Diamondback restraint thoughts

[malem]

^ You do have a point. I was considering the risk of a ride system failing catastrophically.

Though Diamondback does get inspected a lot more often than a park bench. And frankly, I'm more worried about loose articles when I'm standing near the Eiffel Tower. (They'd have a lot more momentum.)

[DontWantToWait42mar0]

^ You do have a point. I was considering the risk of a ride system failing catastrophically.

Though Diamondback does get inspected a lot more often than a park bench. And frankly, I'm more worried about loose articles when I'm standing near the Eiffel Tower. (They'd have a lot more momentum.)

I'm wondering if there will be a loose change/items shield on the part of Banshee the goes over the Action Zone midway.

Just noticed that you are almost at 1,000 posts malem. Congrats!!

[malem]

^ You do have a point. I was considering the risk of a ride system failing catastrophically.

Though Diamondback does get inspected a lot more often than a park bench. And frankly, I'm more worried about loose articles when I'm standing near the Eiffel Tower. (They'd have a lot more momentum.)

I'm wondering if there will be a loose change/items shield on the part of Banshee the goes over the Action Zone midway.

Just noticed that you are almost at 1,000 posts malem. Congrats!!

That would depend on the dynamics of the ride at that point. Unlike Diamondback, there's no floor for dropped articles to collect on before the next curve.

It's hard to believe that I've posted here that many times. Now that you've brought up tallies, everyone's going to be expecting that milestone post to be something amazing. Thanks a lot.

Just as long as I don't pull a Don Helbig and stop one short.

[DontWantToWait42mar0]

All of your posts that I have read on here have been amazing brother. If anything you get a free pass on your 1k'th.

[Existential]

Do a one word post for your thousandth.

T'would be epcot.

Everyone would be rage posting.

[medford]

I was on The Beast when it hit a hawk the other day, the likely hood of that happening while sitting on a bench are close to 0, therefor sitting on a rollercoaster is much more dangerous than sitting on a bench.

[jdf21972]

i rode Diamondback 3 times on 3 different trains one front, one middle and one back, not one problem with the restraint system. ride operated smooth. Ride nights are the best time. Had a great time.

[Ride On_17]

All this talk of irrational fears and things that could happen remind me of this:

[Dieseltech20]

Someone could break into your house tonight and kill you while you sleep. I guess everyone better stop sleeping.

[YoungStud]

Diamondback has strong air in the front and back over the first half of the ride. I do like to ride in row 4 and 10 to get a mix of floater and strong air, though.

Texas Giant anxiety...LMAO! HAhahah! I love it!

Personally I only get air in the front row when the train hits the trim on the hill before the on ride photo.

Allllright Youngstud; you personally only get airtime in the front on one hill on Diamondback. You must have a gravitational problem when you ride non Intamin rides. It's that little switch in your brain, just give your head a slight smack before you ride with a beer bottle. You should be good to go.

Wife and I went to the park again for a couple hours. Saw two guys get kicked off the ride for obesity. The guy doing the spiel said "poor guys".

Rode on brown train second row. They had to check lap bars three times. I got zero airtime again. I will volunteer to ride without a lap bar. I swear to god I get more airtime on millennium's drop, two hills, and bunny hop than I get on Diamondback.

My rankings of the b&m megas I have been on:

1. Goliath

2. Apollos chariot

3. behemoth

4. Leviathan

5. Nitro

6. Intimidator

7. Raging Bull

8. Diamondback

[Ki Man]

I rode Diamondback the other day. Had no troubles. It ran like it normally does; it's got -G moments and floater air. It's an antigravity machine. Honestly I like Raging Bull, Goliath, and Diamondback all just about the same.

[aj74205]

Rode on brown train second row. They had to check lap bars three times. I got zero airtime again. I will volunteer to ride without a lap bar. I swear to god I get more airtime on millennium's drop, two hills, and bunny hop than I get on Diamondback.

What I find funny is that I actually prefer every hyper I've been on over Millennium - I loved its length, location and pacing/speed but it delivers zero in the way of forces for me. Given that, I also find it strange how lauded Millennium is by those who prefer Intamin and would theoretically enjoy a more forceful ride. If you want airtime at Cedar Point get on Magnum, or Maverick. I think I'd also rank Diamondback lower than other B&M megas I've ridden like Leviathan (which eats Millennium for breakfast), Behemoth, and Nitro but I think I enjoyed it more than the Giovanola clone at my home park. After going to KI and CP back to back with a non-enthusiast friend and asking her to contrast Millennium with Diamondback, she said 'I think Diamondback actually packed more of a punch, especially on those hills.'

[Ki Man]

I prefer the front over the back.

