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both places are now on my to do list.... awesome

wait they gutted the mechanics on the clock....................... well that wont be expensive to fix and replace in the future....

you walked under the station and it had props that looked like it came from the movie. they also played music from the movie... it gave the feel you were getting ready to intercept russians flying too close.... if you have seen the movie you know what im talking about hehe

I believe I asked this question before and I got an answer but I think there is some debate in it. When a ride is being sold/bought/transfered and it is a wooden coaster, what are they paying for? The blue prints, the wood, or the name? Names change on a ride, and wood is replaced, so really what is being sold or bought? The history? Ala the Ravens in Baltimore have all of the history from when they were the Browns, but the new Browns also keep that same history (or at least the fans do.) So if a ride reuses the old material, is it a new ride or the old ride envisioned? When SOB lost its loop was it a new ride? I am not sure if there are any clear cut answers to the above questions but for at least a moment they are fun to think about....

They also have to pay for the associates who serve the Coke, the AC in the building, new attractions, licensing fees for certain archaic children's characters, new pavers, flagpoles, and arches... and that's just what I can think of off the top of my head. You aren't JUST paying for the Coke. And, besides, if you don't like it, feel free to get a FREE cup of water which would cost you at other parks... [ I am a car packer myself. I will either eat my lunch in the car with Coke, or I will leave the park. I do not drink the Coke in the park. Now I understand they have to pay people, but if you really would like me to go into the hard core math functions of what goes where in a business I would love to. But it boils down, 4 bucks a pop for a Coke is high........ does not matter how many ways you spend the profit off of each drink....

haha so I may have been way off on my 40-75 cents per cup, but I was trying to be very conservative.... Now I know Coke would like us to spell and use Coke, but I am one of the few who do not call it a pop or a soda. Its the generic Coke for me.... what kind of Coke do you have? oh Ill have a Mountain Dew, or Ill have a Coca-Cola.....

haha i was hoping you were going to say "I treat like going to a park, I bring sunscreen and pretend that the lines are ques..."

^^^ ha Reminds me of when I was a kid I would go to the Kroger/IGA and buy 12 packs of Coke for 2.50... then sell each can for 50 cents.... I would do it during parades and festivals around my house.....

even at that though... I understand if you are a small restaurant owner... you may charge 3.00 bucks for a drink. There are hidden costs in drinks, i get that.... but if you are a big chain, which CF is, then you get stuff at usually a better deal... plus filling a CO2 tank is what 30 bucks? if that with a deposit on the tank.... Ice machine going down at Browntggr's place? bad... ice machine going down at KI? just use the other ..... Not to mention, chain places can and sometimes do give you a free refill or 5.... KI does not....

I understand that the ice machines break down but seriously how much work is there in delivering an ice cold Coke to a customer? I have worked in many restaurants and my pop has too. I understand that the Coke syrup comes in a bag, which is hooked to a line, which receives its carbonation and water which then runs all the way out to the dispenser. However even with all of the machinery and "work" it takes to depress the button, it costs roughly 40-75 cents per Coke (no matter the size). If you charge 2.00 bucks then you are already making almost 4 times the cost. So please tell me how a 4 dollar Coke is fair? from http://www.boneville.net/soda/buying_stuff.htm so .... a 12 oz Coke could cost you lets say 3.00 bucks.... so if you get (rounding down) 60 Cokes from 1 gallon that would be 180 dollars. So if you buy the 5 gallon box you will be making 900 dollars per bag (5 gallon) of Coke......

happy birthday to coney island. home of my first real kiss and first real dance (lovely moonlite gardens - circa 2001)

yes I know what he was talking about. However, if we are talking about what Cedar Fair could or would do, well then we might as well be throwing ideas down the stairs and which ever one lands closest is the right idea. Of course right now it would seem crazy to have a separate admission for the water park, just like when CF bought Geuga Lake the people there thought it was crazy to say the park would be closed at one point. Point is, its ceder fair they are the fun and only ones who know whats going to happen....

no one thought Geuga Lake would be only a water park in less than 4 years either....

but to be fair what other regional parks have had national attention for a ride? I305 was big in the realm of people who follow parks closely but to the casual observer no one would know.....

You would think this would be true. But it's actually not. The movies were a thriving business during the Great Depression. And while this summer has been a down one for the movies, they have done very well during the recession. No doubt travel budgets have been slashed though. I would imagine theme parks are less elastic than movies. Entertainment does not just include movies. There are theater shows (on broadway, off broadway, traveling shows), opera, orchestra, ballet, etc. Plus as shaggy said movies are a cheap entertainment. Well cheap is not the word these days, a family of four is 40 bucks, while a dvd is 18...... Back to KI Let me warn whoever reads the following statements that this is my opinion from a different stance. KI will probably be sold off but not in its current state. If Cedar Fair continues to try and recoup their lost monies, look for it in many ways. Parks that have extra land that can be sold off may be sold off. As the parks are being put up for auction or sale CF may begin to cannibalize their other parks. Correct me if I am wrong but this is one of the few times, if ever, that a company that started off with 1 main park has ballooned into a multipark group. So as they shrink they will take some of the better rides from other parks while shipping off the less great rides from their home park. What does that mean for KI? well maybe a reduction in all of that open land, it could be a dismantling of a ride or two. If the time comes for CF to sell KI they will not let it be sold to become a competitor to their home park. Maybe I just like conspiracy theories but for KI to be sold off, CF will probably do their best to keep it from competiting against them.... I would have to think though KI would be a park other buyers would want......

I think you could see the trams return. But not as a gas powered, maybe electric?

wow what a great looking dark ride... Shaggy my list is similar to yours except 1. Tower of terror (WDW) 2. Haunted Mansion (WDW) 3. Spiderman (Universal) 4. Phantom Theater 5. Pirates of the Carribean (WDW) Never been to Disney Land so I can not comment....

what does vallyed mean?

People like those sort of rides, it seems YOU are the one with an issue..... Just a troll, have fun with him. Actually you did, and I bolded it just for you

..... 120) what people from a Theme park message board want

Thank you. That is exactly what I meant. What I also meant by that statement was I'm tired of reading "ROFL TRIMZ SUCKZ! KILZ THEM!" on every single tread about I305 and The Beast. And trims don't tear up the trains? They do... Would you rather have a little more tear and wear on the train? Or the ride structure? Son of Beast anyone? What would be easier and cheaper? Replacing a few pieces of wood or replacing a large piece of the train? Trims are sometimes the best answer like you said but for The Beast and maybe I305 I think those two rides don't need to be trimmed like they are now. first off wood is replaced on all rides, almost all of the time. With that being said it's probably easier and cheaper in the long run to work on a train than have to shut down an entire ride to replace a structure that was destroyed.... HEY EVERYONE WHO THINKS USING TRIMS DO NOT HELP SAVE MONEY PLEASE THINK ABOUT THIS..... Do you honestly think every single park in the world has been wrong, about using trims to save money on the structure, and you are the very first person to come up with the idea that it would be cheaper to replace parts of a ride versus a train?

And trims don't tear up the trains? They do... so do brakes on a car... your point?

Well NBC has not been the lead station in much lately. So its about time they learn from the alphabet network

but The Beast has always been trimmed**... its not like the ride was trimless for 10 years...... this ride was trimless for less than 1 month. No one likes to go slow, but no one likes to lose consciousness and get hurt either... I think what HTCO was trying to say "People need to stop saying trims are useless." They may suck but they are there for a reason, the reason being safety and ride maintenance. Does not make them evil, just part of the ride.... ** trimmed ever since the general public rode it

i love a good green bean casserole..... are the onion rings friend in vegetable oil or other?