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Transformers even uses the same exact vehicles as Spiderman. They didn't even try to change it. It's basically the same ride.I was there on Monday and am hoping to get a full TR written tomorrow. Let's just say that yeah, a lot of rides have screens. MIB isn't one of them though. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk

Okay I'll bite... What's the difference between elephant ears and funnel cakes?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The difference is funnel cakes are meh and can be found at any amusement park or local festival just about anywhere throughout the summer, while elephant ears are amazing and hard to find anywhere else.My only request with Rivertown, which is sure to go unfulfilled because I'm pretty sure no one else cares, is for a few benches to be added near the WWC exit by the splash cannon things. That is a beautiful -- and cool in the summer -- area of the park that is absolutely perfect to bring a beverage and order of potato wedges to and have a relaxing lunch or snack or break. Plus I see parents hanging out there while their kids ride all the time, with nowhere to sit. Since they already got rid of all the other nice, shaded areas to relax for a minute in Rivertown, if I could just have a bench to sit on there I'd be one happy park-goer. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk

Just left the park after a fun and very exhausting day. I'll try to find time to post a TR by week's end. TLDR version: lots of rides with screens and spin outs. So many screens, so many spin outs. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk

Awesome. Sounds like a plan. Glad there's a family dryer nearby. Come to think of it, at CP this past summer my brother and I hit up all the water rides on a day where it couldn't have been any warmer than 60 degrees out (I know I was wearing a sweatshirt anyway) and I don't remember it being that bad. But it's nice to have the dryer as a backup!

Thank you everyone for the feedback! I think we're going with Universal for a few reasons. First, I think my wife will enjoy those parks more. In her words, "my inner child is dead" lol (again her words, not mine!) and she therefore would have no appreciation for any of the classic rides, or feel any nostalgia while at the park. I'm the complete opposite, but that's ok, opposites attract. Secondly, Disney seems too much like work. People are sharing links and advice on how to get the most out of a Disney experience, which I certainly appreciate and all, but it seems like an awful lot of work and an awful lot of things to keep track of in order to avoid crowds and long lines. I don't feel like running back and forth between rides and kiosks all day and having to show up to certain rides at certain times. I'd rather just show up and enjoy as much as I can at my own pace and on my own schedule, which seems entirely possible at US, ESPCIALLY with Express Passes (if we even need them). Finally, while the Star Wars Launch Bay looks pretty cool, I don't think I'd really be all that excited over what is basically a prop museum. I'm a big Star Wars fan, but not THAT big. I'll certainly want to visit when they finish their Star Wars expansion though. It still was a tough call overall. I think I like my favorite rides at WDW (Splash, the Safari thing in AK, ToT) more than my favorite rides at US, and I still haven't been since Expedition Everest and the 7 Dwarves Mine Train opened, but I'll try to make it back down hopefully within the next couple years for a proper Disney vacation. The only problems with going to US are 1. I'll still talk myself into riding the water rides which is going to be very cold, 2. I'll still want to come back down once the new King Kong ride opens, and 3. I won't be able to ride the intense rides. But that's ok. There are actually more rides than I thought that will be new to me, so I'm looking forward to those. Thanks again all for the the help!

