Beast1979 Posted April 2, 2011 Posted April 2, 2011 Even if you used that criteria, Blazing Fury would not be a roller coaster...though it's almost unanimously agreed that it is.... 1 Quote
ParkMake Posted April 2, 2011 Posted April 2, 2011 ^^I like that definition better. ^I'd call it a darkride, not an indoor roller coaster. Quote
Beast1979 Posted April 2, 2011 Posted April 2, 2011 Because it has three drops at the end that are free drops, and the train is not being powered through the course there, it's technically a roller coaster. (By almost all definitions) Quote
16gwoods Posted December 6, 2011 Posted December 6, 2011 Yay oldish topic... i personally think that its a coaster because it is powered somewhat but it gains a lot of momentum via gravity so i think it must be a coaster Quote
CoasterGeek101 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 ^^ Just what I was going to say. If it was COMPLETELY powered by something than no, but it gets momentum, and I believe at one point the powering stops for a few seconds and gravity takes over. Quote
HTCO Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 I'm not sure on this, but I did talk to a man that once told me once it reaches the top of the "hill" its put into a "neutral" type of gear, until it reaches a proxy on the other side to drive it back up the next "hill". Since it is in a "neutral" gear it would be considered coasting... Correct? Quote
DBInternational Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 i consider it one because it runs on a track. (but then again so does the train) would you have considered bayern curve a coaster too? Quote
UnrealNightmare Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 I think it would be quite a waste of power and energy for it to use motors to push it down a hill. It would be too simple to just let gravity do its job. Quote
XGatorHead 8904 Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 i consider it one because it runs on a track. (but then again so does the train) would you have considered bayern curve a coaster too? Nope. Bayern Kerve was not a coaster, and neither was Tumblebug, which also ran on a track. Quote
SonofBaconator Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but is surf dog really considered a coaster? The people at rcdb don't seem to think so... Quote
jcgoble3 Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but is surf dog really considered a coaster? The people at rcdb don't seem to think so... Kings Island officially considers it to be one. 1 Quote
Creed Bratton Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 They do? Combines elements of a roller coaster and scrambler. https://www.visitkingsisland.com/rides/Worlds-Best-Kids-Area/Surf-DogThat's the only mention of a roller coaster and Surf Dog together that I can find on the park's site. Quote
jcgoble3 Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 KI officially claims 14 coasters, counted as follows (in no particular order): Diamondback The Beast Backlot Stunt Coaster Vortex Firehawk Flight of Fear The Racer (both sides counted together as a single coaster) Adventure Express Flight Deck Invertigo The Great Pumpkin Coaster Woodstock Express Flying Ace Aerial Chase Surf Dog I know at least as of last year, the list of trivia questions that ride ops pulled out during weather delays and short breakdowns included a question and answer that explicitly stated that the park considers Surf Dog to be a coaster. I don't recall the exact question or answer, though. 1 Quote
dare-to-fly Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 I've always heard that the park considers it to be a coaster. I absolutely do not. Sorry. If I'd consider Surf Dog a coaster, then I refuse to not count Reese's Xtreme Cup Challenge at Hersheypark as a coaster. It works totally like a coaster except the motors won't let it coast down the hills. It's like being on an endless trim brake. ...and yes...I'm guilty of believing the Camden and Conneaut Lake dark rides are coasters. 3 Quote
markr Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 Demon Drop was never counted as a coaster in CP's coaster line-up if you want to use this as some guidance in determining whether or not Surf Dog is a coaster. Quote
SonofBaconator Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 But if you read the 2011 map, I don't recall if its in the 2012 map, but it said "Planet Snoopy has more kid coasters (four) than anywhere else in the world" Quote
Hank Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 I call your attention to the following.... http://rcdb.com/r.htm?ot=2&cs=278 Quote
SonofBaconator Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 I emailed them and asked them yesterday before I brought up the question on this topic... Me: Hello rcdb I was looking at your Kings Island data and I was confused. Why isn't surf dog listed? It is one of the 4 coasters in Planet Snoopy rcdb: I know of the ride, but don't consider it a roller coaster. Quote
Voicetek Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 Regardless of whether it is or isn't a coaster, I still think it needs a giant surfing Snoopy on top 3 Quote
Guest Department47 Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 How about Racer - is it one or two roller coasters? The park counts it as one, but what if you were to disassemble one side and ship it to another amusement park - then would it be two? Cedar Point is similar with Gemini, as is Six Flags Magic Mountain with both Colossus and Superman: Escape from Krypton. 4 Quote
BB1 Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 I personally don't care if they call it a roller coaster on it, but here are the facts. I- It runs on a track that goes one way and another II- It has a car that has two areas for seating III- It is ran by electrical movements, a technology ran for other attractions, like a coaster (Italian Stunt Job) IV- It has an almost replica of the Demon's (A roller coaster) track, a out and back scenario. Now it is all up to speculation on how it is or isn't a coaster, but in a literal scenario, with all information at hand, it is by definition, a coaster by it's characteristics of an attraction. Quote
jcgoble3 Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 III- It has a snoopy on top No, it doesn't. 1 Quote
BB1 Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 III- It has a snoopy on top No, it doesn't. Well, it did, the last time I saw it, if it was removed, then I haven't seen it for awhile . Quote
The Interpreter Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 As in doggone it? Terp, who likes to ask questions. 3 Quote
SonofBaconator Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 It's been like that since it was re-done, I believe.... 1 Quote
BB1 Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 It's been like that since it was re-done, I believe.... Well, I feel like I have been thinking of the wrong thing now, where have I been?. BB1 who really doesn't go through the snoopy land. Quote
CedarPointer Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 It's been like that since it was re-done, I believe.... Well, I feel like I have been thinking of the wrong thing now, where have I been?. BB1 who really doesn't go through the snoopy land. The Snoopy on top of Phantom Flyers? Quote
Voicetek Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 As far as I remember, there has never been a Snoopy on top. That's one of the things I kind of missed about that ride. I loved the big Aang on top. It really added to the theming of ride. How cool would it be to have a big Snoopy? From a distance you could see him surfing along the track! 3 Quote
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