CoasterOhio Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 This is a thread for me to ask questions about The Beast for my recreation and get the ride correct! I do have 2 questions right now, one, what is the angle of the first lift hill? and two, what is the angle of the first Drop? Quote
Adventuro Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I am pretty sure that I've heard the lift hill on The Beast (made sure to capitalize this time) is 45 degrees. Quote
The Interpreter Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 And please edit your post and title to capitalize Beast, a trademark registered ride at Kings Island. 2 Quote
rcwizard13 Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I am pretty sure that I've heard the lift hill on The Beast (made sure to capitalize this time) is 45 degrees. I thought that was for the first drop. A 45 degree lift is pretty steep, isn't it? 1 Quote
TombRaiderFTW Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Beast? More like around 30 degrees. For comparison, I believe Millennium Force's lift hill is around 45 degrees. I think I once saw someone use Google Earth to calculate Diamondback's lift at around 40 degrees, but I could be wrong. 1 Quote
ProdigyRider Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Probably 30 on the lift, and around 55 for the drop, what are you making it on? Quote
rcwizard13 Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I'm pretty confident that the drop is exactly 45 degrees. 30 also sounds pretty good for the lift. 1 Quote
thedevariouseffect Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I always heard 30 degrees on the lift incline, 45 on the drop side. 3 Quote
Adventuro Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 When I typed my first post I did actually mean the drop was 45 degrees, and not the lift. I mistyped Quote
The Interpreter Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Please also fix Beast in the post. The site would appreciate it. 1 Quote
CoasterOhio Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 Why does it matter that much? It's just questions, It doesn't need to be fixed, it's not a top priority to me. Quote
Adventuro Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 It's not a top priority to you, and it does seem annoying, but it's valid. Some companies don't take kindly to their names being used incorrectly. 1 Quote
The Interpreter Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 CoasterOhio: You will find it has been fixed for you. If it's not important to you, it is to the park. Consider that, carefully. 2 Quote
homestar92 Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 http://www.kiDiamondback.com/public/latest/blog/index.cfm?entry=7b614318-2c80-4475-a322-12401a5b1afa Beast's lift hill is a 20 degree incline. Also, TombRaiderFTW is correct, 40 degrees for Diamondback's lift. 1 Quote
rcwizard13 Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 A quote from the above link to make it easier for others: Q: The angle of the ascent on Diamondback’s lift hill looks very steep. Is this angle greater than most coasters? Thanks, Mike E. A: The angle of the 230-foot lift hill is 40 degrees. By comparison, Son of Beast is 36 degrees and The Beast is 20 degrees. 2 Quote
Adventuro Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 20 degrees? That's not very steep at all. Quote
CoasterOhio Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 What about the drop now? what would be the true angle of that? Quote
homestar92 Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 According to RCDB, The Beast has a max vertical angle of 45 degrees, which I can only assume is on the first drop. So 45 degrees would presumably be correct unless there is somehow a steeper drop somewhere else. Also, the drop into the helix is apparently 18 degrees. 5 Quote
Fire-Beast-OF FEAR Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I believe that the second drop is the steepest drop. Quote
Tanna Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Now you have the original commercial running through my head, the one where a deep voiced man gave the statistics over the visuals. Quote
kblanken Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 A quote from the above link to make it easier for others: ...Diamondback’s lift hill......angle...is 40 degrees. I think we feel it a few degrees more, with the reclined seats. Is the angle of reclination public information? Quote
upstop Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Now you have the original commercial running through my head, the one where a deep voiced man gave the statistics over the visuals. This one? Edit: The announcers clearly says "3 tunnels". I remember it being announced as having 4 tunnels, and that was before the second and third tunnel were enclosed. The entire helix was also supposed to be covered with a tunnel. 2 Quote
Tanna Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Yes, that one! It's funny how I can remember so many of the statistics because of that commercial. Quote
CoasterOhio Posted January 23, 2014 Author Posted January 23, 2014 A new question. What is the lift hill height of the second lift? Quote
Gplez90 Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Im not exactly sure on the height of the lift hill, but i know the total change of elevation between the top of the lift and the bottom of the helix is 141 feet. Quote
homestar92 Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 And I believe, though I COULD be wrong, that the second lift is slightly taller than the first. Quote
kblanken Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Google Earth shows a ground elevation drop of somewhere around 60 feet from the top of the second lift down into the helix. I found it showing 743 feet down to 683 feet, while the first lift hill has a steady elevation (between 740 and 750) from top to bottom. If the first hill drops 136 feet, and the second drop is 141, then I don't think the second lift would be taller. Quote
steveinphoenix Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 The Beast has 2 lift hills, am I correct? Just wondering, does anybody know how many other coasters there are that have this? It cant be very many. Quote
silver2005 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 There are probably more than you think. Its a rarity on wood coasters though. The only woodies with multiple lifts I know of are Beast and Twister at Knoebels. There are plenty of steel coasters that have multiple lifts, including a lot of Arrow and Vekoma mine train style coasters, Iron Dragon, Ninja, Loch Ness Monster, Dragon at Ocean Park in Hong Kong, Ultimate @ Lightwater Valley, Mystery Mine, Smiler, and more. 1 Quote
TombRaiderFTW Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 I'm suddenly very aware of the fact that I've only been on one wooden coaster with two lifts (Beast, of course.) I hadn't realized how rare that is. 1 Quote
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