Hello all, Been a while...hope everyone is doing well. I am looking for help and can't think of a better place to ask! I am in Florida right now and will be in Orlando for one day only. However that day is totally wide open, so I would like to spend that day enjoying one of these resorts. The problem is we can't decide where to go! So I ask you all for advice. Should we spend the day hopping around the Disney Parks, or opt for Universal Studios instead? Here are some factors to consider: 1. Due to a recent surgery, I have to avoid the intense coasters like The Hulk, Rock N Roller Coaster, etc. I can still handle the likes of Space Mountain, Seven Dwarves Mine Ride, etc. 2. The high temp for Monday (the day I am going) is only 60, which pretty much eliminates any water rides -- a major bummer for sure since Splash Mountain and Ripsaw Falls are quite possibly my 2 favorite rides down there. 3. Money is not a factor, nor is time (other than the fact that, you know, I only have one day lol. But I have no time restrictions on that one day). So park entry cost, food, any type of fast pass system, etc. is within the budget. 4. It's just me and my wife. No kids. We are each 30 years old. She is pretty indifferent to the whole trip but knows I really want to go, so she's being a trooper lol. 5. I am a huge Star Wars fan. I know Hollywood Studios has a revamped Star Wars area but it seems like a work in progress still and content seems limited. I am having a hell of a time finding reviews and other opinions and sources of information on the Web so I don't know what my expectations should be if I choose to go there. 6. I have seen half the Harry Potter movies so I wouldn't call myself a huge fan by any means, but man that place looks impressive from what I've seen online. 7. The last time I was at either park was 2000. And then I also have a few questions that could affect my decision if they are answered: 1. My biggest concern with WDW is the logistics of getting from park to park with a one day hopper pass. If I chose WDW I would want to visit MK, AK and HS. I just don't know how feasible that is for one day, to go to all 3 of those parks and see everything I would want to see. 2. Another concern about WDW is that I am pretty overwhelmed and intimidated by their Fast Pass system (forgive me if this is not the proper name). Would I even be able to ride the popular rides there? You read all kinds of things about long lines if you choose the wrong Fast Pass rides and the lack of spontaneity with a visit to WDW, so I want to make sure I'm not screwing myself over if go there. 3. I made a comment about water rides before: are there any that I can ride that I might not get too wet on? I'm sure there's not a right answer there as sometimes you can get soaked or be dry as a bone from riding the same ride from one time to the next, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I'm trying to convince myself that I'll be OK if I ride Splash Mountain or Jurassic Falls lol, but at the same time I'm not sure I want to risk being cold and miserable the rest of the day! I think that about covers all my thoughts and questions, but I'll check back if anything else pops into my head! I understand that it's hard for you to tell me which parks I would enjoy more when you don't know me, but I'm just trying to gather as much info as I can so I can make a proper decision. Thanks for your help in advance! Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk

Dude, pull it up on Google Maps and tell me it's not waaaaayyyyyyy more north than it is "west". The "Point", if you will, runs northwest to southeast, sure, but it's got much more of a north/south direction to it than an east/west direction. You could say it runs from NNE to SSW. The same can be said for Hotel Breakers. Either way, to say "not north" is beyond laughable.

The northern-most section of the hotel. The area of the hotel nearest the northern park entrance near Magnum.

