Beast1979

^Don't kid yourself, Firehawk. It's a Cedar Fair park, there's trash bins every 5 feet. It's VERY clean. It's spiffy, there's lots of diversity in rides, there's sit down restaurants, on site hotels, campgrounds, a beautiful location, it's still one of the best parks in the world. And attendance has gone down, at a lot of parks. It's not the park itself, however, supposedly it's the economy.

Listen, Cedar Point, we need to have a talk. I know you guys are doing great. That's wonderful, I'm happy for you. But we have to talk about your addiction. Don't look at me like you don't know what I'm talking about, you know darn well what it is. You're on Inta-Crack. It's an Intamin addiction. Don't worry, I won't tell anyone. The problem is though, Cedar, that it's a bad thing to do. You know it's hurting you but you do it anyway! Top Thrill Dragster opening late, Maverick opening late, Shoot the Rapids opening late, the recent Millennium Force cable snap, Wicked Twister's back spike replacement, you know it's wrong, but why do you it? For some cheap thrill? We need to get you off this. Don't worry, I'm not calling cold turkey. Maybe, instead of every attraction, it can be every other attraction, then every third attraction, we can slowly break your addiction to this harmful manufacturer. There's other ways to get high, you know, without Inta-Crack. Have you tried B&M? It's a safe, mellow, reliable alternative. And it won't drive you broke with the constant costs. I'm here to help, Cedar Point. Together, we can get over this!

And the park is still better than Kings Island IMO...

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Sigh. Post #45, just 4 before yours.

A little underwhelming, but an improvement none the less.

Adventure Express has more negative G's? Pardon me, but isn't Drop Tower just negative G's throughout the entire ride?

At one point, Kentucky Kingdom had: Chang Greezed Lightnin' Twisted Twins Road Runner Express Thunder Run Sucky coasters, indeed. I really hope they get it re-opened. The park has lots of potential, and I liked it, if out of nothing more than pity. I dunno, it seems like a fun little park, and the city needs it.

So they can paint every single ride in Planet Snoopy, and paint Vortex which doesn't even need it, but they can't invest in Flight Deck, or Racer? That's Ok Kings Island, I still love you.

The top picture is Dueling Dragons. Sticking to that comparison: VS: I still like Dueling Dragons better.

VS: Cedar Fair's theming is minimalist at best.

I can honestly say that Universal Studios Florida is my favorite Amusement / Theme Park ever. It pays INCREDIBLE attention to detail and at the same time does not sacrifice thrills for it. Why couldn't 1972 Kings Island do the same in 2010? I honestly think they could have added Diamondback and still managed to keep Rivertown in spot on condition. It could have survived, it's not hard to have the best of both worlds. Seeing pictures from the park's opening day in 1972, I think a park like that would be a refreshing experience for the "Dressed up Carnival" culture of today.

2010! Woo Hoo!

I got 2,010.

The ride flippin collapsed during construction. Engineering Marvel? Don't kid yourself. Megastructure? That it deserves.

They still have 2005 License Plates.

Honestly anything is an improvment. And, did we really need those huge Kings Island decals across the front? Really... I know it doesn't show it well, but the decals aren't that huge. Plus it's kinda customary that trains have the park name on the front.

Since when has Kings Island's Eiffel Tower been 313-feet? It's said right here (http://KICentral.com/attractions/familyrides.php) and here (http://www.KICentral.com/photos/index.php?cat=12) it's 314-feet, while the official Kings Island website says it's 331.5-feet.

Universal's Kings Island would have thrill, theme and more. *sighs and daydreams*.....

People are posting rational and logical posts and some people are letting their opinions on the ride get in the way. That's about the gist of it.

You guys.....at this point I'm neutral on Son of Beast. If it's torn down, great, room for more rides. If they (try to) fix it, great, a new experience, it could be good. I really couldn't care less. And you know? Shaggy's got a point. He always does. Comparing a coaster to a car is nothing more then an analogy. FF EKU Dawg 4life, you're trying desperately to make apples and oranges out of it, but in reality they both convey people, need to be insured, are sold to people (Yes, a coaster is sold to someone, they pay for admission to ride it) can be more or less safe then others of it's kind, and need maintenance and are investments. Saying that a car needs a driver and therefore it's different means nothing when you're talking about the car itself. Take the Toyota mess over the last few months. A malfunction in the car causes it to not function properly, resulting in injury and possible death. The same is possible for a roller coaster, the driver had no influence on the end result of the numerous Toyota incidents. And now the manufacturer has to consider whether to fix the problems (Lots of $$$), then market it back to people (Good luck!), and still hope to make a profit, or take the faulty cars off the market permanently. On that scale, it's no different then an amusement park trying to re brand a ride with a dirty history. DropZone99, I took you for more intelligence then to fall back onto the wait time length argument. Here, let me say what has been said on here for years: LINE LENGTH MEANS NOTHING. You're making wide generalizations about the popularity of the ride by saying 'People at my school love it!' and 'My mom loves it, it's smoother then Beast!', then smashing Shaggy (Who, no offense, probably has much more information and is much more knowledgeable on the subject) for making a rough claim on it's popularity. I can do the same thing by saying 'I rode it in 2008, and I heard tons of people getting off who warned people in line not to ride it, they said it's awful!' And it would be just as accurate as your description. The truth is, Son of Beast not being open this year probably won't have any effect on park attendance or satisfaction. With 14 other roller coasters (And rides like Beast, Racer, etc who've reached a mainstay status at the park), a new kiddie area, and a probably even better Halloween Haunt coming up in October, the idea of One Ride which has been open and closed throughout it's history, has had mixed reviews and infamous accidents, being closed for the year doesn't make a difference. To put it simply: The General Public Does. Not. Care. I'm certain a lot of these factors have been taken into consideration by park officials over the last, what is it, nearly a year now? They've taken into account all the sunk cost (Yes, it's gone, but those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Learn from mistakes), the fact that it'd be a tough marketing ploy to get back to (The Son of Beast name at this point probably has no value anymore, it's already instantly associated with the issues of the last decade), the cost of a future repair and it's effectiveness (At this point, I think we've seen a simple retracking simply doesn't work), and how long a repair would last, among others. Now, who are we to say what's the right idea or not? We have no knowledge of the park's budget, it's 5 year plan (Which I doubt featured closing Son of Beast, but again, don't know), how much it would cost to go either way, and what effect it would have on park experience and, most importantly of all, ticket sales and in park spending. We simply don't know, so why should we be the ones petitioning to 'Burn it Down!' (Which is getting very old) or 'Save it!' (Which is sounding very desperate) when we are unaware of how truly little we know. We make up less than 1% of the park's guests, mind you. While we like to think we're important, in reality, our opinion on any ride's future is not exactly a crushing issue.

So standbyme, what complaints do you have with Planet Snoopy at the moment? Considering you've been to the park, seen it in person for yourself, etc. Because when I went, the area looked better paint wise, the ride signs were all better, Boo Blasters was better, not to mention the kids absolutely loved it.

The Faded version of Planet Snoopy will still look better then the faded version of Nick.

With the wind, apparently. It might as well have never been there.

Kiss it goodbye.