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Should Surf Dog be considered a coaster?

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Even if you used that criteria, Blazing Fury would not be a roller coaster...though it's almost unanimously agreed that it is....

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    How about Racer - is it one or two roller coasters? The park counts it as one, but what if you were to disassemble one side and ship it to another amusement park - then would it be two? Cedar Point is

^^I like that definition better.

^I'd call it a darkride, not an indoor roller coaster.

Because it has three drops at the end that are free drops, and the train is not being powered through the course there, it's technically a roller coaster. (By almost all definitions)

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Yay oldish topic... i personally think that its a coaster because it is powered somewhat but it gains a lot of momentum via gravity so i think it must be a coaster

^^ Just what I was going to say. If it was COMPLETELY powered by something than no, but it gets momentum, and I believe at one point the powering stops for a few seconds and gravity takes over.

I'm not sure on this, but I did talk to a man that once told me once it reaches the top of the "hill" its put into a "neutral" type of gear, until it reaches a proxy on the other side to drive it back up the next "hill". Since it is in a "neutral" gear it would be considered coasting... Correct?

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i consider it one because it runs on a track. (but then again so does the train) would you have considered bayern curve a coaster too?

I think it would be quite a waste of power and energy for it to use motors to push it down a hill. It would be too simple to just let gravity do its job. :rolleyes:

i consider it one because it runs on a track. (but then again so does the train) would you have considered bayern curve a coaster too?

Nope. Bayern Kerve was not a coaster, and neither was Tumblebug, which also ran on a track.

  • 1 year later...

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but is surf dog really considered a coaster? The people at rcdb don't seem to think so...

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but is surf dog really considered a coaster? The people at rcdb don't seem to think so...

Kings Island officially considers it to be one.

KI officially claims 14 coasters, counted as follows (in no particular order):

  1. Diamondback
  2. The Beast
  3. Backlot Stunt Coaster
  4. Vortex
  5. Firehawk
  6. Flight of Fear
  7. The Racer (both sides counted together as a single coaster)
  8. Adventure Express
  9. Flight Deck
  10. Invertigo
  11. The Great Pumpkin Coaster
  12. Woodstock Express
  13. Flying Ace Aerial Chase
  14. Surf Dog

I know at least as of last year, the list of trivia questions that ride ops pulled out during weather delays and short breakdowns included a question and answer that explicitly stated that the park considers Surf Dog to be a coaster. I don't recall the exact question or answer, though.

I've always heard that the park considers it to be a coaster. I absolutely do not. Sorry. If I'd consider Surf Dog a coaster, then I refuse to not count Reese's Xtreme Cup Challenge at Hersheypark as a coaster. It works totally like a coaster except the motors won't let it coast down the hills. It's like being on an endless trim brake.

...and yes...I'm guilty of believing the Camden and Conneaut Lake dark rides are coasters.

Demon Drop was never counted as a coaster in CP's coaster line-up if you want to use this as some guidance in determining whether or not Surf Dog is a coaster.

But if you read the 2011 map, I don't recall if its in the 2012 map, but it said "Planet Snoopy has more kid coasters (four) than anywhere else in the world"

I emailed them and asked them yesterday before I brought up the question on this topic...

Me: Hello rcdb I was looking at your Kings Island data and I was confused. Why isn't surf dog listed? It is one of the 4 coasters in Planet Snoopy

rcdb: I know of the ride, but don't consider it a roller coaster.

Regardless of whether it is or isn't a coaster, I still think it needs a giant surfing Snoopy on top B)

How about Racer - is it one or two roller coasters? The park counts it as one, but what if you were to disassemble one side and ship it to another amusement park - then would it be two? Cedar Point is similar with Gemini, as is Six Flags Magic Mountain with both Colossus and Superman: Escape from Krypton.

I personally don't care if they call it a roller coaster on it, but here are the facts.

I- It runs on a track that goes one way and another

II- It has a car that has two areas for seating

III- It is ran by electrical movements, a technology ran for other attractions, like a coaster (Italian Stunt Job)

IV- It has an almost replica of the Demon's (A roller coaster) track, a out and back scenario.

Now it is all up to speculation on how it is or isn't a coaster, but in a literal scenario, with all information at hand, it is by definition, a coaster by it's characteristics of an attraction.

III- It has a snoopy on top

No, it doesn't.

Well, it did, the last time I saw it, if it was removed, then I haven't seen it for awhile :blink: .

It's been like that since it was re-done, I believe....

Well, I feel like I have been thinking of the wrong thing now, where have I been?. :blink: BB1 who really doesn't go through the snoopy land.

It's been like that since it was re-done, I believe....

Well, I feel like I have been thinking of the wrong thing now, where have I been?. :blink: BB1 who really doesn't go through the snoopy land.

The Snoopy on top of Phantom Flyers?

As far as I remember, there has never been a Snoopy on top. That's one of the things I kind of missed about that ride. I loved the big Aang on top. It really added to the theming of ride. How cool would it be to have a big Snoopy? From a distance you could see him surfing along the track!

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