UncleHenry Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 I'm sorry, but I don't believe any of you. There are saftey clearances on ALL rides and if you could touch the sides of the tunnel, the STATE OF OHIO inspectors would make them take it down or move it. Just like they made Cedar Point put new concrete under the Magnum becaude it was sinking (another buch of bulls**t). See a rider come back with her hands all bloody from hitting the side wall of the tunnel. Then tell me it's bull****. Hands up are fine usually. Hands to the side is a problem. There is a reason they have the signs saying to keep your hands inside. It's not just there for decoration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 I know for a fact that your hand can touch the tunnel that covers the helix. Lets just say that I no longer hold my hands up on The Beast anymore. Keep in mind, that it is against Ohio law to disobey any written, or verbalized warning with regards to a ride. If charged, you could face a misdemeanor, per the Ohio Revised Code. Section 1711.551 of the Revised Code requires that riders must obey all warnings and directions regarding this ride and behave in a manner that will not cause or contribute to injury to themselves or others. Failure to comply is a misdemeanor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loginmike Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Old topic I know but I was surprised to learn last night that it is completely possible to not only touch the helix tunnel but I am certain it is possible to be injured. Edit: took out details so as not to get anyone in trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benred23 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 You know what the sign says.. "The Beast is always lurking in Ambush.." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheikra_rocks Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 If you sit on the right side of the train, you can ride with your arms and hands extended straight up above your head going through the tunnel, and have plenty of clearance. If you sit on the left side of the train, you can not do that due to the angle of the left sided bank in the first tunnel of the helix. If you ride The Beast enough, eventually you will see someone smack the tunnel wall. Last season I seen someone stand and smack their hand on the entrance to the tunnel. Afterward, the guy was in the restroom washing the blood off his hand, and cradling his hand in pain. He was laughing about it like it was a bragging right! I reported it to security, but they failed to do anything about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerNut Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Racer was built before Beast, anyone got hurt on the roof of Racer? Thunder Road's roof is high enough no one hurts their hand on it. Carowinds has removed all the tunnels except for Goldrusher and Afterburn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I guess I'm that short...I have my hands up the whole time in either seat... Ah well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loginmike Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 It was from the left seat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Not to be that guy, but... It is a violation of Ohio State Law to put your hands up on The Beast. That said, I think many of us will openly plea guilty to that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondbill Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I saw a guy have a chunk taken out of his left hand in the left seat when they were filming for Insane Coaster Wars, he hit the side wall with it. I am a repeat offender as well and have had no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Mr. Deters would argue that there was not a pull through done and show videos of parks doing pull throughs with their recent additions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster_junky Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 ^When the structure surrounding the helix was built that wasn't required by law, therefore it's grandfathered in. Kind of like, someone doesn't have to update their house from 1950 every time the building codes change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Grandfathered? Really? I learn the darnest things here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I saw a guy have a chunk taken out of his left hand in the left seat when they were filming for Insane Coaster Wars, he hit the side wall with it. I am a repeat offender as well and have had no issues. I was there that day. I don't remember that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster_junky Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Terp, it isn't? I would have sworn I actually read that on this site, with no rebuttals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I am not aware of grandfathering when it comes to safety requirements. Numerous retrofits and changes have been made to coasters and trains over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malem Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 It is a violation of Ohio State Law to put your hands up on The Beast. Tell the people in promotional photos on the park's website. https://www.visitkingsisland.com/images/rides/beast_slide_2.jpg It's a violation of Ohio law to disregard written safety instructions, which don't directly address putting hands up. (Putting them over the side of the train is another matter.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoe124 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 The day after Banshees announcement we rode beast and a great horned owl flew right in front if the train on the straightaway before the last curve before the 2nd lift. It flew out of the way just in time and everyone freaked out lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Malem: So the recorded announcement isn't an operator's instructions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Having a rule and enforcing it are two different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerNut Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 It is a violation of Ohio State Law to put your hands up on The Beast.Tell the people in promotional photos on the park's website. https://www.visitkingsisland.com/images/rides/beast_slide_2.jpg[/qoute] We were told at the Afterburn shoot that show that we Had to hold on to the safety bars on the harness or the footage couldnt be used. This came out of the PR rep at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 KI asks for the same... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malem Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Ohio's law only mentions written instructions. Is one of the written instructions to follow operators' verbal instructions? In any case, I think it would come down to one's definition of "inside" the train. The occupant area is generally understood to extend up beyond the top of the seat. Riders and amusement parks recognize putting hands up as a common behavior. It would be extremely easy to include an instruction either to keep arms down or to hold on at all times. The Beast's written and verbal instructions include neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 On shaggys video of him and some news guy riding Diamondback the news guy took his hands off the restraint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Malem: No, Ohio law does not require ONLY adherence to written warnings and directions. This is a common misunderstanding. That's (1). See (2): http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/1711.551 There is no legal advice intended for a specific situation or client contained herein. The author is not engaged in the private practice of law in Ohio, the District of Columbia or any United State. You should seek the services of a competent attorney in your jurisdiction if you have, or think you may have, a legal problem. Certain situations vary from state to state, and rules are different outside the United States of America. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieninja Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 It's human nature to want to do something someone tells you not to. I think a lot of people try to reach out only because of the warnings. If we ever have a Winterfest again, I want to see signage warning people not to lick the poles. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanna Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 My cousin was lucky, there was no blood or damage, just a gasp of surprise that he actually brushed the tunnel. I was seated next to him. It must have been just his fingertips that hit. When we pulled into the station, he showed his hand, but there was no blood, just redness. He's not the type to tempt fate, he's really easy going and not a show-off. He's just very tall. We make sure I'm in the short seat now when we ride The Beast together, just in case. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Not only is all this true...but I nicked my finger on The Beast's helix while riding Vortex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 While on the subject, does anyone on KIC have pictures of inside of the actual helix structure or directly under them? One of those few things I've never been able to go look at directly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 While on the subject, does anyone on KIC have pictures of inside of the actual helix structure or directly under them? One of those few things I've never been able to go look at directly I believe that I have some pictures like that somewhere, I'll look, and If I find them I will be sure to post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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