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The Flying Eagles from Carowinds. It can be placed in the empty grass area where it used to live before they put nothing there instead.

They would be wise to use that area for a new FF attraction. The 10 mile walk to Top Gun might be useful if something else were nearby. Also, the club blood thread can be found in google's cache if you really want it.

I would expect all of the Paramount parks to get new logos within another year or two. All their websites are exactly the same template, while the other CF parks have all different layouts. I would imagine new logos would be done for the sites, as well as use in the parks.

I wouldn't say the pass program at CP is all efficient. They have been struggling for years about what to do with parking passes. Ranging from a mark on the pass, to window decals, to number of eligible vehicles, etc. With the acquisition of the Paramount Parks, the Cedar Fair chain is much closer together than ever before. That means, they are dealing with lots more passes being used at non-home parks. I think the Joe Cool thing is related to this. I highly doubt that the admission staff knows all the nuances with non-home park passes. It wouldn't surprise if they would let someone in early for Joe Cool if they explained that they were from a different park. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that's the way it is. Heck, I've gotten into CP early with a regular ticket just because I was at the Magnum gate when all the resort guests in! CP has a lot more gates to enter the park (4 at last check), which means there are probably better chances that non-legit passes will be able to get in for Joe Cool even though they shouldn't. Things are bound to get better though I would imagine. Parking may take a while longer to really be improved, since I know of no park that has really found a "good" way of doing it.

1 hour waits for Mean Streak? Something is seriously outta whack if that happens. Was it just the rain or was it REALLY crowded too. Also, 2 hours for Maverick is a lot.

What is it about ride ops (especially coasters) at KI? I went to CP recently after a KI trip and it was like night and day. Almost like KI had to beg people to run their rides, while CP filled more than half the spots without asking. Don't people realize they could be sweeping trash or cleaning bathrooms all day instead of pushing buttons or checking restraints? I just don't get it. Running a coaster is one of the coolest jobs you can have at the park. Why are there no positive attitudes, hard workers, or overall crews who are proud to do what they do?

Mikey, I'm sure there are plenty of people who agree with you on parts of your original post. But this is a King's Island fansite, the main visitors to this board are folks who love King's Island. You can't expect a triumphant welcome if your first post is completely negative. What about the park do you like? How long have you been going to the park? Have you been to other parks before? What inspired you to join this forum? Was is just because you had a bad day and wanted to let people know about it? Or because you wanted to discuss the details of King's Island and how it could be improved?

I heard they were going to leave the Eiffel Tower in place and put TTD's tophat over the top of it. Some sort of expensive architecture will be used to utilize the Eiffel Tower as a support.

So, let's see...it was down for about a month total, correct?

I agree. It seemed to me that for looping rides, the policy was not loose articles that were not attached to you in some way. Other rides were a bit more lenient, although most new rides don't allow anything either. Maybe they haven't had time to revise the policy for the new SOB? I can't imagine another reason they would be so flipped out over what to do with the loose articles.

What a shame about side B. Location certainly doesn't help the theatre attract more riders. I know that there are loads of movies for these things out there though, especially since theatres like this are popular in Europe. I can't imagine it would be that hard to acquire some.

Heh, we only get a dive coaster if Anheuser Busch steps up and buys the parks.

I think 10 minutes. Atleast, it used to be.

I think we overstate the importance of the ride. It's been around for 6 years now. It's hardly new. Of course, I have no numbers for its ridership, but I'd be very surprised if it broke the top 10 for the park. A drop in the priority chain of reasons to keep it looking great instead of just average. People have mentioned Disaster Transport at Cedar Point. The comparison is striking. Years ago, the theming on DT fell into disrepair. Slowly, it was removed. First the queue effects, then some of the ride effects, then it was all dark, then they added some fluorescent paint, etc. Why did CP not invest more money into the ride? Because it ceased to be a thrill ride. People were no longer riding DT for excitement (some might argue they never did!). Instead, it's gimmicks are: an indoor coaster with an air-conditioned queue that you only need to be 46" tall to ride. That means people ride it to get out of the heat for a bit, for something different (indoors), and lots of kids ride because it is tame and they are tall enough. Not sufficient reasons for CP to make a major investment! Just keeping it running is enough to satify all 3 of those marketing reasons. Looking at TR:TR, it is a unique dark ride that hangs you upside down. That is what the public sees. Soon, I think people who want to get out of the sun for minute or hang upside down will be the majority crowd which ride it, similar to DT. If the ride has thus lost its marketing appeal, KI will not put major funding into an "attempt" to restore it. Instead they will build something else new. I'm not trying to be negative. I want to see the return of TR:TR like all of you. This is just how I see the cards being dealt at the moment.

I'd say a flat, if anything. Maybe a kiddie flat? I'd maybe guess a new coaster for '09. You all are probably right in guessing the changes during the offseason. I can see TR:TR being "simplified" rather than made over though.

That's good to hear. If any ride should open early for ERT, it should be Firehawk.

Absolutely reliable is really funny. It is truly sarcasm at its best.

The new additions since 2001 are: Tomb Raider (not worth riding anymore, has fallen into disrepair) *Delerium (really fun big spinning ride, not too nauseous though) *Scooby-Doo Dark Ride (indoor ride with gun zappers, might be fun, beware long lines) Sponge-Bob 3-D Movie (moving chairs movie, so-so) Boomerang Bay (new waterpark, probably don't have time) *Italian Job (unique family coaster with some special effects, fun) Nick Universe (big area for kids, N/A except for Avatar ride) *Firehawk (flying coaster, somewhat intense) No single rider lines unfortunately. However, some rides (especially Firehawk) do a good job of asking for single riders to fill in empty seats.

Honestly though, think of what the general public sees, instead of what we enthusiasts see. Those are the features which they will upkeep. That means I would expect the lava to shoot up, the lighting to work on both the lava and ice, some of the main goddess lighting to work, and some music to play (w/o voice over). I would expect the house lights coming on during the ride to be a temp. problem. Other than that, kiss it goodbye. The pre-show, the fog, extra lighting on the goddess, dripping ice, etc. Also remember that the ride has always had balancing issues, so don't expect it to be fully loaded, ever. If they could simplify the ride cycle easily, they would/will. And that's about it. Have fun riding GP, I'll be on something else. Heck, when I was there just a week ago, foliage was almost covering up the bottom half of the sign. Let's just forget it's even there...

A lot. Not as much as a brand new ride, but a lot. You have the cost of taking it apart, the cost of transporting it, land clearing costs, rebuilding costs, assembly cost, paint costs, etc. It was a good deal for KI for what they got. Dominator isn't going anywhere though. It's easily the best and most popular ride at GL. Plus, it's built partially over the lake, making it a hassle to take out. It's also a lot bigger than X-flight, I mean Firehawk. No, I wouldn't expect any other rides to leave GL unless something drastic happens. Well, maybe they could just tear down Wolf Kabobs.

This was quoted by someone I know on 6/25. Maybe they have continued to have problems?

There is also a much better waterpark now.

Nice TR. 7 rides in 3.5 hours is a pretty good haul.

If you read this thread it covers most of what is known about KC's location.

Hopefully this week. I'm hoping it has something to do with the good relationship with Don Helbig, but I could be wrong. It may not be of direct relation to the park itself. If not, it could be some sort of web merger, but I'm not sure what the details of something like that would be. I wouldn't expect to see a merge with another KI site or anything.