BoddaH1994 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Being a forum member on KIC carries a little more responsibility than it does with most other theme park fan sites. As many of you know, we have an exclusive agreement with Cox Ohio Publishing, which means that our site is feed through a live RSS feed to their eight local newspapers. As a result of this, KICentral is watched very closely by Kings Island, Cedar Fair, and the local media. KIC has always been dedicated to allowing people to share their thoughts, opinions, and rumors on this site, which is something that we love to read and hear about. Recently, there's been a rash of people claiming that certain rumors are "Confirmed" when in fact nothing is confirmed until it is released by the park. We came to the agreement with our media contacts, Kings Island, and Cedar Fair that anyone claiming to have CONFIRMED information from an inside source must supply the name of their source within their post. Simply put -- it eliminates a lot of the hearsay that the park has to deal with from false "confirmations" and sets the rule that if your "source" doesn't want their name posted with the information, then you know that the information is either false, or not for public display. Remember that the general rule of the internet is that you must assume that anything you post on the internet can be read by any person, at any time, forever. If you work at the park and you overhear something, don't forget that your boss, and your boss's boss, and your boss's boss's boss will likely read your post. Again, rumors are just that -- rumors. Rumors and speculation are always welcome, however if you claim to have heard information from an inside source, or claim that your information is confirmed, you must supply your source. Per TOS -- Effective Immediately: 28 January 2008, 7:33pm EST Best Regards, Ryan Post any questions below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Butcher Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 All I can say is, this is long awaited! All of the "confirmed" rumors have seemingly got out of hand quite recently. I applaud KIC for adopting this policy, it makes the forums much more respectable! No longer will I have to sift through pages of unsupported rumors to get to the quality insights that many on this board have to share. Great job KIC! Kudos admins and mods! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH13TEEN Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 ^ I have to agree with Cory Buthcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoast19 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I also have to give kudos to KIC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIfan73 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 This should be interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubaman Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I agree with Corey Butcher. Even though I love the gossiping and such, it really sets this site above many others. I applaud you for this very much. *Claps* So, if they have "confirmed" sources do they just have to confirm it to the mods, or post it for all to see? Also, does this effect things such as pictures taken inside the park during the off season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 I agree with Corey Butcher. Even though I love the gossiping and such, it really sets this site above many others. I applaud you for this very much. *Claps* So, if they have "confirmed" sources do they just have to confirm it to the mods, or post it for all to see? Also, does this effect things such as pictures taken inside the park during the off season? Nope, must be posted in the topic. Photos taken fall under the same rule. The source must be stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erosarrow05 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 This is a little weird to me. This website is hardly the only one to discuss matters relating to Kings Island. A simple google of "Kings Island" will yeild a high amount of enthusiast websites. So why Cedar Fair initiated this with strictly KIC is a little perplexing. In essence, to me, all this means is that the "confirmed" by anonymous source posts will go to the "other" websites. I really dont see this doing anything but moving those conversations to another site. ... just my thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianBeatle Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Ryan, Thank you for that post. Like the eight words I always tell my children, to the point that they know them by heart: "Don't believe everything you read on the internet"......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 This policy was not put in place to tell people not to post rumors or things they heard. That would be destroying the reason many people come to this site. We are just asking users not to put "confirmed" or any synonyms of "confirmed" until it is said by a official park representative, Ryan, or myself (not calling Ryan or myself official park spokesmen.) I will not go into detail about what happened but it truly could have been avoided by non-official people making official or confirmed like posts and threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalefan Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I am glad this was said. We have a guy saying this rumor thing on a post for a 2009 rumor coaster. He was saying that he had inside info but 4 or 5 called him out on it saying its not true. Glad the mods are getting more harder on the rumors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Hey gang, I heard from Ryan that we have to post the name of our source when we post something that we claim is "Confirmed". And that is Confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 This is a little weird to me. This website is hardly the only one to discuss matters relating to Kings Island. A simple google of "Kings Island" will yeild a high amount of enthusiast websites. So why Cedar Fair initiated this with strictly KIC is a little perplexing. In essence, to me, all this means is that the "confirmed" by anonymous source posts will go to the "other" websites. I really dont see this doing anything but moving those conversations to another site. ... just my thought... Park is just trying to track down information that is released or discovered prior to the official release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholderfield Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 so basically, unless you can put "confirmed by [insert park employee's name here", you should say "i heard this rumor the other day ______".......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Maple The Tree King Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 This is a little weird to me. This website is hardly the only one to discuss matters relating to Kings Island. A simple google of "Kings Island" will yeild a high amount of enthusiast websites. So why Cedar Fair initiated this with strictly KIC is a little perplexing. In essence, to me, all this means is that the "confirmed" by anonymous source posts will go to the "other" websites. I really dont see this doing anything but moving those conversations to another site. ... just my thought... I doubt that the conversation will really drift to other sites that much, this isn't eliminating all rumor discussion, it's just asking people to to confirm their source if they want to make a claim that a rumor is 100 percent confirmed. If you had been watching the site closely the past few months you would notice that there have been a lot of posts claiming that something is confirmed with absolutely no source and by a member who has hardly been on the website long enough to build up any kind of reputable reputation. For examples it would prevent a user from doing something like this... Randomtroll05 - "I have a second cousin inside the park who can confirm that WWC will be removed for the re-location of Gemini J.R." I think posts like that have confused certain parties that ryan alludes to, because they know KI is usually a very reputable source... which means that our site is feed through a live RSS feed to their eight local newspapers. As a result of this, KICentral is watched very closely by Kings Island, Cedar Fair, and the local media. It's just asking people to put up or shut up when bringing up a rumor. This site usually has the best updates from the park anyways, I enjoyed their exclusive updates of Firehawk last season, so I'll stay here. Rumors and speculation are always welcome, however if you claim to have heard information from an inside source, or claim that your information is confirmed, you must supply your source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 so basically, unless you can put "confirmed by [insert park employee's name here", you should say "i heard this rumor the other day ______".......... Exactly! It may seem trivial, but it makes a world of difference in credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastfreak Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 CONFIRMED: Ryan and Dane lay the smack down on people who make up silly rumors! Source: KICentral.com! