need to concentrate on park guests other than teens by adding family and children's rides. At several of their parks, like Magic Mountain, Great America, Great Adventure, and Over Georgia, their coaster line-ups are complete, IMO, so they should do well diversifying their ride lineup. I'd like to see SFMM re-open their sky tower and Metro monorail - these attractions would be great for those who avoid the coasters. Letting go of Flashback isn't bad either. BUT this doesn't mean that they should stop building large coasters altogether. After over 5 years, the thrill-seekers want something new and huge. Hopefully one non-SF park I know well understands this... One thing I'd disagree with him on is Mr. Six - I thought he was a great icon for the Six Flags brand, and he stood for the need to get away from everyday work and to go and have fun - now matter how creepy he is! As for season pass prices, they are too cheap, IMO. This might price them out of the market for some guests, but passes should be at least three times the cost of a single-day admission. If passes bring in people who spend little-to-none in the park on food or drink, then this hurts them in revenue - unlike a guest spending the whole day on a full-priced (or discounted) one-day ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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