My brother and I made the trip up to the Point this past Wednesday and Thursday. It was the first time for both of us since Maverick's opening year, whenever that was. I know they had bad weather up there Monday and Tuesday, and with a nice forecast for Wed. and Thurs. we expected the park to be a little busier than usual. But it ended up not being too bad, as you will see below. On our way back to Breakers we noticed several workers on the 2nd hill of Mean Streak doing what appeared to be pretty serious repairs, so we figured that would be down for both days. Not the worst ride to be "forced" to avoid, lol. We arrived at Breakers a little before 11:00 and when we got out of the car it was cold, overcast and windy! Thank goodness I grabbed my hoodie as I left my house or it would have made for a chilly morning. To our surprise our room was already ready. This was especially surprising given that there were no reservations available for Tuesday night when we originally booked the trip. So we just decided to get settled in the room before heading to the park. We were in the northern? wing of the hotel near the back entrace, which really is an ideal spot. They did a nice job with the renovation but at $310 after taxes and fees and whatnot for just 1 night in literally the cheapest room they offer, I just don't think the convenience factor outweighs the cost. I've stayed at some kickass hotels for $300 per night and not minded, but this room was just a little too basic at that price point. But hey, if they're selling out weekdays at that price, then more power to them. After checking in we wanted to grab an Auntie Anne's pretzel before heading in but they didn't have any ready and said it'd be 7 minutes. No thanks. So we got a quick ride on Magnum after waiting just a few trains. Rode in the ejector seat, which was a great way to start but a killer on the thighs with that lap bar. Afterwards we hit up the pretzel place next to Magnum's entrace; it was certainly no Auntie Anne's, but it was decent enough. As we finished we saw Dragster's first test car fly up the track. "Perfect timing" we thought and headed towards the entrance. After waiting about 15 minutes for them to let people through the queue, we waited another 5-10 to get on the ride and enjoyed the most thrilling 15 seconds I've experienced at any amusement park. Following this we hit both Power Towers, which I had actually never ridden before in previous visits. I enjoyed both as I love those anticipation-type rides. The red side was a walk-on and we only had to wait 1 cycle for the blue side. Then we rode Corkscrew, which had a 20 minute wait. The Corkscrew over the midway is very underrated and one of the best elements to any ride in the park, both on the ride and walking underneath on the midway. People who have been going to the park for the near 40 years now that it's been open probably have lost some appreciation for how neat that is, but it wasn't lost on me. It really is pretty cool. And yes, I realize logistically that when going from back of the park to front, it would make way more sense to do Corkscrew THEN Power Tower lol, but we are not Cedar Point experts. After Corkscrew we saw Sky Ride was a walk-on and thought "eh, what the heck" and rode it to the front of the park. It was another first for me. While on it we noticed Raptor was down. Bummer! So we headed for Gatekeeper. At this point the clouds had broken, the wind had died down and it was in the mid-60's and sunny. Beautiful! Couldn't ask for better weather. Neither one of us had been on GK before, or ridden any winged coaster anywhere so we were pretty excited. The sign at the front said an estimated wait time of 1.75 hours, but it was only an hour. And well worth it! I sat in the left outside seat towards the back of the train and that first drop is outstanding from there, as is the rest of the ride. Loved every minute of it. Afterwards we hit up the Freestyle Coke machine and got a slice of pizza in that area near GK's exit. I had read that the pizza at CP is "meh" but I found this to be worth every penny. Good stuff. Following GK we headed for Blue Streak, which only had about a 15 minute wait. Seeing as I love Racer, this is another ride I fully enjoy. As we exited we noticed Raptor started running a few test trains. Did we really luck out again? We sure did! We hopped right in the line that built up near the entrance, waited about 10-15 minutes for the queue to open up and got on the 2nd train, back row. This was my first time on Raptor post-Banshee and it still holds up. Raptor's 0-G roll is outstanding and I love the force on the helix at the end. Great ride. The natural progression from there is to head to the west side of the park, so Iron Dragon was next. The wait was about 20 minutes. Any coaster with 2 lift hills is ok by me I love the back and forth motion down the 2nd hill; great element there. I dearly hope they keep this ride around, or at the very least don't replace it with another record-breaking extreme coaster. Those are great and all, but family coasters like this one are essential to make a well-rounded park, and at my age I need a breather every now and then. Rougarou was next and also had about a 20 minute wait. We expected longer given the fact that this was the first year it was being operated with the floorless trains. We were just as excited to hear how it was pronounced as we were to ride it, lol. "Ahh, it's ROO-gah-roo" we said to each other the first time we heard the spiel on the