FoolCrzy Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, chugh43 said: Yes, there was a video posted on YouTube, where they spoke about their drone getting footage in the description. Yep, I looked at it again. Good call. 1
Maverick44 Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 3 hours ago, JudeHoward said: A little off topic, but with there being construction permits and track already at CW. Is it honestly likely for us to get a giga next year with no sign of any construction or any hints whatsoever? As in 2018 no. There will be no coaster in 2018. Not every parks needs to start construction 2 seasons in advance so we wouldn't see anything happen till mid season if anything. 1
whengodsaysgo Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 I'm pro-shed. Just sayin. I still think the storyline is awesome despite the "hype." It's better than a sunny break run. I love the Tree Guy. 6
Maverick44 Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 The Shed is good for what it is. I was expecting something else though haha 2
DiamondBanshee Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 For those asking, yes it is drone footage. As for the legality of it, that’s a mess that’s not even worth arguing about. Idk about Canada but in the US there is way to actually limit a drone from flying if a number of rules are not broken. For example, a park can prohibit drones in their grounds but not actually the airspace above it as it is controlled by the FAA. Of course there are a lot of rules that must be followed, such as no flying over crowds, etc. but if the person were to take off from an area outside the property, with permission from the local airport, etc. there is really no law they are breaking for flying the drone. Again, I’m not sure about the laws in Canada and there’s a lot more stuff to consider but like I said, this is an extremely polarizing topic that would be best left alone. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
Creed Bratton Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 My point wasn't if it was legal or not....it was in response to it being said that it was Canada's Wonderland fail for letting the track be seen. My response was more about is it a fail of the park or is it really their fault someone used a drone to see it. Legally, it's not my call nor was that my intention. 1
Honorarius Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 10 hours ago, DiamondBanshee said: For those asking, yes it is drone footage. As for the legality of it, that’s a mess that’s not even worth arguing about. Idk about Canada but in the US there is way to actually limit a drone from flying if a number of rules are not broken. For example, a park can prohibit drones in their grounds but not actually the airspace above it as it is controlled by the FAA. Of course there are a lot of rules that must be followed, such as no flying over crowds, etc. but if the person were to take off from an area outside the property, with permission from the local airport, etc. there is really no law they are breaking for flying the drone. Again, I’m not sure about the laws in Canada and there’s a lot more stuff to consider but like I said, this is an extremely polarizing topic that would be best left alone. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk They've asked him to not film from the west side of the park but told him he is fine to film from the south as long as he doesn't go over the park. 1
Maverick44 Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 So I am guessing we won't be able to see anything else. 1
medford Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 It is only a failure if the park didn't want leaks to escape. You'll never convince me that parks don't appreciate the buzz generated by a few well placed leaks. 5
SonofBaconator Posted February 1, 2018 Author Posted February 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, medford said: It is only a failure if the park didn't want leaks to escape. You'll never convince me that parks don't appreciate the buzz generated by a few well placed leaks. Well that is true, its fun to have a little mystery. 3
Maverick44 Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 I agree with both comment above. It generates interest in the park. 2
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 Remember in 2010, Cedar Fair built both a hyper and a giga in the same year. Yes the giga was Intamin, but a 2019 Kings Island giga isn't completely out of the question. Is it Unlikely? Yes, but still a possibility even though I don't think the giga will be Intamin. I see it being either b&m, Mack, or RMC. 1
SonofBaconator Posted February 2, 2018 Author Posted February 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said: Remember in 2010, Cedar Fair built both a hyper and a giga in the same year. Yes the giga was Intamin, but a 2019 Kings Island giga isn't completely out of the question. Is it Unlikely? Yes, but still a possibility even though I don't think the giga will be Intamin. I see it being either b&m, Mack, or RMC. Cedar Fair hasn't installed a ground up Intamin in 8 years. B&M has delivered two gigas to the chain that have been well received by both the gp and enthusiasts alike. In terms of safety and reliability, I think installing a B&M giga would be a smarter move on the company's part. They wouldn't want to install a 300+ft coaster that isn't reliable. 4
Maverick44 Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 To be honest Mill Force is as reliable as they come. I would def not mind if CF went with Intamin again for a giga at KI. I don't really ever see MF down. Its open every time I go with no issues. 1
DiamondBanshee Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 ^Yes but that’s 2000-era Intamin. Looking at Intamin most recent giga, I305, as well as other recent US Intamins, it’s pretty clear that B&M is the better choice in terms of what Cedar Fair wantsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 4
Maverick44 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Meh. Like I have said before. they may have been so low key because they were retooling somethings. I'd like to see them get another chance. Such better coasters imo. 1
