sikkinixx99 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 http://Adventure Express will be getting a new lift chain this year. http://t.co/Q3Yn2XY9Mw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsipus13 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 link brings us straight back to here.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sikkinixx99 Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 Yeah my fault I can't figure it out what I did wrong. From the KI Twitter page Sorry for the mess up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malem Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Here's the link to the original post on Twitter: https://twitter.com/KingsIslandPR/status/434140377562349568/photo/1 Adventure Express will be getting a new lift chain this year. Photo: Don Helbig/Kings Island via Twitter 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Do coaster lift chains have a set lifetime that they have to be replaced after, or are they generally only replaced when there are signs of unusual wear or damage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 ^ More than likely, they have a set lifetime. I would imagine metal fatigue is a pretty common issue with them. It's probably been replaced at least once before now; Don just decided to tweet about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamesAndRides Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 For Both Hills? Or Just One? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron88stang Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Can I have a link of the old one? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Some rides were replaced at interval, but it was a big interval. Like my ride got it's chain if I remember almost 10 years or so before. Most of the time though they get replaced if maint. sees a reason to change it, or something happens (see Iron Dragon) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontWantToWait42mar0 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Adventure Express already has 2 Chainz. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharleyTheDinosaur Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Seems fitting that a topic about a chain being replaced starts off with a broken link. 34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 ^^ba dump dump...chuuuuuu 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 They are disturbing the forbidden temple... NOW THEY WILL PAY! 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voicetek Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 For the longest time, a couple seasons ago, that first lift hill used to make a loud popping sound and jerk the train as the train was catching the chain to be pulled up the lift hill. It used to scare the crap out of me. I didn't notice it as bad last season though. I thought maybe it had been fixed. I have no idea what was causing it. Does anyone else know what I'm talking about? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Yeah..I always related it to the chain tensioner. There's an air..for lack of better words, the term escapes me at the moment, balloon, bladdar, etc. Is filled and attached on the return loop. On AE it really drops and shakes a bit keeping tension on the chain. Thats at least what I figured it was. That and combined with the train not matching the chain jog speed, is what I guess makes a nice jolt. Just my thoughts, other people may chime in a bit better. Quick Edit: Talking about this section, edit again, wrong shot To me though I kinda like that jolt, being a mine train ride it kinda..fits you know 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I like the jolt. I think it adds to the theme of the ride. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegajone Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 For the longest time, a couple seasons ago, that first lift hill used to make a loud popping sound and jerk the train as the train was catching the chain to be pulled up the lift hill. It used to scare the crap out of me. I didn't notice it as bad last season though. I thought maybe it had been fixed. I have no idea what was causing it. Does anyone else know what I'm talking about? I remember it doing that back in '06 (which was the last time I went to the KI before this past year's Haunt), so I assume it was a problem for a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanna Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 They are disturbing the forbidden temple... NOW THEY WILL PAY! eh- you just assuage them by tiki-dancing in your seat. works every time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sikkinixx99 Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 Sorry for the broken link. Thanks Malem for posting it the right way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSkyFoxx Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 So what do you think they do with the old chains? Recycle? Refurbish? Paper weight? I have always wanted a chain link or a wheel that's out of commission for my amusement park memorabilia collection. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandyb79 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 So what do you think they do with the old chains? Recycle? Refurbish? Paper weight? I have always wanted a chain link or a wheel that's out of commission for my amusement park memorabilia collection. I would also like a link from this ride. However, more than anything else, I would love to locate the original commercial advertisement for AE. I remember it showcasing the ride as a terrifying new attraction 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Sit in FOF probably haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stashua123 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Thank God this is getting it I sort of hope its the first lift hill because that lift jerks you when you first start going up it and then your stuck with the back forward back forward feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 You'd love Kingda Ka. Or not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roarbot Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I used to work on car washes. This looks like D-88K chain, most tunnel washes use it. The biggest problem is the holes in the links are elongated from wear caused by the pins. Or vice versa. After the tensioners are at their limit, a few links are removed and this goes on until wear causes complete failure. Sometimes you can just change the pins, if you want to be cheap. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I'm sure this came from S&S since they still make the replacement parts for Arrow Coasters! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoe124 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 ^ More than likely, they have a set lifetime. I would imagine metal fatigue is a pretty common issue with them. It's probably been replaced at least once before now; Don just decided to tweet about it. Someone didnt read the expiration date on the chain for The Vortex in 2011! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I used to work on car washes. This looks like D-88K chain, most tunnel washes use it. The biggest problem is the holes in the links are elongated from wear caused by the pins. Or vice versa. After the tensioners are at their limit, a few links are removed and this goes on until wear causes complete failure. Sometimes you can just change the pins, if you want to be cheap. I can semi-vouch for this since I do some design work with industrial chains. I haven't done very much with it personally, so I don't know exactly what kind it is by sight, but D88K sounds like it could be about right. Which, of course, means that Adventure Express' chains aren't necessarily from S&S. And that doesn't mean the chain is any less quality, either. Nor does it mean that the chain is any better quality. I actually would doubt that S&S manufactures their own chains personally, though I don't know that for a fact. Chain design and manufacturing are their own industry. Also, that's actually very intriguing about the pins... The uses I've seen for these types of chains wouldn't allow removal of the links, so it's very interesting to me to hear how the service lives are extended like that. Wouldn't it be cheaper to remove the links like you mentioned than changing the pins out, though? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I used to work on car washes. This looks like D-88K chain, most tunnel washes use it. The biggest problem is the holes in the links are elongated from wear caused by the pins. Or vice versa. After the tensioners are at their limit, a few links are removed and this goes on until wear causes complete failure. Sometimes you can just change the pins, if you want to be cheap. I can semi-vouch for this since I do some design work with industrial chains. I haven't done very much with it personally, so I don't know exactly what kind it is by sight, but D88K sounds like it could be about right. Which, of course, means that Adventure Express' chains aren't necessarily from S&S. And that doesn't mean the chain is any less quality, either. Nor does it mean that the chain is any better quality. I actually would doubt that S&S manufactures their own chains personally, though I don't know that for a fact. Chain design and manufacturing are their own industry. Also, that's actually very intriguing about the pins... The uses I've seen for these types of chains wouldn't allow removal of the links, so it's very interesting to me to hear how the service lives are extended like that. Wouldn't it be cheaper to remove the links like you mentioned than changing the pins out, though? I would fathom to guess that you're right. Customized stuff comes from the manufacturer. Stuff like chains, nuts, bolts, paint, etc probably comes from a supply house. Plus it probably takes specific equipment to make chains, so it would make more sense for the manufacturer to order the chains in the first place. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Genuine GM parts come from many suppliers worldwide. GM cannot require use of its own parts in order to maintain warranty unless it provides those parts free of charge. It can, however, specify the requirements for aftermarket parts in order for those parts to comply as replacement parts. Fake replacement parts, usually cheap Chinese knock-offs, are a real problem in the automotive industry. I'd suspect that chain manufacturing and sales in the amusement industry are similar to the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM)\Aftermarket automotive paradigm. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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