station. We each were among those who found Mantis to be too uncomfortable to ride, so we welcomed the change. While I did smack my ear pretty hard after the vertical loop, the experience overall was much improved over Mantis IMO. On Pointbuzz there seems to be some unexplained hatred for the 2nd half of the ride after the MCBR, but I found it to be quite enjoyable. It's almost a mini-spaghetti bowl-type experience. Oh yeah, Millenium Force time next. Our favorite ride in the park. With a 2 hour estimated wait time, my brother decided to plop down 5 bucks and try the Plinko-style game for a one-time Fast Lane pass...and won! Easily the best 5 bucks spent all day. With the pass we waited 15 minutes and chose the very back seat. I don't think I'd ever ridden anywhere other than the front train before, so this was a different experience. The first hill is SOOOO awesome from back there. I'm a yeller, and I ran out of breath yelling before we even hit the bottom of the hill! I get the whole "Millenium Forceless" complaint that many people have (even though I do start to grey out at the bottom of the first hill), but the height and speed more than make up for it. I've also still never ridden another Giga other than this one so keep that in mind. So for me, this one is as good as it gets. Following Millie we headed back to their version of Rivertown (forgive me for not knowing the exact name). I absolutely LOVE the music back here with all the banjo cover songs. "Rocketman" on banjo was seriously killer. Seeing as it was only in the high 60s/low 70s, the water rides had pretty short lines. And seeing as we were staying in a hotel just outside the park with plenty of extra clothes to change into, we thought "why not?!" We forked up 2 bucks for a locker to throw our shoes, socks and valuables in and headed to Shoot the Rapids. It was a fun ride with a little bit of themeing, but they certainly could have done more IMO. But it was nice to sit and enjoy a 6 and a half minute ride, which really was about 8 minutes with how badly it was stacking. I didn't get too wet, but my brother got it a little worse being on the waterfall side. After that it was Snake River Falls, which was a much longer walk to the entrance than we were anticipating! Great ride though, and we both got absolutely soaked on this one. As a side note, I don't understand why they need both of these rides. They're pretty similar to each other in height and overall ride experience. I'm not complaining or anything; STR just doesn't seem like it adds any variety. Oh well. Anyway, we walked on the other water ride (once again I forget the name, the White Water Canyon-style ride) which I enjoyed because I stayed relatively dry while my brother got DRENCHED! He got hit by 2 of the waterfalls while I avoided all of them. Overall the water ride experience was definitely worth it. Despite being cool out for a mid-July day, at no point were either of us cold and we dried off faster than I thought we would have. Next stop was Maverick, but it wasn't running. "It's been down for 2 and a half hours" they said. Bummer. So it was time to head back to Mine Ride and Skyhawk. "Wait, did I just see a Mean Streak train go by?" Sure enough, Mean Streak was open. I couldn't believe it. We got in line and waited about 30 minutes. 30 minutes for Mean Streak? Yeah, my thoughts exactly. We sat in the back row and jackhammered away. Instant headache, the back of the head type, too. And I love the layout; it's just a shame it's so rough. I find it fitting that there's a first aid station just past the exit, lol. It was Mine Ride time next. At 6'1", 200 lbs. (not huge by any means, but a little on the larger side) and my brother even bigger than that, this ride isn't for us! It did make me appreciate Adventure Express more though which absolutely blows this ride out of the water. Skyhawk followed, which was a much more enjoyable experience. That's one of my favorite flats anywhere. Each of these rides had about a 15 minute wait. Finally it was time to ride Gemini. Pretty much a walk-on. We opted to each take a side and race against each other. I didn't realize you could actually high-five the other train; either I never paid attention before, or I just forgot -- which is just as likely. So that was cool to experience. That was the closest race I've ever experienced on a racing roller coaster; I'm not sure which side won. At this point it was time to head back to Breakers and grab a bite at one of the restaurants. We chose Friday's; bad call. The service was ok but the food was no good, even for a Friday's. Burgers were overcooked even moreso than usual and the fries almost tasted stale. Bleh. After eating and regrouping in the room, it was right around 9:00. Just enough time to get a couple night rides in. So we headed back in and hit up Magnum first; it was another short wait. We decided to sit in the middle of the train in one of the middle seats to see how the airtime there compared to the ejector seat. "Yeah, maybe there IS a little more airtime in 1-3" we decided. Following that we headed all the way up to GK to try the right side this time. The crew was MOVING this time around (not that they were slow the first time, but they were hauling it at night). We only waited about 10-15 minutes. Awesome yet again, but we agreed that the left side might be slightly better. We started heading towards MF after that but saw the Luminosity show was going. We didn't know if we'd be able to cross over to Millie, so we