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agreed, i couldnt care less what the trains look like if my options were "sponsored rides or closed park"

i think one of the nicer things about this park is its free for people with special needs, and only 5 bucks for people accompanying anyone who is special needs.... what an awesome little park....

what a very awesome idea. Learning about children with special needs, its a very touching sentiment and an awesome idea. Parks like KI are "wheel chair accessible" but sometimes we forget how some of the wheel chair bound can not enjoy a ride as simple as the eagles or even the kiddie rides. Wow just a great park idea. I hope it does great.

i read that and was like what the........ so the two parks that were for sale last year.... Geuaga lake? and the other one?

thats probably why. they want the numbers to jump at the home park..... maybe im just paranoid, but I wouldnt be keeping it real with out at least wondering what the motives are behind the advancement into Indiana for one park in particular....

if they truly are trying to expand CPs marketability while decreasing KIs I do not see good things coming from this at all. Mark my words, but if it comes down to having to sell off some parks I see KI being the first to go but we may be losing somethings..... maybe Im just pessimistic....

this question is loaded for one side to win this argument and the other to lose horribly. You (people, most of you) are assuming that KI would open today (2010) with the same tech., rides, and other features that existed in 1972, while competing against other parks with new great tech. Lets be real here. First if the park was to open today it would not open with just The Racer, it would open with a ride similar to Diamondback. So to say the park from 1972 in its entirety to be opened in 1972 is not a fair question at all. Thats like saying would Cedar Point of 1912 survive today? Would DisneyLand of 1955 survive today. Of course any of these parks (including KI) would survive if the tech is allowed to be of todays fair. So with that being said, a more fair question would be "Would the business tasks and attitudes that opened the park in 1972 be profitable and would the park thrive in 2010?" As goodyellowKorn has pointed out the answer would be a resounding yes. So a KI that had a few rides, but was well maintained, worked towards creating a family fun environment, and had great customer service would become a wonderful park, similar to a Busch Gardens. But would a park that has a hannah Barabara Land, 1 wooden roller coaster, and big tower in the middle of it survive? probably not.

how does that work. Coasters I know (or at least I thought so) you work (worked) at coney. Do you guys just put everything that can float away on a truck and drive it somewhere?

well it breaks down to just lil over 10 million per restaurant/bar/game place. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/041510dnbusdavebusterearns.24824d12a.html they lost money last year.... who knows if this will be a good deal or not

hopefully what they mean by untapped markets does not mean aggressive and over zealous expansion....

speaking of him.... has anyone seen or heard from him lately? I feel the board is slightly lost with out him around and congrats on your 8000 post

emphasis added. Look goodyellowkorn, im not in the mood to start a flame war with you. I never once suggested world's biggest bonfire. I never once said tear it down or keep it standing. I have always sided (as long as I can remember since joining) in the middle, that the rides future will be determined by the parks management. So before you go making blanket statements and adding words to my mouth (computer) please do not lump me into the burn the ride to the ground..... with that being said I apologize because they way you have been sounding lately is you believe the ride still has a future as it is. It seemed you were ignoring rational thoughts and stances, that is why I assumed, wrongly, that you want SoB to reopen as it is right now...... back to the facts.... SoB is closed this summer and only time will tell what the future of the ride will be

or ride it, question the ability of the park to maintain a ride for safety reasons. This may surprise you but for a while I lived in upstate ny, over 9 hours away from cincy. People have heard of Kings Island. they even, gasp, went to the park for vacations. Believe me people have heard of the park. Goodyellowkorn, SoB may not be geared towards families of four, but The Beast can be ridden by parents, actually any ride can be. Each area has the kiddie pen near the exit to corral the young kids in while the parents ride the rides. Goodyellow I understand you like SOB but try to see the other side of a discussion and its easier to come up with solutions instead of just starting a fire and leaving

goodyellow, i understand your frustrations but seriously people have heard of KI. If not because of the rides, or the paramount hawking of it back in the day, or because of the brady bunch. Either way people have heard of the park. the individual rides, maybe maybe not. Moving on to the other points you have tried to make again and again. Cedar Fair may or may not care about the teenagers who ride that ride, but they care about the families of 4 not riding that ride. one less ride means the family is at the park for 1 less hour. 1 less hour means they are not as hungry. 1 less ride people want to ride means they will have less reasons to return to the park in the future....

