silver2005

CoasterForce uses body mounted cameras for their recent POV's and they're pretty good.

I'd have concerns on the train height on some areas regarding clearance, Mack trains are on the tall side. FOF has the launch tunnel and supports pretty close to the track, especially late in the layout.

Gerstlauer might be a good choice for new FOF trains.

IF we must keep Backlot, I wouldn't mind it in white with black supports. Maybe get a striped multi- color look a la TTD.

I pose the questions again- what do you who are against it think of the parks that do allow it? Would you patronize them? If KI suddenly allowed them, would you patronize KI? If its shown that it can be implemented safely, would you reconsider? I'm genuinely curious. The link I posted to BGTB's FAQ had a pretty reasonable way to accommodate POV's to me. Parks, to me, aren't that against them or else they'd go to YouTube to scrub them all, and yet, there are dozens of POV's of practically every coaster and people still watch, even the low quality ones.

If it were as simple as the park's POV being of higher quality, then why are people still willing to film them? There's something more to this than what you guys are assuming. I feel this shouldn't devolve into 'just because KI doesn't allow it we should stop talking about it'.

https://buschgardens.com/tampa/faq/ 7th question down. I am pretty okay with BGTB's procedure regarding self mounted cameras and it seems it wouldn't be hard to implement at other parks who might have a change of heart. As long as the park has a standardized procedure for allowing this to be done safely, I'm a-okay with people taking POV's themselves. I'll possibly see it in practice as I'm going to BGW this summer.

I think I have a day by day itinerary for both now. The VA/PA was a little tough to come up with, but I think I got an optimal way planned. Trip 1- Saturday- Leave for Muskegon, possible MIA, visit Lake Michigan and certain spots in Muskegon, Sunday- MIA (if doing a 2nd day, do waterpark), Monday- Muskegon to Pt Clinton, relax on Lake Erie, Tuesday and Wednesday- CP, Thursday- Waldameer (possibly waterpark), come home Friday Trip 2- Friday- Leave for Williamsburg, explore downtown, Saturday- Virginia Beach, Sunday- KD, Monday- BGW, Tuesday- Williamsburg to Allentown, blitz DP, Wed- HP, Thur- Knoebels, Fri- Longwood, come home Saturday I will be using FLP both days I'm at CP and Quick Queue for BGW. I don't think I'll need anything like that for KD, DP or MIA. I have some contingencies ready in case weather is an issue for either trip.

I feel that the parks allowing personal POVs create an opening of discussion and perhaps an opportunity for parks that don't. It's not completely about just having the POV, having reaction footage is something people want to have and watch. I know KI can't, but I feel there's gray area to explore, too. For those adamantly against self POVs, what are your thoughts on the parks that allow it? Would you still patronize them? If they show over time they can make it work safely, would you reconsider? What if KI chose to allow it if given the right circumstances?

So basically I'm waiting for my next paycheck to get in, then figuring out how to place the VA/PA trip so I get BGW and HP on optimal days, and then I book it.

I have a few slight logistics questions- 1. CP- better on a Tuesday or Thursday? 2. How's MIA on a Saturday? 3. BGW- Monday or Tuesday? 4. How's KD on a Sunday?

So the PA/VA portion of my summer isn't as bad on the budget as I initially thought, so I am officially adding MIA and staying a night in Muskegon for the northern Ohio/Michigan/Waldameer trip.

I'm already doing 5 parks on this trip (and will be doing 9 overall if you include KI), I think I'll have my fill with that. I'm also pretty content sticking with what I'm planning.

Disregard this post.

Just found HP is doing some sort of sale where they're knocking ~40% off ticket sales for the whole season including multiday passes. Woot! Lasts until March 31st if anyone else is doing a HP venture this summer. Also looking up hotels, finding nice selections in my price range for Williamsburg and I'm going to stay close to where I stayed for my last PA trip near Allentown/Lehigh/Bethlehem, just not in the hotel I dubbed the Snyder Hotel which is by the airport due to many unneeded shenanigans (BUT there's an AWESOME diner close to where I stayed and other good choices for breakfast). The early itinerary looks like this- Day 1- Travel to VA, explore downtown Williamsburg Day 2- KD Day 3- BGW Day 4- Virginia Beach Day 5- Travel to PA early, DP Day 6/7- HP and Knoebels Day 8- Longwood Gardens near Philly thanks to tips from malem and pianoman This trip is likely happening mid-July in hopes Grizzly will be open at KD. I'll also be doing a CP trip with Waldameer and possibly MIA added. Also expect to see a KK day trip shoehorned in here. Assuming everything will be open on my visits, I'll reach 150 coasters ridden, which will occur at HP so it'll be between RMC Wildcat and Candymonium.

The more I read about how bad SIX parks have gotten under the new management, the more I feel like I've dodged a bullet dropping SFA from my trip. And even though I'll be in the area, I'm not even considering SFGAdv either.

I think KI could use another good burger place outside of Juke Box.

I think the Surf coaster is a misstep. Stand ups died off for a reason, and the ones already running have their lines die off quickly. I'm not sure they will take off again unless B&M found a way to make them significantly more comfortable. EDIT: I finally saw the trains in pictures, the vest restraints should help, but bicycle seats + stand up + positive G's = mass discomfort. Also, I've had my fare share of bus rides where I was forced to ride standing up, and I will say that wasn't very ideal, so the thought of doing a launched stand up coaster sounds like a bad idea. High speeds and larger elements also contribute to higher positive G's which is what you don't want a lot of on a stand up. At parks with stand ups, I always ride them early as if I ride them later, my legs really don't like it after walking around a lot. The layout at Sea World has an inversion, a horseshoe, and several helices, curves and s-bends. Also, all stand ups by default don't have the best capacity due to having to manually adjust each seat to each rider. I remember Mantis and Green Lantern at NJFTP having pretty slow dispatch times and constantly stacking all the trains and having 28-32 seats to adjust and check.

Doesn't BGW have a clause with B&M that they can't build a new coaster at KD? (Dominator got around it as it was a relocation if I have things straight)

Won't be there for the event, but may stop by for funzies.

There is footage somewhere that shows full size test cars at the Utah plant going through a corkscrew and it'll give you whiplash watching it fling the swinging cars over the top.

Uhhh....Coney Island and Skyline coneys have next to nothing in common sans being named the same. Same names do not equate to theming as much as you guys want to overthink it. Pssst....they're keeping 2 Skylines in the main park. I imagine part of the deal between the park and Skyline/LaRosa's is a sales quota that may require multiple locations.

^Not everyone wants to leave the park.

I think the video I posted was them making it for the history with the 50th anniversary last year.

It was also supposed to be yellow track instead of black according to the teaser footage.