decided not to risk it and headed to TTD. We agreed that if we rode it then, that we wouldn't have to ride it on Thursday which would free up some time for other rides since we'd only have a few hours in the park to work with on our 2nd day. But alas, as we got to the entrance people were flooding back out the entrance saying it was down. Oh well. We still had time for one more ride and since Magnum was on the way out anyway, we figured "what the heck?" and got in line one last time. We opted for the front seat and got on the 2nd to last train of the night. "Maybe it's just the whole first car that has a ton of airtime, not just the 3rd row" we thought as our thighs got obliterated one last time. We originally wanted to ride Maverick at night but since it was down, Magnum was a nice consolation prize. Very very solid night ride for sure. As we exited the park, TTD started running again. I guess those who waited it out were rewarded! Overall we got in 22 total rides (19 different rides) in right around 10 hours without a Fast Lane pass. I'll certainly take that! Couldn't ask for better weather or a better day overall. Day 2 started with breakfast at Perkins in Breakers. You know how every Perkins is the worst, ever? Not this one! To my surprise the service was great, the food was good and they were fast. I couldn't believe it. Somewhere between 95 and 100% of my previous Perkins experiences had been negative, and seeing as this was the only real breakfast option and "people gotta eat", I had pretty low expectations. But they did great! Kudos to the staff over there. The weather on Thursday was perfect. 70's and sunny. We got to the gate right at 9:00 for ERT and headed straight to Maverick with our fingers crossed. It was running! Hooray! We hopped on what had to have been one of the first trains of the day and had a great ride. It's certainly one of my favorites in the park. We decided it would probably be best to get 2-3 more rides in on it now before the park opens to the GP. BEH!!! WRONG!!! We get up to the station for our 2nd ride and it's down again. Son of a.... We wait about 10 minutes but it didn't look like it was going to be a quick fix and we certainly didn't want to waste any more of ERT than we already had to that point, so we headed straight for MF. Thankfully the line wasn't too bad yet and we only waited about 25 minutes. And once again it was as good as ever. Following that we hit up Rougarou once again. It was a walk-on and the train was only about half-full which was nice because it allowed my brother and I to have a row to ourselves and spread out. We sure were crammed in there the first time around. No headbanging this time, which combined with the spreading out made it a more enjoyable experience the 2nd time around. Afterwards we did Iron Dragon 1 more time before heading down to Raptor. Raptor's sign advertised a 1 hour wait and we ended up waiting closer to 1.5 hours. While in line my feet and legs were really starting to get sore. I held up pretty well day 1 but it was starting to take it's toll at this point. By the time we got off the ride, the line had grown considerably and the estimated wait time sign had been updated to show a 2 hour wait. "2 hours? For Raptor? Oh man, it's going to be busy today" we said. But thankfully that was our longest wait of the entire trip. Following Raptor we headed over to GK for one last ride on it. I tried the Plinko game this time and didn't win I did win a stuffed Angry Birds toy though which I gave to the first youngster I saw. I hope he enjoyed it! Thankfully the line wasn't too long (about an hour) so it wasn't the end of the world that I didn't win the Fast Lane pass. Anyway, we chose the left side again and rode in the very back row. The crew was on point once again, but this time the girl working in the back was angrily yelling at people to get off the station every time it unloaded. If people were lolly-gagging bigtime that's one thing; but to start yelling without giving them a reasonable amount of time was a little overboard IMO. Even the 3rd time around, we still absolutely loved this ride. I'm not sure what the general consensus is amongst enthusiasts, but I'd place this right up there among my favorite coasters ever. Coming out of the GK exit I thought I'd try the "cheese on a stick". Bad decision. I thought it was awful. The cornmeal breading part was fine; fine enough to where I'd have confidence in ordering a corn dog at CP if I ever felt so inclined. But the cheese part was extremely disappointing. It was basically just a flavorless goo. It not only didn't taste like cheese; it didn't taste like anything! Lesson learned. Following that we headed over to Wicked Twister, which we passed on day 1 after seeing a 45 minute estimated wait time. It was only a few cycles on day 2 so we rode it and both enjoyed it. Afterwards we decided that 45 minutes would have been worth it as well. At this point we were both wearing down and decided to ride TTD and call it a day afterwards. We expected a long wait but it ended up only being an hour if that. We got excited when the train in front of us seemed to BARELY clear the top of the hill, but alas the elusive roll-back remained that way. It was only about 2:30 when we headed towards the exit, but we had done enough. It was a great trip and one that we need to take more often than once every several years. My wife said she wouldn't mind doing a Put-in Bay/Cedar Point trip next summer, so hopefully I'll be back sooner than later!

