Aaron88stang Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Wow...So they went the opposite approach on the prices...Was that a July 4th special or the normal price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 That was offered most of the season in newspaper ads offered in out of state markets. Sound somewhat familiar? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron88stang Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 It does...but I am sure they had a much higher percentage of out of state guests. Did they even sell season passes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Yes the similarities between HRP and KK are very obvious. I am not one to refer to Wikipedia as a trusted source but they have an amazingly detailed history of HRP that is well cited, its first year failure and then the actions of the parks as FMP. The big difference between HRP and KK currently is HRP had 0 state funded support unlike KK. Link to the article here and the similarities are quite amazing, well worth the read. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freestyle_Music_Park 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Not to double post but season passes under FMP were roughly $65 when single day admission was high $30's before discounts. The similarities to KK are astounding which is why many of us in this forum keep point them out because KK is walking down the same path. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron88stang Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Yes the similarities between HRP and KK are very obvious. I am not one to refer to Wikipedia as a trusted source but they have an amazingly detailed history of HRP that is well cited, its first year failure and then the actions of the parks as FMP. The big difference between HRP and KK currently is HRP had 0 state funded support unlike KK. Link to the article here and the similarities are quite amazing, well worth the read. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freestyle_Music_Park That was a pretty interesting read. Thanks for the link. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethancoaster Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Not to double post but season passes under FMP were roughly $65 when single day admission was high $30's before discounts. The similarities to KK are astounding which is why many of us in this forum keep point them out because KK is walking down the same path. And that's how Michigan's Adventure will get a hyper-gtx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyano Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 T3 anyone any news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex lover Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Nope But on Kentucky Kingdoms Facebook they said "VERY SOON...:)" Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyano Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 The very soon makes me think 4th of July Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieseltech20 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 So, HRP had multiple Investors and a 385 million dollar loan. The park only cost 225 million dollars to build. That leaves 165 million dollars left plus investors. Yet...... They couldn't afford to advertise? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterDirected Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I really do hope the best for KK. Not only because I can have a new park to go to but competition breeds successful business strategies. Look at what what happened at E3 with Xbox and Sony in 2013. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBEW_Sparky Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 So, HRP had multiple Investors and a 385 million dollar loan. The park only cost 225 million dollars to build. That leaves 165 million dollars left plus investors. Yet...... They couldn't afford to advertise? It sounds to me like a few execs created their own Golden Parachute. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerNut Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Hard Rock Park failed for several reasons including: Location - They were smart for the location off of US501 but it was too far inland. It should have been closer to the beach. Price - For the number of attractions the park had, they were originally charging Carowinds prices or higher. Family Kingdom is Pay per Ride or wristband as was the Myrtle Beach Pavilion(c1948-2006). Freestyle ending up having to charge $17.76 for two people to get visitors to come, the problem with that is they were selling tickets below costs. Theme - The majority of beach going tourists are families, Hard Rock Park was basically an adult theme park with limited options for children. Adult humor was everywhere, all of which was removed when the park became Freestyle. Economy - I dare say this was the second biggest factor. I predicted the failure of Hard Rock Park from nearly the start of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 What do you predict for Kentucky Kingdom this time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerNut Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Given the history, complicated lease agreement, tax incentives and all the known factors. Without having seen the area around the park ever in person, I believe it could go two ways. Closure due to loss of State Support or Mismanagement by Underinvestment, as evidence of this: T3, Rides leased for 1 year(this to me was done to minimize loss if the park has last year(I may be confused on this)), Bad PR, Strange advertising practices. Or Sell by Hart & Co in a similar fashion to mide to late 90s. In my opinion, he is in the business for one reason. Buy low & Flip for profit! Either way I feel that History will repeat itself. As an Amusement Park Enthusiast, I find it fun to anazyle park's futures. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron88stang Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 T3 POV with riders. http://www.wlky.com/entertainment/gopro-video-ride-kentucky-kingdoms-t3/33967336 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex lover Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 For an SLC that looks very smooth! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 And HOW can you tell by looking, pray tell? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex lover Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 It just did not shake as much as some of the other SLC videos I have seen. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 See Son of Beast videos... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex lover Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 It's opening Saturday Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron88stang Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 It "looks" smooth I will reserve judgement until I ride it. Maybe I can make it back over there in a couple weeks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex lover Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Well I just rode the new T3 at @KentuckyKingdom and I LOVED it! #LetsGoAgain #WHAS11 Via Kelsey Duvalls Twitter https://mobile.twitter.com/KelseyDuvall/status/616656369886855168 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Is that a quote or was it you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex lover Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Is that a quote or was it you? Hang on sorry fixing itSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterDirected Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Isn't T3 the shortest SLC model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex lover Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 T3 is the 689m layout so it is the shortest. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I never wished it were longer! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 There are other differences as well. The first drop isn't as steep and the last few hills are straight rather than snaking through s-curves like the now-standard issue model does. El Condor at Walibi Holland is the closest thing to a T3 'clone' since it too is the prototype model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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