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I don’t know why they just didn’t spend the money to build another bridge over the railroad tracks when they rerouted the queue. It would’ve paid for itself by now with the savings in labor cost of somebody watching that crossing. Plus, there’s much more needed jobs that need filled than that one.

The root of what’s stated above is Cedar Fairs current penny pinching, cost cutting mindset. They must be mimicking SEAS. I’m surprised (and thankful) that theming wasn’t a victim But they did offset that with cheap Zamperla junk This cost cutting is impacting the guest experience And will not increase attendance

The live entertainment is very weak. Nytewalkers plus the very worn out Monster Rock. No offense to the great talent in the show but that show has had the same playlist and high school choreography forever.

It’s only 12 nights but it’s the only 12 nights of the year with extended darkness for night rides. Summer season only has about an hour of night. Winterfest doesn’t have many rides

There’s nothing scary about any of the actors. They are people dressed up. The ones coming at you on the midway are annoying. Not scary. I agree with the original post. If people like being jumped at the better use for the employees is at the mazes. We all know that Haunt does not bring in a high quality crowd (the reason for no re-entry) . If they didn’t have these annoying actors jumping at people through the park, they might perhaps increase the quality of the crowd with people who don’t care for that stuff, but would like to go to the park for night rides. Cedar Point limits their midway actors to Frontiertown/Trail. The majority of the park midways are just normal night operations. This works great and seems to bring a better quality crowd as they allow re-entry.

I guess I was wrong! But my distrust for this company with their past lies made me pre dispositions to think this was a lie. However, who ever set up the webpage did not do a good job. You would think they would include free parking in the list of perks, not the disclaimer. Especially since parking wasn’t not previously included. but I do wonder since it’s included in the disclaimer if they’re able to take the free parking away at some point. They are selling a $290 platinum pass now for $199. and if you buy it from Canada’s Wonderland that’s in Canadian dollars so it’s really about $160-170 American

They have posted their 2020 for prices. They were lying. Goal pass right now is $99 parking is $85 and the upgrade is $100 that’s $284. That’s the pricing if a person buys their season, pass with the usual early purchase a discount. That’s only $6 dollars less than the platinum was during the prime 2023 season. Sure their advertising uses the wording “up to $65” but it’s just an outright lie. Cedar Fair loves to use sleazy disclaimers and such in their marketing. I have come to the come to the conclusion that this company is not run by honest people. And honest company does not Paul bait and switch. They do not advertise discounts that really don’t in reality. I know that my personal ethics would not allow me to work in the marketing department for this company.

Yes if it was a high quality, animatronic based ride like the original. But I fear it would be screen based with shooting like Knotts Beary Tales remake

Referring to Cedar Fair I’m general. Especially Carowinds and Kings Dominion. I have been burnt multiple times at those parks by ghost weather closures At today. KI. Crowded park. Racer running 1 side. Railroad with 3 cars. 1 train on AE.

What we are told from Cedar Fair employees cannot be trusted because they are told to lie from management. Cedar Fair management puts their employees in a bad position when they tell them to lie. Like when they close the park for low attendance, and mgmt tells employees to lie and say it is weather.

Don’t just look at the quarter look at the year to date numbers. They have decreased drastically from last year. Columns 3 and 4 It’s obvious Cedar Fair has no plan to actually increase attendance. Instead, they’re going to try to milk everything they can out of the current customers. Including all these budget cutting measures that take away from the customer experience. They’ve chased away, traveling customers from several parks with their policy of closing early if there’s low attendance. People are not going to spend money traveling to these parks if there’s any chance of rain when this is the policy. in doing this Cedar Fair is relying on perfect weather for attendance, which is a bad business plan. Now there’s the budget cuts, which translates to less operating hours, right time, live entertainment, and in general just in when it isn’t cleaned as much. This definitely isn’t going to increase attendance. And let’s not forget their bait and switch way of doing business Advertising fake online prices (processing fee not included) and taking away perks for upcharge memberships. In addition to the already false advertising of operating hours at some parks. That definitely does not drive attendance Cedar Fair is debt ridden and they do not have a good business plan to increase attendance with new customers. The customers that they do have they rely too much on cheap season passes and meal plans which don’t generate great profits. All of this cost cutting for short term profits will eventually bring down long term profits. Unfortunately , stock buybacks have destroyed companies in the past when the stock price plummeted after the buyback. This is absolutely possible with Cedar Fair given they are huge debt, and their lack of future growth possibilities with current policies.

