Hey just thought id share this with everyone. Just about every ride that was at GL is now listed for sale on http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/

I noticed Double Loop, Villian, Raging Wolf Bobs, Beaver Land Mine Ride, The Big Dipper, Grizzly Run, Time Warp, and Im sure there are many others. Kinda sad cause I had heard rumors of the Beaver Land Mine Ride going to Cedar Point with all the newer kiddy rides for a possible renovation of the childrens area. I was also hopeing to maybe see Time Warp or at least one decent flat ride make it to Kings Island

It seems to me that it would be more beneficial financially to move some of those rides to other parks rather than sell them all. I mean do you sell a ride at 1/4 of normal cost (est.) or do you spend a little money and get a new ride for one of your parks for half the price. It just seems like there would be more to gain by relocating more. I know Cedar Fair is in debt but seems like you could get out of it quicker if your parks were doing better rather than taking everything to the pawn shop so to speak.

It seems to me that it would be more beneficial financially to move some of those rides to other parks rather than sell them all. I mean do you sell a ride at 1/4 of normal cost (est.) or do you spend a little money and get a new ride for one of your parks for half the price. It just seems like there would be more to gain by relocating more. I know Cedar Fair is in debt but seems like you could get out of it quicker if your parks were doing better rather than taking everything to the pawn shop so to speak.

I totally agree. It would be cheaper to move the old rides from GL to CP, KI, and others and introduce them as "new" rides than sell the old rides and then spend money on new rides for CP, KI, and others.

^ While it would make sense from a financial standpoint, those rides really are not worth getting moved to another CF park, with the exception of Big Dipper.

Other than the Dipper, none have a big enough draw to warrent a move.

I noticed the Villain and RWBs, and there trains have put at KI,

Could this be a sign of one of them coming to KI?

Why would they sell it to SFNE (for example,) and have the trains at KI?

I smell something big!

Villain and Raging Wolf Bobs are being sold WITHOUT their trains.

So, even if their trains are at Kings Island, you smell something else...

oh, sorry, that was the day old cheese I smelt.

Your right, Interp, I looked that over. Parks can buy there own trains.

Well, given the huge expense of buying trains, the high labor cost and transportation cost of relocating a wooden coaster and the relative economy of buying new wooden coasters as opposed to relocating an existing one (especially given modern design standards and safety constraints), not selling the trains with the coasters makes it far less likely the coasters will sell. . .or sell for very much other than the scrap value. Meanwhile, Cedar Fair can soothe those who wanted the coasters relocated but didn't have the wherewithal or knowledge to do so...we tried to sell them. See? Really, we did!

Note, however, that Big Dipper is offered WITH its trains...Those trains are rare, and to get them, at least for now, you must also buy the coaster.

So what your saying is, is that it's easier to Buy new that relocated old, and Cedar Fair took advantege?

I'm saying Cedar Fair wants to maximize its advantages, as any company would...in both economic return and public image. When you can do both at the same time, so much the better!

Ahh, exactly.

Now again, I saw big Dipper for sale up there so I don't know, but,

The Big Dipper is the oldest roller Coaster in Ohio, and the 11th oldest in the world,

Don't you think Cedar Fair would want to keep a coaster like that?

But it's also great value, so from an economic standpoint, it would be great to sell it,

So It Comes down to does CF want money that could turn into customers or customers that could turn into money?

(I could have my own Point-Counterpoint show!)

I kinda would have liked to see Time Warp, a new flat ride and a bathroom be enough to make X-Base it's own area. Alone no none of the rides left have enough value as "NEW" rides in another park but if it is enough to make a new area...?

I smell something else, (And I'm sure it's not day-old cheese)

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...heels/index.php

I don't think I see Geauga Lake's Ferris Wheel on that list.

Or El-Dorado

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...heels/index.php

I don't think I see Geauga Lake's Ferris Wheel on that list.

Or El-Dorado

Yeah!!! Maybe we're getting the Wheel!!

Yea! YEA! And we can Remove IJST to make room for it!!!!!!!!!!!

I also noticed Head-Spin isn't on that list. hmmm KD?

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...eout-mj964.html

this is from GL

Hey just thought id share this with everyone. Just about every ride that was at GL is now listed for sale on http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/

I noticed Double Loop, Villian, Raging Wolf Bobs, Beaver Land Mine Ride, The Big Dipper, Grizzly Run, Time Warp, and Im sure there are many others. Kinda sad cause I had heard rumors of the Beaver Land Mine Ride going to Cedar Point with all the newer kiddy rides for a possible renovation of the childrens area. I was also hopeing to maybe see Time Warp or at least one decent flat ride make it to Kings Island

I agree. A decent flat ride would be a nice addition to KI. Something that is similar to a flat ride that they may have had in the early 80's.