When I worked on Diamondback, the Behemoth crew visited and unanimously decided that Diamondback has stronger, better air in the front seat; but Behemoth has better air in the back.

[jdawg1998]

Someone could break into your house tonight and kill you while you sleep. I guess everyone better stop sleeping.

Well that's nice.

[YoungStud]

I prefer the front over the back.

When I worked on Diamondback, the Behemoth crew visited and unanimously decided that Diamondback has stronger, better air in the front seat; but Behemoth has better air in the back.

The train slows so much in the front on the hills.

I guess I have ridden DB to much this year.

There is no perfect coaster for everyone.

What is so awsome about leviathan? Drop, overbank, hill, hammerhead, bank curve, hill, brakes?

[TheCrypt]

What's so awesome about Millennium Force? Drop, overbank, hill, overbank, overbank, hill, overbank, brakes.

[Diamondback96]

Hands up or down isn't going to change much.

Plus, manufacturers typically recommend "hands down and inside the car."

I have a question here.

Doesn't this mean that putting your hands up on a roller coaster is illegal in the State of Ohio, since manufacturer recommendations must be followed there?

[malem]

^ The park has an obligation to follow manufacturer recommendations. You have an obligation to follow posted safety instructions.

Signs on most roller coasters indicate that you must keep your arms/legs "inside" the ride vehicle.

[Ride On_17]

If you sit on the right side of the train on Magnum and the left side of the train on Blue Streak, I feel like if you reached out your arms would hit the supports. I still put my hands up, but I try not to let them go over the side of the car, since I feel like they could hit the supports. I'm not sure if it's just an optical illusion and the supports look closer than they actually are, but I swear that they look close enough to do this. Someone could probably break an arm, their hand, or fingers if they actually hit a support while riding.

[Dieseltech20]

The time ever comes that we are forced to keep our hands down at all times on Coasters.......is when I stop riding them. Sorry but that is part of the thrill for me. Aside from my trip to Beech Bend I feel nothing but safe on rides.

[Jr for Birdy]

The ride-op on Sea Dragon stood next to the train and gave us the quote " Hands up or down but not sideways". Then he proceeded to manually operate the ride, times sure have changed, at least for most places.

[Existential]

I don't believe there are any instances on coasters where limbs would be anywhere close to being non-limbs. This is engineering at the finest...and I'm sure it is taken into consideration at all fronts. Even the Gemini of the 70's. The effect is great...and is the point.

[TombRaiderFTW]

^ I'm going to assume you've never ridden Little Dipper at Camden Park, then. Those things are easily within arm's reach, even if the arm is a child's. Kind of unnerving, but then again, so are a lot of things in that park. Granted, I wouldn't think you are going fast enough on LD to remove a limb, but I'd say you could easily break some fingers, a hand, or maybe an arm if you're unlucky.

[YoungStud]

This is why they do pull throughs.

[The Interpreter]

Also, many CAN reach the tunnel top on Beast's helix, as they have found to their sorrow.

Many older coasters do have items in reach. Years ago, a rider was decapitated at Lagoon on Roller Coaster when he stood up.

[Existential]

I have heard that about The Beast...but I so much as filed that away with people dying on The Bat. Which is to say, that it is interesting to know. Old coasters, especially throughout Europe, I feel as though people were more reluctant to throw their hands up back in the day. To be honest though...I have never really paid attention to the hands of riders in the old black and whites.

Edited August 18, 2013 by Existential

[JTW]

Diamondback was down today around 4:00 PM with a train stuck on the MCBR. Possibly the same issue?

[Tr0y]

The whole reason why they tell you hands and feet inside the cart at all times is to protect the park and manufacture's tail if you get hurt. Most manufactures do pull throughs because they don't want any chance of it becoming an accident because they know you get people who will put there hands out. Kinda like wet floor signs they know your going to walk over the wet floor but if you fall, you can't blame them when you were warned in advanced.

[The Interpreter]

Safety matters more than just liability.

No park or ride manufacturer wants to hurt a guest.

And a mere warning will not protect a defendant when there was a duty to provide a safe condition.

The Interpreter is not engaged in the private practice of law in Ohio, the District of Columbia or any United State. There is no specific legal advice intended for a particular client contained above. Consult a competent attorney in your jurisdiction if you have or think you may have a legal problem. Floors may be slippery when wet.

[Ride On_17]

I forget where I read but, but it might have been PB. I saw someone post something saying that while riding Magnum they reached out and tried to see if they could touch the supports. 1) Yes, this is a very stupid, idiotic thing to do, but 2) Their fingers actually hit the supports. I think they said they were ok but that it still hurt.

So apparently it's possible to do. I never try to let my hands go out the side of the car in fear that something like this will happen. If sudden the car jolts and my arms fly out to the side, I don't want to end up hitting the supports.