Carowinds doesn’t get the attendance that KI does. Their attendance is usually light on weekdays and even Sundays

I noticed on busy Friday that the luster seems to be over for these low quality Zamperla rides. The barrels had no line and the endeavour line was about 2 rows in the queue. The older, quality flat rides (monster, troika, wave swinger, frisbee etc) had longer lines than these new rides.

Maybe you hit a lucky day. I have been there approximately 20 times over the last three years and seen it racing about five days out of those visits.

Do you think they’re going to reduce the price of their gold pass in 2024? If not the combination cost more than the current platinum pass! They would have to reduce the current prices by $85 to meet their $65 advertise discount!

Maybe you hit it in lucky days. I have been to KD over the past several years and it races maybe 25% of the days at best on my visits . Even one side on some Saturdays. They synced lift hills was great when they installed it but now one side always leaves the top a train ahead and there is never an actual race

Running one side of Racer in the name of penny pinching is ridiculous. There are a few racing roller coasters left in this world, and Kings Island has one of them and refuses (at times) to give the customers this unique experience. It’s an average coaster at best when one side runs. When it races, it’s a fun exciting, experience because of the competition and interaction with the other train and riders. Plus is a capacity hog that can give customers a coaster ride with little wait. Anytime customers wait less they are happier. They open the second side late and close it early even on busy days. Kings Dominion hardly races there’s at all anymore. Even some Saturdays. Chipping away at great experiences piece by piece adds up to a lesser experience. No, its not Six Flags……yet. They haven’t closed entire park sections for the year and there aren’t weeds growing instead of flowers.

CF has it all figured out. Attendance is down, so take away more to further drive down attendance they already love to chase away customers by cutting hours with no notice if attendance is low Genius. No wonder CF stock is falling. They have no business plan to bring in more customers. They are dependent on perfect weather for crowds. Cost cutting will bring short term profits, but will chase away long-term revenues.

It sounds like they’re going to be closing the park early a lot in the future. This is disgusting charging people for the option to refund. If a business can’t provide what they advertise (posted operating hours) then give refunds. Keeping people’s money without providing the advertise good or service is not a good way to generate future business. Cedar Fair really is low on ethics these days between this and all their bait and switch.

Canadas Wonderland already does not include parking with a gold pass. They currently advertise a platinum pass for C$290. It includes parking Gold there is C$135 plus C$75 for parking and then the C$100 all park upgrade That’s C$310 Then Canadas Wonderland has this bold lie in print on the Passport page there’s no savings of $65. It’s at least $20 more! Why does a Cedar Fair choose to do business in a shady way and use bait and switch? “With the introduction of the All Park Passport, the Platinum Pass will no longer be offered in 2024. But don’t worry—you can still get the same benefits with the purchase of a 2024 Gold pass with the All Park Passport. Plus, the combined price of a 2024 Gold Pass and All Park Passport is less than the price of a 2023 Platinum Pass, meaning you save up to $65†! ”

Cedar Fair is the king of bait and switch. They did it with the prestige pass this year, they do it with their operating hours when they close early and blame the weather even though it’s low attendance, they do it when they advertise a discounted ticket price and then tack on a processing fee, and now there’s this. they even have this sleazy disclaimer on their season pass page “Season Pass benefits subject to change without notice. Platinum and Prestige+ Passholder benefits may vary by park. Contact the park you are planning to visit for any questions regarding applicable benefits.” While they are advertising that the gold plus new upgrade is costing less than a current platinum pass, I don’t trust them with their bait and switch way of doing business. There’s going to be a catch. They are going to take something away and we will end up paying more. Maybe it’s the all park dining and drink plans for example…..

I believe the step back is caused by Cedar Fairs general cost cutting. Less quality ingredients. Etc. Also it’s pretty difficult to get good employees that can cook food correctly with Cedar Fairs policy of cutting employee hours without notice if attendance is low.

The one at Hershey was the best one ever. It was built in top of a hill, so it felt much higher than any others Condor is a great comfortable high capacity flat ride. It’s still manufactured by Huss. The superior (to Endeavour) Enterprise is also still manufactured. There is a version with alternating enclosed gondola (no restraint) and open side by side seating. It’s a shame Sol Spin isn’t one of those.

The problem with moving hips forward while riding this ride is that one’s spine will now be curved instead of straight up or down against the seat back. This ride applies some good G forces and it is not a good idea to absorb G forces with ones back curved. this ride is just poorly designed. I would guess that the gryphon at kennywood has the same type of seating.

Carowinds is the leader of Cedar Fair bait and switch. This isn’t surprising