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Maybe you hit a lucky day. I have been there approximately 20 times over the last three years and seen it racing about five days out of those visits.

Do you think they’re going to reduce the price of their gold pass in 2024? If not the combination cost more than the current platinum pass! They would have to reduce the current prices by $85 to meet their $65 advertise discount!

Maybe you hit it in lucky days. I have been to KD over the past several years and it races maybe 25% of the days at best on my visits . Even one side on some Saturdays. They synced lift hills was great when they installed it but now one side always leaves the top a train ahead and there is never an actual race

Running one side of Racer in the name of penny pinching is ridiculous. There are a few racing roller coasters left in this world, and Kings Island has one of them and refuses (at times) to give the customers this unique experience. It’s an average coaster at best when one side runs. When it races, it’s a fun exciting, experience because of the competition and interaction with the other train and riders. Plus is a capacity hog that can give customers a coaster ride with little wait. Anytime customers wait less they are happier. They open the second side late and close it early even on busy days. Kings Dominion hardly races there’s at all anymore. Even some Saturdays. Chipping away at great experiences piece by piece adds up to a lesser experience. No, its not Six Flags……yet. They haven’t closed entire park sections for the year and there aren’t weeds growing instead of flowers.

CF has it all figured out. Attendance is down, so take away more to further drive down attendance they already love to chase away customers by cutting hours with no notice if attendance is low Genius. No wonder CF stock is falling. They have no business plan to bring in more customers. They are dependent on perfect weather for crowds. Cost cutting will bring short term profits, but will chase away long-term revenues.

It sounds like they’re going to be closing the park early a lot in the future. This is disgusting charging people for the option to refund. If a business can’t provide what they advertise (posted operating hours) then give refunds. Keeping people’s money without providing the advertise good or service is not a good way to generate future business. Cedar Fair really is low on ethics these days between this and all their bait and switch.

Canadas Wonderland already does not include parking with a gold pass. They currently advertise a platinum pass for C$290. It includes parking Gold there is C$135 plus C$75 for parking and then the C$100 all park upgrade That’s C$310 Then Canadas Wonderland has this bold lie in print on the Passport page there’s no savings of $65. It’s at least $20 more! Why does a Cedar Fair choose to do business in a shady way and use bait and switch? “With the introduction of the All Park Passport, the Platinum Pass will no longer be offered in 2024. But don’t worry—you can still get the same benefits with the purchase of a 2024 Gold pass with the All Park Passport. Plus, the combined price of a 2024 Gold Pass and All Park Passport is less than the price of a 2023 Platinum Pass, meaning you save up to $65†! ”

Cedar Fair is the king of bait and switch. They did it with the prestige pass this year, they do it with their operating hours when they close early and blame the weather even though it’s low attendance, they do it when they advertise a discounted ticket price and then tack on a processing fee, and now there’s this. they even have this sleazy disclaimer on their season pass page “Season Pass benefits subject to change without notice. Platinum and Prestige+ Passholder benefits may vary by park. Contact the park you are planning to visit for any questions regarding applicable benefits.” While they are advertising that the gold plus new upgrade is costing less than a current platinum pass, I don’t trust them with their bait and switch way of doing business. There’s going to be a catch. They are going to take something away and we will end up paying more. Maybe it’s the all park dining and drink plans for example…..

I believe the step back is caused by Cedar Fairs general cost cutting. Less quality ingredients. Etc. Also it’s pretty difficult to get good employees that can cook food correctly with Cedar Fairs policy of cutting employee hours without notice if attendance is low.

The one at Hershey was the best one ever. It was built in top of a hill, so it felt much higher than any others Condor is a great comfortable high capacity flat ride. It’s still manufactured by Huss. The superior (to Endeavour) Enterprise is also still manufactured. There is a version with alternating enclosed gondola (no restraint) and open side by side seating. It’s a shame Sol Spin isn’t one of those.

The problem with moving hips forward while riding this ride is that one’s spine will now be curved instead of straight up or down against the seat back. This ride applies some good G forces and it is not a good idea to absorb G forces with ones back curved. this ride is just poorly designed. I would guess that the gryphon at kennywood has the same type of seating.

