Outdoor Man

Friendly. What planet are you on? They, unfortunately, had a GM since 2014 that was decent fiscally but a PR nightmare which everyone but ownership observed. Middle management staff was largely a revolving door. It could have been much better than it turned out.

Here's hoping that the Eiffel Tree star is bright enough to be seen beyond the parking lot. And, the lighting program for the tree is less "busy".

have Hulu??? = Watch anytime.

Something will take the place of Vortex eventually, if not sooner. The space is too visible to leave empty for too long. I do hope though that they put some "creativity" into the replacement. Orion seems like a really tall/fast coaster with no character. Simple elements to make it unique- go underground through a tunnel, fog tunnel, slip in a loop- something creative. On the surface it just seems like a taller version of Diamondback. Like a refresh of a model year for a vehicle... its updated, but it's still a (name your vehicle). I like the focus on "experience" over thrills. Thrills fade over time. But immersion into an experience keeps a line for an attraction longer. ie- if Tomb Raider was still there operating in its original format- it would still have lines. As an generic indoor topspin... it had 10 minute waits. Gone are the days of 150 minute waits for Diamondback; and soon, so will the 20 minute waits. Then as time goes on, the 2 hour waits for Orion will be replaced as a newer, taller version with more zing and more pep is built.

maybe someone mentioned (didn't look through posts)- note the use of words: Not a "thanks, but no thanks" but used terms like "inadequate" - and Cedar Fair responded that Six Flags’ bid was too low, (Reuters) Something tells me this isn't over yet.

Actually, if not mistaken, the park has mentioned "final" rides. If it is more of a maintenance/cost issue to open next year than timing- it could theoretically be SBNO for a season (2020). SOB was SBNO for almost three seasons while "next" was created/finalized. The original Bat (in that plot) was SBNO for at least two seasons. If nothing is going in there until 2022... I could see it SBNO for 2020 and construction zone for 2021. Just saying I've seen the word retired... not demolished. And you don't just spend millions of $ to refurbish a steel coaster like you would a wooden coaster.

My guess is that its removal times out with something that will be coming for the 50th anniversary. that said I have two observations. if not mistaken, and someone correct me. The original press release time-stamps were like 4:30am. is that curious to anyone? Most of the news releases mention "retiring the coaster" I haven't seen much of the term "remove"- though I'm pretty certain that's implied I haven't seen the term "demolish" in any of the articles I've read Just two observations I've seen.

Isn't 2022 the 50th Anniversary? The "plot" is too large, visible, and "prime" to leave empty long term. When the (original) Bat was built, it spent 18-months in design, 2 years constructing. It closed after the 1983 operating season but did not come down until after the 1985 season. Empty lot for 1986- Vortex for 1987. My guess is new attraction for 2022 to book-end a remodeled Coney Mall in time for the 50th anniversary.

also, isn't there a certain 50-year anniversary coming up in 2022? May have to put up with an empty lot for a couple seasons but if I were a betting person, I'd guess that they knew exactly what's going there and may use Summer 2020 as a "tease" season + 2021 as a development period to tweak a lot of interest. Anyone with half a brain knew by late 2011 that Son of Beast was returning to the earth, but it wasn't until August 2012 that it really became apparent and mid-2013 before "next" began to take shape. The corpse of SoB was destined to remain where it was until "next" was finalized. Building coasters, from initial call to first rider, is probably a 4 year process, especially a custom-build. My guess is that the contract for Orion became official in Orlando circa November 2017. What will eventually replace Vortex sans 2022 may have likely had it's genesis in 2018. My only question is- what becomes of the "haunted house" other than a *** NEW *** Haunt attraction?

technically accurate though- it has given rides to more than 45 guests.

yes. yes. and yes. If you get much past the parking lot you can't see the star at all. Though, I saw the same rod/hook on top of the tower yesterday, so it will likely not happen. Also, FoF is likely closed so the area can be revamped.

It's been a while since I've visited Coney- but if not mistaken (and correct me)- but the pool admission was separate from rides anyway wasn't it? I could be wrong but I dont' recall it being one price for all. If so, why would Coney need to reduce the price of admission to the pool?

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I remember riding Vortex back in the day and they would release the train out of the station and check the over-the-shoulder harnesses as the train rolled by. Safety first.

should be easy for the guys side... if you can't aim... don't use the toilet to urinate. There are usually twice as many urinals to toilets. If you can't aim for the large porcelain "wall" in front of you and proceed to dribble on the floor... you may need to see a doctor about that. If you must stand and urinate in a toilet and "miss"... mop up after yourself Don't throw a bunch of things into the toilet to clog it because it's "funny"... no one is laughing. FLUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't work for KI, but If I come in and witness someone not abiding by my 5 simple rules above- I will CALL YOU OUT very audibly and very publically.

The tickets for the convention floor, as I recall is instantaneous and you'd receive a confirmation number. Unless they haven't set up the ticketing yet. The early bird tickets end in September, if not mistaken. Maybe it'll take until around then.

Working on project currently to address that question.

been there the last four years. VERY overwhelming experience. If you were to walk every inch of every aisle without stopping you wouldn't be able to do it all in one day and that's not much of an exaggeration. A certain BoddaH1994 and I have been there each of the last few years beating a particular drum... that has attracted the attention of a certain rodent.

was at one of the first weekends of Winterfest when a pretty intense storm came through... it was nailed that night- and LOUD.

I've led (and managed from afar) "giveaway" promotions in the past. There is just something about a goodwill gesture that causes people to instantly morph the situation into an entitlement and demand free stuff. It's embarrassing.

ahem... 2012. I know because... well, I know.

Was in the back of the park for the finale; but if not mistaken, not all the I-Street lights were working. Saw the full light show on Friday or Saturday (at least I think it was...) and it is really good. They seem to be having some consistency issues on the effects though.

Wow. Tough crowd. Except in rare instances, 40 years of management have had the over hype-under deliver moniker placed on them. See: Italian Job Stunt Coaster, Adventure Express, etc... for examples. I think the entrance is a remarkable upgrade. Yeah, I like the pedestals too.... but the new look is a nice upgrade. The whole entrance is an upgrade from the overgrown trees that lined it for years- which, by the way, hid the trusses. Also, i think the pedestals are "bye-bye"... they may have kept one or parts of one to make a cameo appearance at Haunt though.

maybe this one won't crash a server....

Yeah, I was going to be one of those waiting in the AM for the gates to open- but then I remembered I had other things to do. Actually, that's a lie- I had no intentions.