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Yes, it's painted.

Just catching up... Yeesh. This is getting almost as bad as Decoding 2014 where people were still thinking it was an Intamin Giga after the footers for an invert were already poured. The denial game is strong here. There is ZERO chance that work between FOF and Racer is part of the coaster's station or storage shed. ZERO. It looks like the start of a pole barn to me. Similar to what they built out by the boneyard. It could be a metal building, but whether they set poles next or pour the floor will answer that. But no, it's not part of the coaster. There it is.... The peak of the lift will be close to that tree by the buildings. It will come towards the camera that took the pic. It looks like the pic was taken a little to the left of where the peak of the second hill is going to be. It will cross the "ravine" somewhere between those two points.

lol yeah Cedar Fair had no idea of the problems of those rides before they bought all of the paramount parks in one shot. It's a shame you weren't around to explain basic business principles to them.

Pretty sure Paramount, which paid for those rides, has wrote those off the books by now.

Except all of those were built before Cedar Fair bought the park.

But doesn't that mean that Fury is better than anything at CP and takes away from it?

Fury is at Carowinds. In North Carolina.

Yellow is the storage shed. Red is the Transfer Track. Black is the station. Blue is the base of the lift. The codes on the footer plan match up exactly with the MCT tack markings at CSF that have been posted on here. On your pic, you have where the train leaves the transfer track and enters the station lined up with the base of Fury's lift. I get that theres a lot of pages here and people skip or skim and miss things, but this is the layout of the station area.

You are better off lining up the station part of PX with the shed of Fury. Line the two transfer tracks up first for scale, then move the last station footer of PX in line with the base of Fury's lift. That'll show how much shorter it is.

True North isn't on the plans. Just project North. Same as the Project X plans. Both plans seem like Project North is ballpark about 50 degrees Clockwise from True North. I wonder if you were to use to coords from the two docs if the 0 point is the same?

Except we did have blueprints of MT. It was about 45 off True North.

I was going to ask when everyone thought we'd get a giga, but too soon. lol

You are comparing an engineered plan that uses surveyed measurements with a Satellite image that was taken from 1000 miles away, isn't necessarily directly overhead, and may be a stitched image. We ran into the same thing on MT. Things didn't line up perfectly then either.

Instead of turning the layers off and on, change opacities. Makes it easier to see. No. A mod just hasn't seen it yet. The original leak was two screenshots. One of the left side of the ride, the other the right side. The combined version that got posted here, and then got posted to reddit, was just a bad splice job that was done in a rush when everyone was badmouthing the people who actually had the images. The two images line up just fine and everything is right on them.

Your definition of towering over and mine are different. Also, ET sits on ground ~20 ft higher than the new coaster. KI Central says the top observation deck it 275 ft.(https://KICentral.com/rides/eiffel-tower/). And we aren't sure the new lift will even hit 300 ft. The blueprints don't make that clear.

You may want to temper your expectations. It's Probably not going to be taller than ET and isn't going to tower over WindSeeker.

You usually don't need a laser level to do a gravel lot for staging. I think this is a building pad. Using that shambhala layout I got 4350 vs the 4650 for Project X. On a straight percentage basis, that puts Project X at 5485. Almost Identical to Leviathan, Thats without adding more for taller hills, so it could be longer than Levi. Also comparing, the detail of that layout is too similar to Project X to discount it as a fan created fake.

^ that will get you the plans filed with the city. For the leaked layout, you'll probably have to go to R/rollercoasters on reddit. They can't be posted here.

Thats on the lift side. I was talking about the drop side. But that footer doesn't tell you what coaster type it is. They are putting that on multiple types now. For example, here is one on Valravn: Based on pics from CSF, Hershey's Hyper will have that backbone footer as well. I'm referring to how the footer has a note to see 2/S3.2. When you go to that page, it has the "alternate double pier cap section" under that number. It only has one view, and that view implies a round support, and not a square backbone. All of the profiles of footer diagrams on that page show those footers mounting two round supports. The data section confuses things more. It has the Footer having 28 bolts and using the same template as the lift footer. Suggesting it is indeed a backbone footer. But then for reference it has Typ S3.2 which are the two post, round support footers. I agree it probably is a backbone footer. I'm just seeing enough internal disagreements in the plans to not be able to say 100% that it is.

Actually the leaked plans show high and low points plus support heights and locations. That turn is the first hill after the drop. The turnaround is the second. Theres no bunny hills between.

@BSBMX sums it up for the most part. We differ a little in that I'm not 100% that the drop side footer is a backbone footer. The design shown in the plans and what we see on Fury and Leviathan aren't the same. The overview shows a more rectangular footer, while those other two coasters have a large square footer that sits flat on the ground. The overview references a drawing that seems to be missing a view, but the view that does appear looks more like a multi-support footer to me. That leaves some debate in my mind about the drop side and the math involved. It could be that they just consider that footer as part of the next phase and its not really a part of this, so they will include in the next set of drawings. If it is accurate though and is a two support footer, then that could change the math quite a bit. What we can be sure of though is at the widest(and assumed to be tallest) set of supports, the angular height should be right around 299 ft. The problem is that plans show the supports there lean forward and most likely tie into the backbone as it's dropping. Theres also, as mentioned, not knowing the drop angle and geometry of the top of the hill. The steeper the drop, and the smaller the radius of the crest, the taller it can go. But theres limitations on what the trains can do. Personally, I have my doubts whether the top of the lift will be 300 ft to the ground at the peak, but we just don't have enough info to say that with any certainty.

Canadas Wonderland has two B&M Megacoasters.

I was about to say the same thing. *shudders*

Catching up with this thread..... From the leaked plan, the first hill is a highly banked, or overbanked, turn. The second hill is the treble clef element. So the first half will likely not have airtime. Well the station is a building with walls, electric, queue lines, control room etc. The rest of the ride is literally just track, rails, supports and footers. There is obviously going to be more involved with the station. They've drawn everything they can draw on the rest of the ride. They will also have the free dinner on the coasters nightly. Nothing like eating bugs! I think the 45 degrees was somewhere between urban Legend and just people making uneducated guesses about what Other coaster's lift angles are. That becomes "fury has a 45 degree angle, so this will too". That has been debunked on both cases. They'd have to also pay an engineer/architect to do the math and design those fake plans. All of the math in those data sheets is accurate and matches real world elevations. So that involves paying a surveyor to survey those spots. Pretty expensive for practical joke. I don't think for one second that the city plans are fake. I can fathom the whole plan leak being an internal fake. Even though, at this point, it was executed poorly if it was intentional. But the city plans are going to be what's built.

Smaller size, Cheaper cost. World's Tallest Hyper Coaster. 299 feet. A record never to be broken.