Well said. I enjoy violent woodies too. Timber Wolf (Worlds of Fun) leaves me with huge bruises, but I still love it because of the amazing laterals, lack of trims, and great airtime. Rough would be Son of Beast. And Timber Wolf pre-2008. Timber Wolf was mostly retracked, and it's still rough, but it doesn't leave me in pain. Son of Beast does. I can still feel the effects of Son of Beast 5 months later. It's like a 200 foot tall liability...