Your question is irrelevant. It's 2010, not 2050. 10 years later, I should be able to get on SOB and get a quality ride, just like day # 1. actually its not. if your first ride came after the failure of the ride, the removal of the loop, the lighter trains, then you are not getting the original experience..... but its cool i understand where you are coming from. But even after year 1 the ride (any ride) will not be the same. wood ages, bows, stretches, etc.....

First off, huge congrats on getting a job. and as I stated a while back, either in this topic or another SoB topic, that plans can and do change... Now I have a question, did you have to take a class where you pass the blame to someone else? (ie. it was the guy who designed it, or the guy who built it.... ) okay bad joke i know but huge congrats..... now that you have a grown up job, can you tell us exactly where SoB went wrong? and follow up... how do we fix it hehe

you know if you go to RCDB, and look at the pics of the ride in its glory days what a sweet loop.... Sweetness not as sweet

to everyone who didnt like the ride during their first rides, may i ask when you rode it first? Im not calling you out, but it seems that anyone who rode it prior to 2003/2004 loved their first rides, and anyone after that did not like their first rides....

Hey I never said the ride was a mistake from the beginning. I even said I enjoyed the ride the first year or two. It was rough but not bad rough. It was 80 mph rough and I could take it. The hill was great. Going into the first set of helix was not bad, it threw you to the side, but you were turning at 80. Coming up and out to go into the loop was nice. The second helix more of the first. The only part i did not enjoy was the drop out of the station. It was only slightly rough in that area. But around year 4 or 5 it just started getting worse for me. The coaster had lost some of its earlier magic. The first helix didnt seem one smooth turn but just a bunch of quick juts (as in my body bounced more side to side). The loop was still nice on the ride though. It got to the point that I would ride it but only to "get it out of the way" on my daily ride every ride in the park phase. Then the accident happened in year 6. The following year I rerode it thinking it had become better. It just felt jumpy to me and much rougher than I remembered it was. Could the ride have gotten worse (they did replace the trains) or was it that I was getting older and couldnt take the beating anymore? Who knows. But after 06 I would ride it once a year just to see how it was doing and it never seemed to reciprocate the love to me.

http://www.flickr.co...s/49728734@N02/ the photos are posted... too many to swamp this board with..... but maybe it could bring back some memories for the board members Photos now have descriptors.....

ok so I went back to the park today. Took the pictures. I will post them when I can. So it looks like I misspoke before. I got a picture of the dipper and also a white coaster located near what looks like white water canyon ride.

now lets be rationale many buildings have issues when being built

Son of Beast is an engineering marvel. Your an architect (well might be after college), just think if you built the tallest building ever built using wood. The building would be pretty big, but being made of wood it would need tons of maintenance. Many people think the building is ugly, or it can't support all the weight and only a certain amount of people can be on it (or some other flaw). Eventually an important piece of wood cracks making the building dangerous to be in. Don't you think it would still be an engineering marvel even though it ended up failing? you have a point, but many would consider a marvel to be something that has stood the test of time. Has been able to stay standing even though it should have collapsed, or been unsafe. I wouldnt nominate SOB as an engineering marvel, but I wouldnt say it was an engineering mistake. Instead look at it like the first test run of wooden superstructures. The Beast would be a marvel because it was so long and it has stood the tests of time. http://www.impactlab.com/2008/09/08/20-modern-engineering-marvels/ however these are modern marvels..... Kingda Ka made the list.

coaster junky anything could have happened but the park thought it could have been SOB's fault as well......

So I took a trip out there today to scout the park, with out my camera. Man just driving by the park is sad. The green tarp might as well be a funeral shroud, with the Dipper standing defiantly among the dead. With that being said I drove around the whole park, down 43, taking a right and coming up the backside of the park. From that angle you get a beautiful view of the dipper. The ride looks to be in decent condition (again all things considered, not being run and driving by at 25 MPH). But driving by the park just reminds me how sad that place has become. The water park is hidden from sight (from the road) and the remnants of the parks "glory days" are all over the surrounding area. Be it the wide open desolate parking lots, or the business surrounding the park. Ill go back in a week or so with the camera to see what I can take from the road.