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I believe the step back is caused by Cedar Fairs general cost cutting. Less quality ingredients. Etc. Also it’s pretty difficult to get good employees that can cook food correctly with Cedar Fairs policy of cutting employee hours without notice if attendance is low.

The one at Hershey was the best one ever. It was built in top of a hill, so it felt much higher than any others Condor is a great comfortable high capacity flat ride. It’s still manufactured by Huss. The superior (to Endeavour) Enterprise is also still manufactured. There is a version with alternating enclosed gondola (no restraint) and open side by side seating. It’s a shame Sol Spin isn’t one of those.

The problem with moving hips forward while riding this ride is that one’s spine will now be curved instead of straight up or down against the seat back. This ride applies some good G forces and it is not a good idea to absorb G forces with ones back curved. this ride is just poorly designed. I would guess that the gryphon at kennywood has the same type of seating.

Carowinds is the leader of Cedar Fair bait and switch. This isn’t surprising

The same for the Helicopter monorail

The fact that this ride operated unsafely for nearly a week with this structural failure shows how much tide safety is being neglected so Cedar Fair can cut costs. Carowinds has chased off qualified constantly cutting their hours at the last minute with early closures. now this cost cutting has translated to less safe rides. This is exactly how the big thunder mountain tragedy happened at Disneyland. Cost cutting This all falls in the VP

Don’t get too excited about Phantom Theater returning to the park. I feel if the ride returns it will be a cheap screen based version like Knotts Bear-y Tales remake. Not the quality, near Disney quality, animatronic version that we had before. Cedar Fair has not installed a quality dark ride to date.

Cutting the budget on live entertainment is another financially stupid move long term. It further alienates the non thrill customers that already dint have enough to do at Cedar Fair parks. They seem to just want ti regurgitate the same thrill seeking market and not attract new demographics

Yes. KI has the worst food out of the 4 CF parks I have attended this year (CP Carowinds KD KI) That honor used to belong to CP but thei upped their menus the past seasons. I went to KD this week The food there is great It absolutely verified to me how bad KI is. And just mad me sad how bad KI messed up Grain and Grill. Every single thing I have eaten at one of those other parks is of less quality if the is something comparable at KI Ki can’t even make simple pizza that’s good I did think Canadas Wonderland was a tad bit worse than KI when I visited last year Mainly because of lack of choice rather than inedible food

It is. Both KD and Carowinds have good brisket.

Why would these parks include every special and new food on the (rather low cost) meal plans All the CF parks offer a big variety on the plan. As horrid as KI food is, there’s plenty to choose from already. It’s dumb business to put everything on it and not encourage more spending.

I don’t think adding 4 or 5 flat rides to KI would affect Cedar Point. But it would help capacity on the many busy days at KI.

I have to say the Flying Eagles look better than ever with their current paint scheme at Carowinds. The cycle there is short and ends just as you get good dives going. Carowinds has 17 flat rides now including Carrousel, Drop Tower and Dodgem. I don’t understand why a park with such lower attendance than KI warrants the number of flats KI SHOULD have. It also got the better Giga. BTW a trip to Carowinds is a waste of money if there is any rain in the forecast. I was down there last Sunday. It thunderstormed from 2 to 3 rained another hour and they closed the park at 4:30 after the rain stopped. The sun was out at 6. They were scheduled to close at 10 This is the third time in a month that the park has closed early. That’s how bad the attendance is there. The park wasn’t even crowded before the rain. Fury was a one train wait on a Sunday

The Endeavour is definitely the poor man’s enterprise and KI got the cheapest version. At least it looks good spinning at full height from a distance through the (few) trees. I’m happy to see budget spent on well thought out theming. But the trade off was rather junky Zamperla rides. Zamperla needs to stick to kiddie rides IMO They couldn’t find enough in the budget to build shade structures. I think KI loves ti torture guests in the blazing sun. Many of the queues and most of the midways are bare.

I found the seats on Sol Spin very uncomfortable. I am 6’3 with 33 waist and the sides of the seats are more narrow than my hip bones and were crushing them. I don’t have wide hips. It’s actually the most uncomfortable seat I have experienced on a flat ride The restraints also don’t raise very high. I had to duck to get into them. The ride action itself is fine But I still prefer the freeness and comfort of a Huss Enterprise with no restraint

Thanks. Why can’t they just post that by the stage?

Retrospect is high quality. Especially the choreography. The choreographer knows how to feel music to the movements. They eliminated the live band It’s a soundtrack I would choose dancers over a band anyway since they are visual So there was a budget cut But honestly the sound track is powerful The show has an odd, non posted schedule It’s split into two different 15 min sets interspersed with a dj party. People cannot know when the show is happening unless they walk by Why does KI do thst? They do the same thing with the Nativity show at Winterfest The other parks have these same shows with posted show times

Kings Dominion has Retrospect but not starting until Carnivale. Let’s Get Wild but only twice each night. Not starting until mid month. It’s a decent show but they have it on the pavement. It’s awful for the performers and crowd. And a kiddie Peanuts show. Their theater (identical to KI) sits empty another year. The stadium sits empty. The new KD VP will run that place in the ground even further. She loves to cost cut at the expense of the customer. With nearby BG adding coasters, having a full entertainment lineup and having b transportation rides for non thrill seekers KD coaster collection is mediocre and not much to do for non thrill seekers. It’s a beautiful park, much more thank KI, but KI is run so much better.

Then the capacity will be awful for the majority of people.

If G & G fails, it’s 100% on the incompetence of KI food service. I have never had anything that I did not like at kings dominion’s version. I just don’t understand how Kings Islands food is the lowest quality in the chain. And the head chef got promoted….

It looks like from the videos this ride does not go completely vertical like an enterprise.

Cedar Fair sells cheap season passes. So they make their money by gouging in other ways. This definitely reduces the quality of the average customer experience but they don’t care of the low season pass price

Well both if the rides that KI got are inferior knock offs of superior rides (Intamin spinning barrels and Huss/Schwarzkopf enterprise). They are smaller lower capacity versions of those rides. Their Nebula is an inferior version of Zierer hexentanz (and slower loading as well.). Their Demolition Deby is an inferior cuddle up. Etc. I feel they add an air of cheapness to the parks. Then there was this with their Giant Discovery https://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/202106/8300/ Zamperla builds coasters Would one rather have one of their shaky coasters or one from B&M, Mack, Intamin etc If KI would install a Zamperla Thunderbolt in Vortex spot im sure people would think it would be three inferior choice They just don’t have the look of quality. I’m guessing the low price is getting them sales. Especially with Cedar Fairs 2.5 billion current debt load.

And Sol Spin is no Skylab. Small diameter, less capacity, restraints, solo ride. The park definitely needed flat rides Unfortunately they went with one of the lesser manufacturers. Cedar Fair is on a budget now with installations. it’s obvious with the 24 seat Endeavour instead of 48. I am glad though part of the budget is going towards theming. So much better than the Paramount days or even early Cedar Fair days (Diamondback’s station). I preferred what they did several years ago when they located used quality flat Carowinds got an excellent quartet of flats and great theming in their new County Fair. A Zierer wave swinger, Huss troika, Mondial top spin and Mack music express. All top tier manufacturers.

Cirque Imagine. Definitely. Great stunts timed out to the moving music. The rest of the cirque shows were on the level of PT.