gingerkid Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I don't know why people think that this was a fake tease. Think back to Dons post about wanting to ride The Bat again. And if Kings Island wanted to tease the public, would you think that that KI would have done something that would involve someone else noticing besides a coaster enthusiast that keeps on refreshing a page named kingsisland.com/2014 (<that includes me) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravyboat Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 i will say this thought, if this bat thingy is indeed our new toy then I'm disappointed in what the term "World Record" means. There should be 5 categories, Height, Length, # inversions, Speed and Drop. This whole "longest inverted" tallest "dive Coaster" is too granular, when did fast stop being fast and tall being tall? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 But see: http://rcdb.com/2954.htm For trademark purposes would "bat" be the same as "The Bat"? I'd say yes and Lagoon would have a winnable suit against Cedar Fair. If this is the case...then DC Comics would have a case against Lagoon park. So on and so on... "bat" and "batman" are distinctly different. There also has to be a similarity of usage. A car called a bat and a roller coaster called a bat would not infringe on each other. Two roller coasters called bat would. Two roller coasters called Diamondback and Diamond Back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I seriously doubt anyone has any serious doubt (lol) but Don has basically, through lack of words, admitted that this is a coaster. Note this conversation: https://twitter.com/KingsIslandPR/status/364491277024239616 He did not use the word "attraction" when asked about "the new coaster". I think anyone with eyes can see that it is a coaster, but does this constitute an admission? Catching up here... Lol I find it amusing he said "comb" after sending a silver comb to Fox19 last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravyboat Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Canada's Wonderland has a coaster named The Bat. Canada's Wonderland is in Canada. Does that mean California's Great America is in California, too? Or is it really in Illinois? Yes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryoj Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 i will say this thought, if this bat thingy is indeed our new toy then I'm disappointed in what the term "World Record" means. There should be 5 categories, Height, Length, # inversions, Speed and Drop. This whole "longest inverted" tallest "dive Coaster" is too granular, when did fast stop being fast and tall being tall? Just wait. I think they will be using "full circuited inverted" in there somewhere too. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malem Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Cedar Fail And it's Cedar Fair. A Cedar Fair employee once used "cedar fail" in an e-mail sent to me. My guess: bad auto-correction. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Addict Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 What? I find this to good to be true. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't believe were getting a Wing coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryoj Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 But see: http://rcdb.com/2954.htm For trademark purposes would "bat" be the same as "The Bat"? I'd say yes and Lagoon would have a winnable suit against Cedar Fair. If this is the case...then DC Comics would have a case against Lagoon park. So on and so on... "bat" and "batman" are distinctly different. There also has to be a similarity of usage. A car called a bat and a roller coaster called a bat would not infringe on each other. Two roller coasters called bat would. Two roller coasters called Diamondback and Diamond Back? Ok, I'm confused. I'd think that would be a conflict. I know companies often misspell names to create trademarks. Thats the only way I can see those two names for coasters being allowed. Well, unless six flags never trademarked diamond back. So then we have to ask has lagoon tm'ed bat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 On the subject of similarly-named coasters being a trademark violation, explain this: http://rcdb.com/69.htm http://rcdb.com/121.htm Both are operating. I've ridden both within the last couple weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Racer isn't a registered trademark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglados Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised if we got a wing coaster and or a dive machine or an invert. But I mean either they was testing out a place holder for the actual website or they're legit bring The Bat back. Witch I wouldn't be surprised at all really. Aslong as they have the old school bat commercial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheikra_rocks Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Going to take the whole capacity down a notch I see. Wild Eagle has 2 trains, but only enough room to put 1 train in the train barn. Gatekeeper has enough space for 3 trains, but only has 2 bays. KI2014 footers suggest there is room for 3 inverted or other trains in the maintenance shed, HOWEVER, 3 wing trains will not fit in that space. I do believe that 3 or 4 mini dive trains (Krake) would fit in there. I am still not convinced. I did point out the wide vertical loop which would be room for a dive machine or a wing coaster train. I still want a dive machine. LOVE hanging over the edge right before the drop! Let's face it, Ohio has just about every style of coaster EXCEPT a dive machine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnofthedead Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I dont get naming it The Bat, I think thats a diversion. Its been said on here before, the public already thinks The Bat killed people at Kings Island. I was on The Beast about a month ago and somebody said The Bat was on the other side of Vortex lol. People think its there and killing people lol. They might as well name it Son of Bat. With all the celtic tombstones, silver comb, ect. I still believe its still called Banshee. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I know this isn't a dive machine, but the term B&M uses to describe the drop away floor on Griffon is called a "comb." Fun fact. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravyboat Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Going to take the whole capacity down a notch I see. Wild Eagle has 2 trains, but only enough room to put 1 train in the train barn. Gatekeeper has enough space for 3 trains, but only has 2 bays. KI2014 footers suggest there is room for 3 inverted or other trains in the maintenance shed, HOWEVER, 3 wing trains will not fit in that space. I do believe that 3 or 4 mini dive trains (Krake) would fit in there. I am still not convinced. I did point out the wide vertical loop which would be room for a dive machine or a wing coaster train. I still want a dive machine. LOVE hanging over the edge right before the drop! Let's face it, Ohio has just about every style of coaster EXCEPT a dive machine. wouldnt putting a dive machine right next to Drop Tower be kinda redundant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantisMan Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Why fork over the money to see them this close to the announcement date? Money? Who said anything about money?