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Decoding Episode II: Rivertown 2017 and the Falling Trees

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Watch for falling tress..... axes.... could be hinting at the name and have nothing to do with the type of coaster. Maybe something with Timber in the name (get it?) Or they could just being hinting at a wooden coaster and im just refusing to accept it.  I definitely believe the barrels are a straight hint at barrel rolls.

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    Hmmm. When I zoom in, all I can see is "Obi-Don!"   

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    Nothing to see here. Just some trees, and a few engineers and stone carvers working on an 80' statue... move along 

  • Hi guys!  Long time follower, first time poster.  Just wanted to finally join in on the fun!  This is the first season I've had a pass in probably more than a decade!  I grew up in the area but I mov

And for pretty much definitive proof, its a GCI: 

 

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Thats the motor block foundation plan that Kenban posted here: http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php/topic/31913-decoding-episode-ii-rivertown-2017-and-the-falling-trees/?p=737049

 

And a picture of the lift on Heidi from rcdb here: http://rcdb.com/7645.htm#p=68515

 

They match. Heidi is a GCI being built in Belgium now. 

Woah, the section of trees that the new WWC queue goes around has no more trees.

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*deep sigh*

 

I really did like how many trees were around that part of the path. I really did.

 

I'm excited for this new ride. I was just really hopeful that a new ride in that area wouldn't result in a Diamondback-like clear-cutting of trees in one of the few locations inside the park that still has lots of trees. Oh well!

who is sending rude PMs, interesting how something simple as decoding goes so far, anyway back on topic: Is anyone at the park right now? can they possibly ride the train and see if anything has changed?

currently riding. So far the most thats changed is the area by WWC's queue.

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who is sending rude PMs, interesting how something simple as decoding goes so far, anyway back on topic: Is anyone at the park right now? can they possibly ride the train and see if anything has changed?

currently riding. So far the most thats changed is the area by WWC's queue.

Just kidding theres some terascaping by the reservoire

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Really interesting Snapchat today:

 

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I just hope it's a record breaking woodie if it is one. Doesn't have to SOB scale. Gut bigger then any other woodie out there.

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I just hope it's a record breaking woodie if it is one. Doesn't have to SOB scale. But bigger then any other woodie out there.

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I just hope it's a record breaking woodie if it is one. Doesn't have to SOB scale. Gut bigger then any other woodie out there.

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The current tallest I can think of is Goliath at 164ft so it would be relatively close in height to SOB. Fastest is supposed to be Lightning Rod at 73, so a little bit slower then SOB. And of course the longest is already at KI, in The Beast. So I doubt it will break any records, which is fine as records don't necessarily make a ride good, just more marketable.  

I wonder if the record KI will break will be the most wooden coaster track in one park?  I do believe KI lost that when SOB was shut down/demolished.  The only park I think that tops us is Holiday World.  

 

This post may be edited.  Going to crunch numbers.

 

EDIT: The park with the most wooden track is Six Flags Great America at around 16,558 ft (I'm begrudgingly counting Goliath).  KI has about 15,539 ft.  Even a small GCI should put KI over.  

Contrary to most people's opinions on this site, this would be better than any B&M/Intamin/RMC/GCI in my books!

Contrary to most people's opinions on this site, this would be better than any B&M/Intamin/RMC/GCI in my books!

Seriously? Did you ever ride it?

I am convinced if SOB was built with good materials and not rushed we would still have it to this day. My biggest problem with SOB was the trains were just not good, but I understand that those were needed for the loop. I actually would love to see something similar return, but with SOB past I doubt we will ever see something like it again.

I thought it had a pretty uninspiring layout. I took one of my nephews on it, who was 12 at the time and not a coaster enthusiast, and he pretty much summed it up: "It was big and painful and just kept doing the same thing over and over".

"Well, Banshee was her usual, busy self, so no luck there; but I did manage to catch DB on break..."

 

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The only thing we have is not even a layout, it's the path to a layout. 

 

We don't know what the banks are going to be, or if there are any twists or loops (We can rule out Dive/Immelmans/Vertical Loops) since You can most definitely tell those parts of any roller coaster. But are we going to have Barrel rolls, we don't know until a more detailed plan is shown off. Which possibly won't happen for a little longer down the road. 

 

We still don't know a name. It could be Centurion, but it also could be something different. We still do not know a manufacturer... RMC, GCI, CCI, GG, Intamin even... (I doubt intamin, but you never know) We still don't even exactly know the height, length, nor the exact location that this ride will be placed in. 

 

We know the experience shown while being on the train will definitely change when this ride comes.

 

We know to watch for falling trees. 

 

Axes, and barrels have something to do with it.

 

By the way, can't we just go back to the old saying... "Those who know, do not speak. Those who don't know, speak"? And can we also stop tearing out heads off of our necks with this tread? Seriously? It's very bad here and I feel like a lot of people are hating each other on this site, and no one should EVER be called out, and or getting rude private messages. 

 

If you know, STOP talking. If you don't know, please continue to talk. but be nice about it! This thread is very frustrating, and I honestly think it might be possible to suggest a shut down, or a firm limitation because I don't like how this thread is going, and I feel like other people are feeling the same way. 

Amen. Halelujah. This is totally 100% true.

I just hope it's a record breaking woodie if it is one. Doesn't have to SOB scale. Gut bigger then any other woodie out there.

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The current tallest I can think of is Goliath at 164ft so it would be relatively close in height to SOB. Fastest is supposed to be Lightning Rod at 73, so a little bit slower then SOB. And of course the longest is already at KI, in The Beast. So I doubt it will break any records, which is fine as records don't necessarily make a ride good, just more marketable.
Colossos at Heide Park in Germany is the tallest woodie at 197'

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I'm sure the mention of the Antique Cars is coincidental, but it made me think: wouldn't the woods around this potential new coaster be a cool location for some new Antique Cars? It brings to mind Blue Ridge Tollway at Kings Dominion--a nice, relaxing drive through the woods.

 

Kings Island, make it happen, please! :)

Mr. Biscuit, Your posts are one of the better things going on in this thread.

 

That's just great.

On SOB- how you design a 200+ ft wooden coaster with 0 air time and nothing but helices and a loop with positive and lateral g's is beyond me.  The Premier and Gerstlauer trains were both garbage.  The only redeeming things were the 214 ft drop and the loop.  

I always wonder what SOB would have been like if it had been built by someone other then RCCA, such as CCI, used a steel structure that wouldn't collapse and had actually been completely finished...

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^I'm pretty confident in guessing that CCI either wouldn't touch the project or (knowing how Paramount Parks operated) was simply more expensive than the RCCA proposal. 

The only company now that would probably do anything that insane would be Gravity Group.

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^In all seriousness, I wouldn't put it past Intamin or RMC to do it.  Part of me at the time was hopeful RMC would get to re-design SOB.  Having seen the forensic reports from the 2006 accident, I knew it probably wouldn't happen. 

Accidents don't seem to matter to Intamin based on their track record :D i'm sure there has been an "acceptable" number of incidents

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