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and to be honest on vacation how many people want to bowl, while at Disney. Its like saying Im going to the movie theater. Not saying no one wants to bowl on vacation, but if its not unique, then the dollars are hard to spend

so virtually you are saying, that having the ride SBNO which is in effect costing money and adding almost no positives to the park, is better than demoing it or reopening it. interesting to hear it put that way

and i see this becoming a thing of "1 unit for every 2 guests." Which means that if you have a group of 4 or 6 you will need 2 or 3 units.

the smartphone virtual Q seems like a great idea, but parks will not go for it. If you can get an extra 5 bucks per party to rent a unit, why would they give it away for free?

and theres the rub my friend. Former GMs, presidents, CEOs can say what they want, but the future of the company is in different hands with different goals. Does the goal include SOB? Someone knows. But I dont think they are saying just yet.

what does Cedar Fair/KI management say?

Terp, that is what I try to tell me students, but they look at me like I am the old guy (at 26).

I asked the mrs. and she told me it was E R. I should just Google things when I'm in doubt. Now, I have to eat crow! It is all good! As the high school students in my classroom say, "its only on the internet, who cares."

hank, grammar has an ar

Listen, I am on here reading, almost daily. I may not post very often but I am noticing many things about KIC. There are many posters taking "shots" at other members. Why is there so much vitriol being thrown around on here. If a person is putting their opinion out, others shouldnt shout them down. Being civil is a good thing people. If a person asks multiple questions about a certain ride that you think are stupid, so what. If you dont like the question, you dont have to tell the person they are dumb. Just dont answer the question... Try and be civil. Please? If this is the wrong location please feel free to move it if you need to. Edited to fix the spelling and added commas......

great stuff thank you for doing this. I think most of my internal votes go to 1970s era...

Thanks for posting this link. I just signed up. I hope to win, just because I want the models of the roller coasters, looks good on a train table

I have not been on here in a long while. Not only did I use of my quota of "likes" on your photos, you have managed to get me to sit here for almost 2 hours reading and looking at this topic... i love the photos well done... and I miss those cars

it may be hard to enforce but if he does something to break the rules (in the future) and gets caught. They would take his name, find he was banned, then they can charge him with trespassing.

I dont see a negative here... I hate to say it but they brought onto themselves. In the list of people who were banned it seemed like it was their "second" strike.... and to the guy who reentered on his motorcycle... seriously? he shouldnt be upset with the park but with himself...

Match 1 The Beast(11) vs. Wicked Twister(5) Match 2 Firehawk(10) vs. Adventure Express(9) Match 3 Invertigo(1) vs. Top Thrill Dragster(11) Match 4 Flying Ace Aerial Chase(0) vs. Maverick(12) Match 5 Son of Beast(1) vs. Diamondback(12) Match 6 Wildcat(8) vs. Iron Dragon(10) Match 7 Mantis(5) vs. Vortex(11) Match 8 Surf Dog(1) vs. Blue Streak(12) Match 9 Woodstock Express CP(1) vs. Flight Deck(12) Match 10 Woodstock Express KI(8) vs. Mean Streak(10) Match 11 The Racer(12) vs. Corkscrew(2) Match 12 Flight of Fear(13) vs. Great Pumpkin Coaster(0) Match 13 Millennium Force(12) vs. Backlot Stunt Coaster(1) Match 14 Gemini(12) vs. Junior Gemini(1) Match 15 Magnum XL-200(12) vs. Disaster Transport(2) Match 16 Cedar Creek Mine Ride(1) vs. Raptor(12) Looks like round one has ended?

this could/should be awesome

I doubt that Cedar Fair would allow a structure to deteriorate to the point of collapse. So odds are we will not see what is happening to the eagle happen to SOB, unless its man made of course

I have been guilty of filling up an old cup. Its more tradition/memories, so I know it has been done. Higher refill price for old cups? creating a perk for new cup buys? and there you have found the way to make it both appealing to the "frugal" (I am not paying 6.99 for a new cup I have my old Flight of Fear cup) and the person who will buy a new cup (I want the WindSeeker cup...) Ill just be over here drinking from my Flight of Fear cup asking for a new straw because it broke......

depends on what your company is built upon. If you are a company that is about the customer first then banning previous year cups would create a minor up-roar. By letting customers use previous years cups you are just showing them that they are allowed to have a great experience at your park. Banning cups just creates bad juju. Making employees happy is always hard to do and expensive, but usually its a great investment to help your park out in the long run. But then again perks dont always have to be expensive, a simple thanks, or a free pop can always go a long way when you are dealing with employees, and like you said, happiness tends to rub off on guests.

bolded, underlined, and italicized. If you are to make an experience a once a year type of experience then by all means take away the season pass. goes back to the article you posted the other day about disney. if you make a park a destination people will go and spend the money, no matter the price (almost). An amuzement park without rollercoasters is a parking lot with popcorn, a theme park without rollercoasters is still a theme park. (I paraphrased a bit from Mr. Disney)

I think you would lose some crossover from park to park. A family who is having a hard time justifying a family vacation & a trip to KI, may find it easier to buy a season pass and do both, but create the family trip around another park. Then again if you eliminate season passes, you would WANT to lower gate prices to entice frequent visitors. People may pay 35-40 bucks for 1-2, maybe 3 visits, but it gets pricey. 70-120 for a season pass and you can go as many times as you want for as little as you want sounds/is better.

Its a math problem, in all reality. for every dollar it rises you lose a certain % point of your revenue. So just for fun lets say, you make the same amount of money (on admission) from a $20 ticket and a $50 ticket. Lets say you make 1 million dollars, well at 20 bucks a ticket you will have 50thousand guests, at 50 bucks a ticket you only have 20 thousand tickets. its all a balance. Some believe that if you lower your ticket prices you will entice more people who may not normally come, but why lower it to make the same amount you do with a high priced ticket..... some say the more bodies in the park the more money you make because its more people buying other goods (food, merch, etc) but if you have less people in the park you do not need to hire as many people (cleaning staff, food vendors, line ops, etc) or buy as much stuff (food, merch etc) which lowers your bottom line. A park is just like any business. It takes a person who is both able to see the bottom line and see what the people want/need. If you price something so high it turns a need into a want, a want into a maybe, and a maybe into a no. Where does 51.99 push the average family? for my family? it pushes KI from a want to a maybe/no.

" “Most of Mr. Disney’s proposed park produces no revenue but it will be expensive to build and maintain,” said the focus group. “Things like the castle and pirate ship are cute but they aren’t rides so there is no economic reason to build them. There is too much wasteful landscaping.” They also found other examples of waste. Spaces like Town Square with its little park, City Hall, and a fire station were not designed to make any money. That was a poor use of real estate and did not add to the bottom line. Even the Main Street vehicles like the horse trolley, fire truck, and omnibus would be money-losers because they also suffered from a capacity issue." If only other parks saw/see what disney sees in the little extras.... reminds me the way a certain park once looked/felt

I believe the quote is this is an investment for the long term. So maybe Dinosaurs Alive is a short term thing (Star Trek thing KI did before). But could it be that the 5 dollar upcharge and the paving and creation of a new areas (in the pictures it looks like they will be paving a nice big walk way) coudl lead to future park expansion?