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Forsaken Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 But KI/Don has made mention that this ride is "dark" in tone and nature...so, it would make absolute sense for KI to use the scary reputation associated with The Bat and harness that to build a ride that people may actually be scared to ride. This is the exact concept haunted attractions use when creating there shows. Sounds perfect to me. KI has a small reputation with dangerous rides...why not just use that and create a terrifying (but extremely safe and reliable) ride and name it after a past ride from said reputation. Brilliant theme park planning and marketing. -T. Forsaken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 ^^My point was if the past 2 announcements show any trend, than the park may over-hype the ride. Maybe they want to over hype it because it is going to cover some of the same ground as SoB and that could deter some from riding it bc they didn't like SoB. I HATED SoB but that won't deter me Also maybe they want to hype it up to attract more people to that section of AZ and draw more people in to Flight Deck I have noticed longer lines for that this year than last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheikra_rocks Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Going to take the whole capacity down a notch I see. Wild Eagle has 2 trains, but only enough room to put 1 train in the train barn. Gatekeeper has enough space for 3 trains, but only has 2 bays. KI2014 footers suggest there is room for 3 inverted or other trains in the maintenance shed, HOWEVER, 3 wing trains will not fit in that space. I do believe that 3 or 4 mini dive trains (Krake) would fit in there. I am still not convinced. I did point out the wide vertical loop which would be room for a dive machine or a wing coaster train. I still want a dive machine. LOVE hanging over the edge right before the drop! Let's face it, Ohio has just about every style of coaster EXCEPT a dive machine. wouldnt putting a dive machine right next to Drop Tower be kinda redundant? Wouldn't putting a coaster that hangs below the track right next to 2 others that hang below the track be kinda redundant? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I still want a Giga Coaster at KI, but at the point in time I don't see that happening yet! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastfan11 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Where are both of our wave pools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbowl Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 This is one of the most clever diversions I've ever seen! Although there was this "leak" I am still convinced this is an Invert. My proof is the blueprints which I still believe are legit. Now, I have a few reasons. 1. The supports found on site have the same code as on the plans. You can see this in the first two pictures. 2. The footers in the drawing match the ones that are already built. 3. The station and transfer have two parallel rows of supports like any Invert. Wing Riders have supports directly under the track, unlike this whole coaster. You can see this in the last picture Just sayin.. it's an Invert... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheikra_rocks Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Where are both of our wave pools? I forgot about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 https://www.visitkingsisland.com/2014 What a diversion... I'm not believing that at all. I will believe it if that is what is announced on Thursday lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Going to take the whole capacity down a notch I see. Wild Eagle has 2 trains, but only enough room to put 1 train in the train barn. Gatekeeper has enough space for 3 trains, but only has 2 bays. KI2014 footers suggest there is room for 3 inverted or other trains in the maintenance shed, HOWEVER, 3 wing trains will not fit in that space. I do believe that 3 or 4 mini dive trains (Krake) would fit in there. I am still not convinced. I did point out the wide vertical loop which would be room for a dive machine or a wing coaster train. I still want a dive machine. LOVE hanging over the edge right before the drop! Let's face it, Ohio has just about every style of coaster EXCEPT a dive machine. wouldnt putting a dive machine right next to Drop Tower be kinda redundant? Wouldn't putting a coaster that hangs below the track right next to 2 others that hang below the track be kinda redundant? Diamondback, Vortex, The Beast, The Racer and Stunt Coaster all have their trains on top of the track. Is that also redundant? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonface Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 "Wraith" would be a neat name for this up and coming ride. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnofthedead Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Thanks for the KIC props, guys. Can you translate the other epitaphs, please? I'd love to hear what they have to say. A Sturn Combs Not all is as it seems Molann MacAuley The work praises the man. Rough english equivalant: anything worth doing is worth doing well. O’Terpy There is no place like home O’Suhr It is the wedge itself that splits the oak. Stengel A gihra (listed on stone like a first name, is likely a term of endearment.. not 100%). The quiet are guilty O’Donoghue Nothing without effort (no pain no gain) -Closest I can come with a little google, old text books, and a dad... after a few drinks even. Werner Stengel Son of Beast Engineer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Stengel Not sure if this was posted, one of the names on the tombstones. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustbucket Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Canada's Wonderland has a coaster named The Bat. Canada's Wonderland is in Canada. Does that mean California's Great America is in California, too? Or is it really in Illinois? Well, Canada is a different country and have different trademark laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Ok new speculation, though it has probably been mentioned before. The Celtic theming and Banshee is all a diversion and could be the new attraction at CP for 2014 or a hint at a future KI coaster BUT plays into The Bat bc bats are viewed typically as creepy and have been known to hang around cemeteries That's my thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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