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We will never trust another leak if they do more clearing. Not sure where you got those pics, but they don't look like the real world versions. Take a look at Google maps. Both coasters have a smaller set of supports between the tallest and backbone footer. They just put them in line with the widest instead of between them and hte backbone footer.

The footers on the leaked plan match exactly with the City docs. The footers on the leaked plan also support 3 hills, helix, turn, brake run. If this is fake, whoever at KI had this drawn just to mess with this board is a god level troll.

Drop, 3 hills, helix, turn, brake run. The coaster community is going to roast them for this.

Looking at the footer data. The station footers are at 741 ft and the footers at the first drop are 750 ft. That means that the drop height will probably be shorter than the lift height. lol

Oh, no doubt. You did the right thing. On the length of the coaster.... I used google earth and used their measurement tool to measure the ride path. The leak today was ~4600 ft. Diamondback was also ~4600 ft. A lot of odd choices here.

Hmm, I thought the pdf someone posted yesterday or early today about what info they have to provide for requests said you could. Maybe that was Warren county and not Mason.

Were better versions of the Mason plans posted? I grabbed the initial ones but when I try to zoom in and read things, it's just a blur. If anyone else goes to the city to get plans, ask for them to be emailed. You get high res pdf's that way ;-)

The lift plans from the city are going to be 100% legit. You don't play games with governmental agencies that can shut down your project. The leaked plan with the whole layout is another story. I'm saying 85% likely to be legit. I'm 99% certain it came from inside KI or B&M. I just can't instantly discount that its a red herring.

The leaked plan has been deleted and is not allowed to be posted. Might look at things in this post though:

The station footer diagram and a layout were leaked. Chaos ensued.

Non inverting Wing or floorless would be more pointless than a short giga. A little hard to tell, but the widest footers line up fairly well with leviathan. It even has the same triangle footer on the widest set. The rest are close as well. The station footer is actually short of the base of leviathan's suggesting a shorter lift.

Actually, using Google Earth, the ground raises about 10 ft from the station to the base of the 1st drop. No. For it to be a heartline, the track would need to bow a little left then right to get the train centered. If the track was straight, an inversion would just rotate around the track itself and try to throw the riders off.

Worlds shortest Giga! Theres no inversions in that layout. Maybe an overbanked turn at the turnaround.

Also by buying a Small instead of an XL :-X The ones that were submitted to the city and people have copies of are pretty confirmed.

At one point you could start replying to a post and when you hit send, your post showed up two pages later.

Someone posted it and got deleted by mods. Get off that high horse now. Loops in that view don't go in straight lines. There would be a zig zag.

The plans match the Station Blueprints that came out today. IF they are fake, someone on the inside faked them.

Another thing to consider for those trying to figure lift hill height. Take a look at Leviathan and Fury's lift hills. The tallest support doesn't meet the track at the same point. On Fury, it meets at the peak. On Leviathan, it's on the downhill. That could throw the calculation off some.

You mean doubting and talking down on people as a way to intimidate them in to doing what you want? Wow. You brought the Reddit playbook with you.

Off is off. They don't say just get project North close to true North and call it good. It's either dead on or has no correlation. And it looks like 45 degrees to me. You consider that "not far off"?

This is what I'm saying. On paper, the layout looks meh. Real world can be a lot different.

Except, as was proven on the Mystic Timbers Plans, Plan North, And True North are not the same.

I think we are saying the same thing. I'd rather have dragster than pretty much any ride. But the layout from above, a big paper clip, looks like it would be a terrible ride.

There really wasn't enough info to make assumptions. The layout just looked too straight to me. Of course Magnum is very straight. It this thing drops 300 ft and the next hill is only 100 ft tall, this thing could be the most wicked airtime ride ever.

If you looked at a top down view of Dragster, you'd say that's it? After you rode it, you'd think differently.