Carowinds is the leader of Cedar Fair bait and switch. This isn’t surprising

The same for the Helicopter monorail

The fact that this ride operated unsafely for nearly a week with this structural failure shows how much tide safety is being neglected so Cedar Fair can cut costs. Carowinds has chased off qualified constantly cutting their hours at the last minute with early closures. now this cost cutting has translated to less safe rides. This is exactly how the big thunder mountain tragedy happened at Disneyland. Cost cutting This all falls in the VP

Don’t get too excited about Phantom Theater returning to the park. I feel if the ride returns it will be a cheap screen based version like Knotts Bear-y Tales remake. Not the quality, near Disney quality, animatronic version that we had before. Cedar Fair has not installed a quality dark ride to date.

Cutting the budget on live entertainment is another financially stupid move long term. It further alienates the non thrill customers that already dint have enough to do at Cedar Fair parks. They seem to just want ti regurgitate the same thrill seeking market and not attract new demographics

Yes. KI has the worst food out of the 4 CF parks I have attended this year (CP Carowinds KD KI) That honor used to belong to CP but thei upped their menus the past seasons. I went to KD this week The food there is great It absolutely verified to me how bad KI is. And just mad me sad how bad KI messed up Grain and Grill. Every single thing I have eaten at one of those other parks is of less quality if the is something comparable at KI Ki can’t even make simple pizza that’s good I did think Canadas Wonderland was a tad bit worse than KI when I visited last year Mainly because of lack of choice rather than inedible food

It is. Both KD and Carowinds have good brisket.

Why would these parks include every special and new food on the (rather low cost) meal plans All the CF parks offer a big variety on the plan. As horrid as KI food is, there’s plenty to choose from already. It’s dumb business to put everything on it and not encourage more spending.

I don’t think adding 4 or 5 flat rides to KI would affect Cedar Point. But it would help capacity on the many busy days at KI.

I have to say the Flying Eagles look better than ever with their current paint scheme at Carowinds. The cycle there is short and ends just as you get good dives going. Carowinds has 17 flat rides now including Carrousel, Drop Tower and Dodgem. I don’t understand why a park with such lower attendance than KI warrants the number of flats KI SHOULD have. It also got the better Giga. BTW a trip to Carowinds is a waste of money if there is any rain in the forecast. I was down there last Sunday. It thunderstormed from 2 to 3 rained another hour and they closed the park at 4:30 after the rain stopped. The sun was out at 6. They were scheduled to close at 10 This is the third time in a month that the park has closed early. That’s how bad the attendance is there. The park wasn’t even crowded before the rain. Fury was a one train wait on a Sunday

The Endeavour is definitely the poor man’s enterprise and KI got the cheapest version. At least it looks good spinning at full height from a distance through the (few) trees. I’m happy to see budget spent on well thought out theming. But the trade off was rather junky Zamperla rides. Zamperla needs to stick to kiddie rides IMO They couldn’t find enough in the budget to build shade structures. I think KI loves ti torture guests in the blazing sun. Many of the queues and most of the midways are bare.

I found the seats on Sol Spin very uncomfortable. I am 6’3 with 33 waist and the sides of the seats are more narrow than my hip bones and were crushing them. I don’t have wide hips. It’s actually the most uncomfortable seat I have experienced on a flat ride The restraints also don’t raise very high. I had to duck to get into them. The ride action itself is fine But I still prefer the freeness and comfort of a Huss Enterprise with no restraint

Thanks. Why can’t they just post that by the stage?

Retrospect is high quality. Especially the choreography. The choreographer knows how to feel music to the movements. They eliminated the live band It’s a soundtrack I would choose dancers over a band anyway since they are visual So there was a budget cut But honestly the sound track is powerful The show has an odd, non posted schedule It’s split into two different 15 min sets interspersed with a dj party. People cannot know when the show is happening unless they walk by Why does KI do thst? They do the same thing with the Nativity show at Winterfest The other parks have these same shows with posted show times