The Interpreter Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Under that theory, why does KI have a ride themed to Italian Stunt Job???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKlockster Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 What is the Core? Is it a movie? Yeah it almost did as bad as Day After Tomorrow. And both were unrealistic and liberal talking points. At least The Core had some big actors in it.Aaron Eckhart. Hilary Swank. Delroy Lindo. Some real A Listers there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I only remember one thing about when i saw the day after tommorow with my then girlfriend and it had nothing to do with that awful movie. Poor Dennis Quaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Honestly though I am glad the P has been dropped from PKI because Paramount is honestly the king of suck fest films. How many more rides would they have been able to theme to Paramount movies??? If you look at what they have put out recently and whats coming out in the future there are very few that were box office success. Of those even less that would translate in to a themed ride. Glad with Cedar Fair we wont need to put up with these crappy movie themed rides. Especially one themed after the Core Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Well, if you want to be technical, the P has not yet been dropped from PKI. Yeah, they are no longer owned by Paramount, but Cedar Fair has not said whether or not they intend to drop the Paramount moniker after this season. I believe that they will. The only indication that Cedar Fair has given is that they are considering renewing the Nick license agreement and are considering not utilizing the full ten year agreement with Paramount. So while they might make the name simply KI again next year, I doubt we see much in changes in renaming/retheming rides that are already Paramount related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Well, that and the fact that only temporary season pass cards are being issued at the former "Paramount Parks" Cedar Fair Parks. I can see in my mind's eye stacks and stacks of season pass blanks that said Paramount's Name of Park on them, and a Mr. Kinzel who said: "I don't care what it costs us or how long it takes, I don't want to use THOSE!" Remember, I said I can see in my mind's eye...I don't know that is what happened, but I bet something similar did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 ^ I would agree with that completely. Seems like something along those lines did happen. I honestly dont expect CedarFair to keep the Paramount name or theme for very long. They didn't keep any signs of the SixFlags or Warner Brothers theme at GL. Keep Nick but thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Although, admittedly, Six Flags, the former owner of GLP did not sell or license to CF the use of any Warner (they couldn't) or Six Flags (they wouldn't) properties at GLP, as the chain was staying in business at other locales. The transition at GLP was hurried, and not exactly the nicest, but it was thorough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I honestly think that hurried yet thorough change, which CF had no choice to make, is part of GL's problems today. I honestly hope the park can come out of it, because it is a truly beatufil and fun park. I think we will see the same thorough changes at KI, but will not be as hurried as it was a GL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Bowser Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 For one thing what I'm about to say isnt bashing Kings Island it's bashing Paramount! I remember when Nick Universe was annouced and they said that for Spongebob's Bikni bottom bash that guests would enter spongebob's pineapple house and exit squidwards tiki island house.Now can anyone PLEASE tell me where is squidwards house? I told my nephew about that attraction and when I took him this summer he loved the attraction but he kept asking about squidwards house! Did Paramount got cheap on the kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 The only thing decent coming from Paramount this year is the We Are Marshall movie. Paramount is the king of dud movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Paramount is the absolute king of Crap Movies. They use to be a leader in block busters, but now they aren't even average. Paramount I think has a lot of problems. Everything from subpar movies to the inability to run themeparks. Honestly we may be seeing the decline of Paramount is this is just the begining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzarley Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Paramount is the absolute king of Crap Movies. They use to be a leader in block busters, but now they aren't even average. Paramount I think has a lot of problems. Everything from subpar movies to the inability to run themeparks. Honestly we may be seeing the decline of Paramount is this is just the begining. ...of course, Parmount hasn't been an independent entity since the early/mid 90s. Since then, it's been one of the many units of Viacom. (And, of course, the parks got shuffled off to CBS as part of the recent split...) While I think we can all find things to fault Paramount/Viacom/CBS's running of the parks (I have my own personal list ), and for all of Viacom's problems (crappy movies, etc.), I don't think most analysts would agree with the assessment of their "inability to run themeparks." One of the things that came out during the 8K disclosures when CF was finalizing the acquisition, was that the theme park arm of the business was pretty darn healthy, and park management was pretty effective...consistently delivering improved revenues, income, and attendance. Granted, their per caps and margins weren't as good as Cedar Fair, but for a company (Viacom) whose theme park business only accounted for 5-7% of annual revenues, they ran a pretty tight ship on the business side of things. http://biz.yahoo.com/e/060616/fun8-k.html And, of course remember, Paramount Parks sold at the very top of the sale price estimates...the bidders obviously perceived a valuable product...unlike the attempted sale of SF six months earlier that failed to attract even the minimum considered bid. I think the biggest problem after Viacom came into the picture in '94 was that management had absolutely no vision as to how the theme parks could be leveraged to provide synergistic opportunities throughout the whole organization. (Which is pretty dumb, considering they had Disney to look to as a model.) I think that's evidenced by how the parks got passed around from division to division (Blockbuster, MTV Networks, and finally CBS...) It's almost like Sumner Redstone ever really considered the parks a "real" business. For that, I think we're fortunate that a company that does NOTHING BUT parks now owns KI. (IMHO, the only better result from the enthusiast standpoint would have been for BEC to purchase the parks...) The media/entertainment segment as a whole has some issues right now (see Dick Parsons' ongoing battles at TW for evidence of that), and Viacom certainly has their fair share. In fact, right now, Disney seems to be the only bright spot in the segment...and just remember how recently people were mourning its results. As Michael Eisner was fond of saying..."it only takes one good TV show and a few good movies to turn things around." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Yeah it is pretty obvious that Paramount Parks could turn profit, because they cut back on many things that hurt the estethic value of the park. For example, who needs landscaping, screw painting rides or fixing up their stations and ques, and also making cuts on attraction. Hence the problems with IJ:ST Paramount parks did just enough to make the experience pleasent, the rides good, and the park enjoyable, but where did they ever excell? Nowhere, because they only did enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzarley Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 ^ A CEO I used to work for always used this quote (that probably applies to Paramount Parks), and has stuck in my mind over the years: "Sometimes on a scale from one to ten, a seven is good enough" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Bowser Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 True I agree with you RailRider as for crap movies look at Jackass: The Movie it did make a good chunk of money for paramount I wonder if Jackass Number 2 will do good at the box office I know I'm going to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Yeah I will see it too. Eventhough as movies go it will be crap, but I know it will be very funny. Loved the golf and airhorns from the last one. Love the quote, that sometimes 7 is good enough. I think that sums it all up for Paramount Parks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 At the end, when CBS was tightening the money vice, the actual quote used within Paramount Parks was "cheap and cheerful." As in make it "cheap and cheerful." IJST is probably a great example of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKlockster Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 I read somewhere it cost about 3.5 million Candian dollars - so its definately cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Bowser Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 IJ:ST is one of the worst attractions at PKI and they overhyped to be something that IOA wouldh have come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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