spooky21 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 18 minutes ago, Maverick44 said: Meh. Like I have said before. they may have been so low key because they were retooling somethings. I'd like to see them get another chance. Such better coasters imo. I respectfully disagree, I think Diamondback is better than MF. Now if we are talking Maverick it's hard for me to say cause I've only rode it once, it blew me away though. 2
Maverick44 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 I mean can you really compare a hyper and a giga? I would choose MF every time over DB. 1
SonofBaconator Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 57 minutes ago, Maverick44 said: Meh. Like I have said before. they may have been so low key because they were retooling somethings. I'd like to see them get another chance. Such better coasters imo. But you have to understand from a company's standpoint there are no freebies or second chances. B&M's are more reliable than Intamins are. The early 2000s were great for Intamin but more recently their rides have all been issues. Companies like B&M are safer and have had far less incidents than Intamin. Sure Intamins are fun, but at what cost is fun if you know their newer rides aren't as safe? How many deaths has B&M caused?-zero As great as Maverick is, the coaster could have seriously hurt/killed people if they stayed with its original design... 2
Maverick44 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Has there been a death on an Intamin coaster? Lets not get on this subject again. Everyone has their own opinions and likes haha none of us are going to change each other minds haha 1
SonofBaconator Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, Maverick44 said: Has there been a death on an Intamin coaster? Yes, several. https://www.ultimaterollercoaster.com/forums/roller-coasters-theme-parks/144070 https://coasterbuzz.com/News/oakwood-investigation-considers-us-deaths-on-intamin-rides https://www.coaster101.com/2012/02/24/14-year-old-girl-dies-on-intamin-giant-drop/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intamin 1
Oldschool75 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 It was drone footage that was flown legally and NOT over CW’s property. I know this because I’m in contact with the person who filmed it. I have seen the raw footage. Yes, I would say the park should have been a little more careful, then again the person who took the footage shouldn’t have released it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
Maverick44 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, SonofBaconator said: Yes, several. www.ultimaterollercoaster.com/forums/roller-coasters-theme-parks/144070 https://coasterbuzz.com/News/oakwood-investigation-considers-us-deaths-on-intamin-rides https://www.coaster101.com/2012/02/24/14-year-old-girl-dies-on-intamin-giant-drop/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intamin Reading over those I only see one death on a coaster and that's because the dude had no legs. Anyway haha Let's not get back debating Intamin or B&M it gets us no where lol 1
SonofBaconator Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Maverick44 said: Reading over those I only see one death on a coaster and that's because the dude had no legs. Anyway haha Let's not get back debating Intamin or B&M it gets us no where lol But those are deaths nonetheless, just letting you know. Its very unlikely Cedar Fair will call on Intamin for another big project like I305 1
matt112986 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, SonofBaconator said: But those are deaths nonetheless, just letting you know. Its very unlikely Cedar Fair will call on Intamin for another big project like I305 Then would you include people who got hit by B&M inverts? Its not really the manufacturers fault when the rules are not obeyed. Intimins record, while far from sterling, gets a lot better when human error is considered. If you drive/ride in cars you are tolerating far more risk than any Intamin. Most leasure activities are more dangerous. 3
SonofBaconator Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 37 minutes ago, matt112986 said: Then would you include people who got hit by B&M inverts? Its not really the manufacturers fault when the rules are not obeyed. Intimins record, while far from sterling, gets a lot better when human error is considered. If you drive/ride in cars you are tolerating far more risk than any Intamin. Most leasure activities are more dangerous. While that is true, it's not a coincidence that a lot of deaths or injuries at amusement parks have been from Intamins. There are still countless times when a ride has malfunctioned due to manufacturing i.e. cable snaps, faulty lift hills, need for retracking etc. I'm not saying B&M is perfect but they're way safer and reliable than Intamin. 4
matt112986 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 8 hours ago, SonofBaconator said: While that is true, it's not a coincidence that a lot of deaths or injuries at amusement parks have been from Intamins. There are still countless times when a ride has malfunctioned due to manufacturing i.e. cable snaps, faulty lift hills, need for retracking etc. I'm not saying B&M is perfect but they're way safer and reliable than Intamin. I agree but I think your assessment of Intamin is way off. They may be less safe than most manufactures but they are way safer than many things and I wouldn't call them dangerous. Beside a few notable rides most of their products seem to run fine. 2
KIghostguy Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 12 hours ago, Maverick44 said: Has there been a death on an Intamin coaster? Not a coaster, but Flight Commander here at Kings Island was an Intamin. The death on it was caused by improperly designed restraints. 4
SonofBaconator Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 2 hours ago, matt112986 said: I agree but I think your assessment of Intamin is way off. They may be less safe than most manufactures but they are way safer than many things and I wouldn't call them dangerous. Beside a few notable rides most of their products seem to run fine. I understand that, 100%. But has to be a reason why Cedar Fair hasn't gotten a new Intamin for over 8 years as opposed to other manufacturers. Heck Gerstlauer has came back to the chain 2
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