We ended up getting in 3 night rides. One would have been Maverick, but it was down all day :/ Instead we did Magnum, then went all the way up to GK and were going to hit TTD on our way back but it went down right as we walked up to it (it ran from noon until then, which from what I understand is a pretty good day for TTD) so we tried Magnum again on our way back to Breakers. Ended up on the 2nd-to-last train of that for the night. Overall a great day outside of Maverick's issues (which I dearly hope is open today), might do a TR later. Thanks again everyone for the input.

Thanks for the input! I'm sure nothing there will match Beast or Banshee at night, but at least it sounds like there are some good options.

Hello all! It's been a while...hope you all are doing well! My brother and I are heading up to Cedar Point tomorrow and will be staying at the newly renovated Hotel Breakers. Exciting stuff for sure! Anyway, I've never been in the park at night, so I was wondering if anyone had an opinion on what are some of the best night ride experiences in that park? I know they have that Luminosity show, but we'll be looking for more of a "thrill" once the sun goes down. I know the park will only be dark for about an hour or so, but I'd still like to take advantage of some night riding while I can! I posted this question on PointBuzz, but that forum is nowhere near as active as this one so I thought I'd try here as well!

Great call on the waiting for water slides. Near the top I will occasionally look straight down over the railing, then remember that I am afraid of heights and will start to shimmy my way towards the exact middle of the steps or platform.

The roller coastery type ride at the top of Stratosphere that gives you the false sensation that you are about to plunge down off the tower is the most thrilling ride I've experienced by a pretty wide margin. You are WAY up there.

That was my initial thought also, however I'm sure they determined that this was the safest way to evac. Or at least I would hope.

There are things about both parks I like, so if I'm vacationing in Orlando I'm hitting both up for several days for sure. For WDW, I personally DON'T want it changing too much for selfish reasons, that being nostalgia. I don't care if some rides or areas become dated, because I love reliving childhood memories. I think their pace of updating things is perfect. Also, I didn't care for the movie but an Avatar land could be mind-blowing if done right, and I have plenty of confidence that it will. Universal is awesome too, but in a different way. They nailed some pretty cool thrill rides. While some of the nostalgic ones are gone now, they've been replaced with what appear to be home runs. And while I'm no Potter fan, they seemed to have built a pretty authentic recreation that'll keep people coming back for a long time.

If I had to guess, I'd say "thousands upon thousands" is a gross overstatement of how much revenue this policy generates for the park, and whatever the number actually is appears to have been surpassed by the negative publicity.Not a gross overstatement in the least bit. If anything, thousands upon thousands underestimates the true impact of under 48" pass vs. over 48". We constantly discuss upset parents because their child cannot get onto a ride due to height. This falls into the same exact catagory.Just in the restauraunt business alone, families will make children "younger" to either get a free meal or a discounted meal. The true gross overstatement would be to believe this will have such a negative impact because people refuse to not only ignore the details but refuse to accept them even after becoming aware of them. If the park gave in to everything because a select few insisted on ignoring the details, the park would lose so much $$ it would cease to exist as we know it. How many kids with season passes do you think cross the 48 inch threshold during the season? Methinks your guess is way on the high side. Either that or you don't understand the price difference between Junior and Regular. Because I'd put it in the very low thousands at most. No one is saying the park should give in on everything. But there's a fine line between standing your ground and bringing negative publicity to the park, and this issue quite obviously crossed over that line. For MAYBE a couple thousand bucks.

If I had to guess, I'd say "thousands upon thousands" is a gross overstatement of how much revenue this policy generates for the park, and whatever the number actually is appears to have been surpassed by the negative publicity.Edit: Also, I think your point that everyone needs to see the park's side of the issue is a PR pipe dream. I certainly understand the park's side of the story. But you have to pick your battles.

Yeah but you still gotta ride MF at least once. Count me in with the others who have said they'd prefer more tiers for Fast Lane, including a single use option.

Interesting, of all the different ways I tried to say it in my head I don't think that was one of them at any point. Thanks.

One thing I've always wondered... how is "Geauga" pronounced?

That's the thing -- we're talking literally only a few hundred dollars, MAYBE into the low-thousands, over the course of a season. That's nothing to Kings Island. They probably throw that much away in food waste over the course of just a few days, or less. Why open yourself up to potential (now realized) bad publicity over something so menial?