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKlockster Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 What this also does is let them fire anyone who is dumb enough to say some secret info in front of someone who posts on here. But what about photoshop tom foolery? I guess no more photoshopping dragster in behind racer. What's the point in a photoshop prank if you have to admit its not real. And lastly - is the Dippin Dots guy considered a source? He is a reliable source of highly questionable content (except when he's not reliable, or the content in question lacks questionability). Well I think overall it is a good idea. You should have to be able to prove it if you're going to say "Confirmed". Cause otherwise it isn't confirmed. Just as long as you don't ban discussion of all rumors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I think photoshop is alright unless your trying to forge it as a true media depiction or release by the park, which in that case is a debate of legality and ethics. However, I think we should have a photo shop competition and topic again! I have gotten better at since our last topic when I was the "MS paint Master!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastfreak Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I hope there is some difference from obviously fake rumors and stuff thats OMG REAL!!!!!!! Cause ya know Racer is being replaced with villain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholderfield Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 so basically, unless you can put "confirmed by [insert park employee's name here", you should say "i heard this rumor the other day ______".......... Exactly! It may seem trivial, but it makes a world of difference in credibility. yeah i definitely understand, especially from CF's point of view and a media POV.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Kinda Guy Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Question: Lets say I have a grudge out for Ride Op John Doe. Can't I just come on here and say "I have confirmed information from John Doe at The Racer that we are getting a 900 foot tall Intamin," even though I never heard that specifically from John Doe?" And if the info happens to be correct, how is John Doe protected even though he never said anything to begin with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Odd not seeing updates this year on KIC like last year. All well guess it would be nice to have confirmed information. Just wish Kings Island and Cedar Fair would not take so long to just say what the information is for the next season. I mean if you have a season pass why not just send something out like the park has done in the past? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I can understand that KIC does not want its members to use the word “confirmed” unless it is backed up which will never happen, It makes things a lot less confusing. If I am correct KIC is not an official site for KI or Cedar Fair therefore everything on here is not or should never be taken as official unless an employee of KI or Cedar Fair with authority comes on here and makes a statement themselves or designates someone to do so. That goes for every forum board out there unless it is an official company site then everything is unofficial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 So will the rumor form stay open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Picard Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 So will the rumor form stay open? They are not telling you not to post rumors. They are saying you can't post that you have confirmed info from someone working at the park. If you do you have to say who told you this info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Thank God, Ryan! I was getting tired of hearing Confirmed: My unlce's brother's niece's 3rd cousin says there will be a ____ft. coaster added to KI. It was getting old. ^The rumor section will stay open. Just admit you're starting or spreading a rumor and not saying it's confirmed. Don't know if it is, but KIC should be the #1 Unofficial Guide to Kings Island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake54321 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I can understand that KIC does not want its members to use the word “confirmed” unless it is backed up which will never happen, It makes things a lot less confusing. If I am correct KIC is not an official site for KI or Cedar Fair therefore everything on here is not or should never be taken as official unless an employee of KI or Cedar Fair with authority comes on here and makes a statement themselves or designates someone to do so. That goes for every forum board out there unless it is an official company site then everything is unofficial. I was thinking the same thing, this whole thing sounds silly. This is an UN-OFFICIAL KI Website, if you believe everything you read on the internet (unless it's from an "official" website) you have something wrong with you. This information is found in THIS WEBSITES DISCLAIMER : "Materials Submitted by Other Users. We cannot and do not review every posting made in our chat rooms, forums, and other areas available for public postings. You may well read any given posting before anyone on our staff does. Take what you find with a grain of salt. You can expect these areas to include information and opinions from a variety of individuals and organizations other than us. We do not endorse or guarantee the accuracy of any posting, regardless of whether the posting comes from a user, from a celebrity or "expert" guest, or from a member of our staff. There is no substitute for healthy skepticism and your own good judgment" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 I was thinking the same thing, this whole thing sounds silly. This is an UN-OFFICIAL KI Website, if you believe everything you read on the internet (unless it's from an "official" website) you have something wrong with you. I'm telling you... I miss the days of KIC just being for fun more and more at times like this... it was a simpler time... it was a better time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kwindshawne Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I was thinking the same thing, this whole thing sounds silly. This is an UN-OFFICIAL KI Website, if you believe everything you read on the internet (unless it's from an "official" website) you have something wrong with you. I'm telling you... I miss the days of KIC just being for fun more and more at times like this... it was a simpler time... it was a better time... And here is one of the pitfalls of the information age....whatever you post on the internet, will evenutally come back to bite you in the a$$. Lovely...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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