brenthodge

Do you mean use the stage? Like “fill the stage” I think you could by supplementing the ground units with some draping. Really they could bring over the big center tree as well and possibly add a few minor set pieces for each of the “acts”. Even reusing the large step unit from PTE if it still exists would anchor the space. Totally agree with the “outdoor smaller” idea, but any show outdoor -even small- should really provide seating/heat.

My vote is Follies. That show was WASTED on the bandstand. Feel like they almost need to bring CoolYule back for a different vibe since follies, amSwingin’ and Mitletobes all have that same 40-50s vibe.

She’s teasing, but not saying much. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNTmE5ms_iQ/?igsh=MW4zNTF3Z2JoM3RnMA==

Starting there, but if it was a “survival strategy” I think it COULD work with a lot of very public, very big changes. Tons of honestly - like saying outright “ both of our companies have a lot of of obligations (to our vendors and financial partners) but our main obligation is to YOU, our loyal guests. We invite you to join us on a transformative journey as we redefine the regional theme park industry. We’ll be honest, there will be some changes that, for the short term we all might not love, but together we can build a company that gives you places to create a lifetime of memories from coast to coast.

“C6 entertainment properties” was my vote.

I’ve been banging that drum from day 1. They kept the 6 name for brand recognition, oblivious to the fact that it was NOT a good impression.

Well, that ship sailed a few years ago…

It was more like that year one (you know, the Covid year that somehow sucked less than this one LOL. There were tasting passes, every food location had a “trick” savory and “treat” sweet (or less spicy or odd) option. There were multiple shows including a pirate themed “game show”.

I couldn't believe how sleazy those emails were - Literally one a day. Telling me to hurry... get HAUNT and Winterfest and the last few weeks of the almost over season before our dumpster fire sale passes go on sale next week for MORE benefits and LESS price.

They sent me daily emails pushing MORE EXPENSIVE HALF USED 25 season passes a week before 26 went on sale! It’s like they forget we’ve all got this cool thing call “internet” now and we can find out what’s happening-all over the world almost as it happens we’re not stupid guys!

YES! Ive tried to figure out which parks exactly would be "Flagship" parks, but there needs to be maybe 6 that have that status. The as you said create a unified brand for those lower tier parks. This wouldn't just be based on size. These would form almost the "bread and butter filler" that have light theming, more unifor food offerings, bulk bought things like cups, bags without park-specific branding.

It would be nice to keep just so CedarFair parks are Peanuts and SIX parks to give more of a reason to visit different parks.

Yeah. That’s odd. I’ve given them the “supply chain issues” pass all season, but I guess it’s an intentional choice. Odd considering our current societal feelings on bathrooms etc.

I think the problem is they arent really providing a compelling reason to WANT to go to 40 different parks, just the ability TO go. So many parks have cut hours, eliminated events, scaled back events, moved to corporate identity strategies etc that theres not really a reason to travel to another park. Outside of the enthusiast community or the coaster stat lovers, few people probably really see the benefit of traveling to these parks. I feel like NOW is the time more than every to highlight the differences more than the sameness. It's the time to bring in local beers, locally sourced ingredients, regional food favorites. It's time to use the original logos (with "a six flags park" as a small tag line. Its time to even rename the ones that are just "Six Flags over wherever" to something more compelling. Its time to market them with a great story about how these competitors are now one great family of parks. Its time to do data mining to target wood coaster lovers with the message "You love Mystic Timbers, You should check out American Thunder at SixFlags St Louis- only 8 hours from Cincinnati. Here's a 20% coupon for any Mystic Timbers AND American Thunder logo items, so you can rep your love of the wood to everyone you meet" It's goofy, but its fun. Really lean into how DIFFERENT all of these parks are and HOW LUCKY you are to be able to enjoy all of the history, the memories and the great times with one family of amazing parks. Cut most cap expenses for the next few years and instead of adding half decent rides late in the season, market the great things you have. If they arent great parks, MAKE them great. Give me a reason outside of "hey we are driving kinda close to Carrowinds and they are open for 2 more hours" to make the trip - REWARD me and reward my efforts. Build a loyalty program around how many parks you have visited. They have an unbelievable product and opporunity to leverage it, they just refuse to learn from, and keep making the same bottom-line focussed mistakes.

Huh?

I love seeing them do this the fun, engaging way that gets people talking… you know, the way KI used to do things?? Shed anyone?

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Oh Dolly, you TEASE!

To be fair, soapbox had way more theming in concept. So much easy stuff got cut.

So you are using your 25 pass at CedarPoint (according to Debbie). You have not activated your 26 pass at your home park yet. If you now only go to CedarPoint, but have a 2026 KI pass, you will not be able to go to any other park in 26 until you “activate” at KI first. (Maybe this is all theory and it doesn’t really matter in actuality, but that’s the answer they are telling people) Using this example, if you bought NEW at KI, but went to CP first, you wouldn’t get in.

Right, but they arent calling this a “Gold w all park passport added SALE. They are calling a gold PASS (or at 6F parks still using the term membership). That would’ve actually cleared the whole thing up. “Renew your GOLD pass for 2026 now, and through Sept 1 (16th or whenever we decide to really end it) you’ll get the AllParkPassport added on for FREE! Enjoy your new season pass, all park access, and the benefits that come with it (including free parking at most of our parks) starting right away. Any of the other add ons, like food, drink and FastLane will be available at your purchasing park now, and at all parks in 2026.

Yes- to all that (as far as I understand pr “Debbie” today) And big YES to the second point. This thing is getting out of hand, and by not answering questions, the social sites are making it worse by assuming and putting out as policy. Maybe I over think things, and sure 99.9% of people buying or renewing passes will go to home park (sounds like a good chunk are there today) but there are always those outliers no one thinks about.

They’ve made this the biggest mess. I just waited on hold for 20 minutes to talk to Debbie who confirmed 1) even renewals have to go to their home park first to “activate” 2026 pass, but you do not have to wait till 26, when you visit in 25 you activate 26, but if you reactivate at KI and for some reason don’t return to KI ANYMORE in 2025, the YES once 2026 starts you must come to KI first as you never came to KI with your 26 pass, even if you went to other parks with your APP add on to your 25 pass, you just used your remaining 25 pass at Cedar Point for example. 2) once you activate your new or renewal pass at your home park you WILL receive free parking at all parks 3) she admitted it is super confusing and indicated the fact that I waited 20 to finally get a straight answer should indicate how confusing it has been. It didn’t have to be this hard!

Many people are idiots and will ask questions just to ask them, so you can never have a clean roll-out that makes it question-free. The issue isn’t the questions, it’s the fact that they aren’t giving answers. They seem to be fine with letting certain admins of certain FBgroups answer all the questions for them. Are they the right answers??? Who knows. They’re not talking.

Many people are idiots and will ask questions just to ask them, so you can never have a clean roll-out that makes it question-free. The issue isn’t the questions, it’s the fact that they aren’t giving answers. They seem to be fine with letting certain admins of certain FBgroups answer all the questions for them. Are they the right answers??? Who knows. They’re not talking.