The skylab, haily's comet, ferris wheel, etc. They need something like that, however more bold to fit the 21 century. Old tech and new tech must meet.

Just my opinion even if it is odd.

Hey just thought id share this with everyone. Just about every ride that was at GL is now listed for sale on http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/

I noticed Double Loop, Villian, Raging Wolf Bobs, Beaver Land Mine Ride, The Big Dipper, Grizzly Run, Time Warp, and Im sure there are many others. Kinda sad cause I had heard rumors of the Beaver Land Mine Ride going to Cedar Point with all the newer kiddy rides for a possible renovation of the childrens area. I was also hopeing to maybe see Time Warp or at least one decent flat ride make it to Kings Island

I agree. A decent flat ride would be a nice addition to KI. Something that is similar to a flat ride that they may have had in the early 80's.

The skylab, haily's comet, ferris wheel, etc. They need something like that, however more bold to fit the 21 century. Old tech and new tech must meet.

Just my opinion even if it is odd.

O.K..... I know Skylab was not an early 80's ride. I also know that Haily's comet came from Coney Island. (Sometimes I just get lost in my thoughts.....)

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...eout-mj964.html

this is from GL

Along with....

Hay Bayler

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...horn-mj969.html

Balloon Race

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...race-mj954.html

Scrambler

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...bler-mj959.html

Sea Dragon

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...agon-mj960.html

Tea Cups

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...-cup-mj956.html

Time Warp

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...rter-sp965.html

Clown Ride

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...ound-kd957.html

Spider

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...ider-mj958.html

Grizzly River Run

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...ride-mj962.html

Balloon Spin

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...usel-kd955.html

And....

-Double loop

-Raging Wolf Bobs

-Villain

-Big Dipper

-Beaver Land Mine Ride

Note:

Head Spin

El-Dorado

Americana

RipCord

Shipwreck falls

Texas Twister

Carousel

Yo Yo

Thriller Bee's

KIDWORKS kidde rides

Are not on the "For Sale" site

See also:

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/200...mp;Profile=1099

AND

http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx...;provider=gnews

You might want to read the second one first....

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...eout-mj964.html

this is from GL

Along with....

Hay Bayler

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...horn-mj969.html

Balloon Race

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...race-mj954.html

Scrambler

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...bler-mj959.html

Sea Dragon

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...agon-mj960.html

Tea Cups

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...-cup-mj956.html

Time Warp

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...rter-sp965.html

Clown Ride

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...ound-kd957.html

Spider

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...ider-mj958.html

Grizzly River Run

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...ride-mj962.html

Balloon Spin

http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/used-rid...usel-kd955.html

And....

-Double loop

-Raging Wolf Bobs

-Villain

-Big Dipper

-Beaver Land Mine Ride

Note:

Head Spin

El-Dorado

Americana

RipCord

Shipwreck falls

Texas Twister

Carousel

Yo Yo

Thriller Bee's

KIDWORKS kidde rides

Are not on the "For Sale" site

Well rumor has it that at least one other ride from GL will debut at KD in 2008,possibly thriller bees but I'm setting my hopes on Americana.Headspin is rumored to be replacing HSXLC in 2009.

Kings Island (and every major amusement park) should have a ferris wheel. But I don't see one coming to KI anytime soon.

See also:

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/200...mp;Profile=1099

AND

http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx...;provider=gnews

You might want to read the second one first....

So Help me SOMEBODY BETTER BUY BIG DIPPER!

If that ride does not sell I will never leave My Room again!

So Help me SOMEBODY BETTER BUY BIG DIPPER!

If that ride does not sell I will never leave My Room again!

And if you don't do your homework, or your chores, mom and dad will make sure you don't leave your room either.

Seriously, sit back and think about it...

If removing and reconstructing BD was that easy, CF would not be selling it.

And on top of that, if it was easy, another park would have jumped at the chance to buy it. But still, no takers. I think there are many things behind the scenes that none of us will ever know. Perhaps due to BD being as old as it is, parts are difficult to come by.

I think you had better buy it, jacksonpki, for your sake!

I just might do that.

http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/news/section...article=3101643

If you listen to the audio clip attached to this article, she says if the rides don't sell there is STILL a chance they could be relocated to other CF parks.

Maybe there just trying to see if they can get some quick cash, and if they don' sell they will relocate them.

Ferris Wheel 2008 Hopeful