Here's the issue with that cold response. If a child was of junior height for 95% of the season, they only had access to the junior experience during that time. Why should the parent have to pay the upgrade price to an adult for an entire season? At some point, there will be a child that has used their pass all season, and then they're forced to buy the adult upgrade on their last visit of the year. You never want to put your customer at a disadvantage like that. If Kings Island really wants to pinch pennies, then they could prorate the upgrade cost over the time of the season. If there is 30% of the season left, then the parent would be charged 30% of the upgrade price to an adult. However, this would need to be clearly stated when buying a junior pass, and it's still of debatable customer service. The park would make out better financially if they followed the procedure I previously mentioned. You bring up some great points, and that's actually not a bad compromise IMO. As others have said, I understand both sides. KI wants to get the money they feel they deserve from kids who grow into being able to ride some of the "adult" rides during the season, while parents don't want to pay more for their child's pass than they already have. However if you're KI, you should use common sense. If they don't force kids to upgrade in midseason once they reach a certain height, they miss out on what, a few hundred dollars per year max in aggregate from all the kids with season passes who hit that height mark during the season? Instead someone goes to the media and I notice this story 4 different times on my Facebook feed this morning from parents who have "shared" it. Really really dumb move by KI in my opinion to enforce this and defend the policy to the media.

Everyone prepare your torches and pitchforks, because I'm sure this post is probably going to rustle some jimmies. But I've never been one to hold back my opinions just because they're unpopular.Cedar Point has a fun, dynamic, and thrilling Dinn woodie with good length, a beautiful lattice structure that looks phenomenal on the skyline, intimidating heights and speeds, and relatively short lines even on busy days. Beast is a solid woodie, but throwing aside nostalgia, historical importance, and classic status, and judging the ride purely on the merits of the ride itself as it stands today with no regard for historical significance, I think Mean Streak is a vastly more fun and thrilling ride with far better pacing. And The Beast has given me many rides that are far, FAR rougher than ANYTHING I've ever experienced on Mean Streak. It needs new lube on the rails because it shrieks like a Banshee the entire cycle, but it really isn't nearly as rough as people like to claim. Honestly, every time I've ridden it, I've found it to be smooth and pleasant. The same cannot be said about The Beast, not by a long shot. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE The Beast. It is one of my all time favorite coasters. But there are better woodies out there, and in my opinion, there are actually three superior woodies in Ohio alone. That's funny, because my last few rides on The Beast have felt like glass. None of those are on wheel seats, and each one has been unbelievably smooth. Meanwhile the only times I've ridden Mean Steak were unbearable, even when avoiding wheel seats. The only ride that compared to it in roughness was Son of Beast, which I actually found to be about the same in roughness as Mean Streak. I haven't rode it since they made improvements as some on here have claimed, but it's almost inconceivable to me that someone could find The Beast to be a lot rougher than Mean Streak.

Everyone prepare your torches and pitchforks, because I'm sure this post is probably going to rustle some jimmies. But I've never been one to hold back my opinions just because they're unpopular.Cedar Point has a fun, dynamic, and thrilling Dinn woodie with good length, a beautiful lattice structure that looks phenomenal on the skyline, intimidating heights and speeds, and relatively short lines even on busy days. Beast is a solid woodie, but throwing aside nostalgia, historical importance, and classic status, and judging the ride purely on the merits of the ride itself as it stands today with no regard for historical significance, I think Mean Streak is a vastly more fun and thrilling ride with far better pacing. And The Beast has given me many rides that are far, FAR rougher than ANYTHING I've ever experienced on Mean Streak. It needs new lube on the rails because it shrieks like a Banshee the entire cycle, but it really isn't nearly as rough as people like to claim. Honestly, every time I've ridden it, I've found it to be smooth and pleasant. The same cannot be said about The Beast, not by a long shot. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE The Beast. It is one of my all time favorite coasters. But there are better woodies out there, and in my opinion, there are actually three superior woodies in Ohio alone. That's funny, because my last few rides on The Beast have felt like glass. None of those are on wheel seats, and each one has been unbelievably smooth. Meanwhile the only times I've ridden Mean Steak were unbearable, even when avoiding wheel seats. The only ride that compared to it in roughness was Son of Beast, which I actually found to be about the same in roughness as Mean Streak. I haven't rode it since they made improvements as some on here have claimed, but it's almost inconceivable to me that someone could find The Beast to be a lot rougher than Mean Streak.