Ben Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 If Intamin is building SFGadv's new woodie for 2006, then you can count on it being as smooth as butter. Their wooden coasters are almost as smooth as their steel coasters. You can count on Intamin to bring something amazing to the wooden coaster community. If SFGadv wants something big, Intamin will give them big.
thejoker8388 Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 ^I think SFGADV would be wise to hold off on the Intamin woody for a year or two. Considering their latest Intamin essentaiy destroyed itself and is requiring additional millions to repair. But hey as said before this is Six Flags and they aren't know for wise decisions.
Jasper Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 If they do the you know CP or SFMM will build something taller and better.
moore Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 CP should (and I think is) worry about building an enjoyable woody. Lets face it, MS was a failure! But building an enjoyable woody is probably at the bottom of the list. Why would SFMM want to outdo a park in its own franchise or w/e you would call Six Flags?
KIBeast Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 "I think SFGADV would be wise to hold off on the Intamin woody for a year or two. Considering their latest Intamin essentaiy destroyed itself and is requiring additional millions to repair. But hey as said before this is Six Flags and they aren't know for wise decisions." But, their wooden coasters have not had any major problems I have heard of. Not only that, you are talking two totally different types of technologies.
UnrealNightmare Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 guess what Holiday World is infact building a new woodie its suppose to be announced on july 13th http://www.rcdb.com/id3231.htm what is a hybrid woodie. I hope this doesnt beat the Son of Beasts or beasts records. just thought id post the update.
BoddaH1994 Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Even if it is taller or longer than The Beast or SOB, if it's a hybrid, I'm not going to respect it as the record holder.
harvesterofyoursorrow Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 I'm sure that someday they will be beaten. But with the price of wood these days, people arent so ready to dish out all the money for wood supports. Unless The Beast or Son of Beast is taken down (hopefully not) I belive they will keep their records for the next 5-10 years.
flightoffear1996 Posted July 7, 2005 Author Posted July 7, 2005 I could see Son of Beast going cause its really not a classic and if your not knowing what is coming up or in tip top physical shape then you could be in for a big beating and The Beast is just as bad if not worse but that is a classic and they wont ever tear it out. Holiday World with the way they are building things lately using the layout of the ride to thrill people not height and speed (both of the main coasters are under 100 feet) I dont see why they would change their ways now and ruin what the park has going for them.
Vortex Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 A hybrid woodie is steel supports with wooden track. CP has a hybrid and so does PKI with AE. So Holiday World will have the longest hybrid coaster so what.
KIBeast Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 Holiday World will not beat Son of Beast's records. I believe that Six Flags Great Adventure will be the one going for that next year with the Intamin plug-n-play woodie. To me, since HW's is going to be a hybrid, then it can't take away The Beast's record.
Jasper Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 CP has a hybrid and so does PKI with AE. So Holiday World will have the longest hybrid coaster so what. No they dont. Gemini has steel tack and wooden supports.
Vortex Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 CP has a hybrid and so does PKI with AE. So Holiday World will have the longest hybrid coaster so what. No they dont. Gemini has steel tack and wooden supports. Its still a hybrid coaster. Sure PKI and CP have steel hybrids with wooden supports and steel track. Has anyone been on Tiwisted Siter/ Tiwisted Tiwns? at Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom? Its a okay coaster small and good.
peteytherocker Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 im from canada and my park is PCW but last summer i came to PKI cause when i worked at PCW last year we organized a trip to go to PKI and i can trulyt saythat pcw is a bit better but in rides and fun PKI shatters wonderland.... About SOB Iloved every second of it...the loop almost kade me freak cause its just a lap bar but overall it rocked! overall i would prefer Kings Island over wonderland because pki have taken their land a preserved it and organized the ride positioning so there isnt ne claustraphobia or no space....now pcw we have cluttered everything and didnt even this about our other 320 acres! My guess is that there planning something big for 2007 if not 2008 but who knows anyways i think pki will do something grandpa beast lol!
CoastersRZ Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 I don`t get how people are calling coasters hybrids. It is not like they are a combination of wood and steel track. Son of Beast is a wood coaster, supported by a wood support structure. Villain at Geauga Lake, and soon to be the Voyage at Holiday World are wooden roller coasters with a steel support structure. Both of types are considered wooden coasters, not hybrids. By the same token, Cedar Creek MIne Ride, Gemini, and Aventure Express are steel coasters supported by a wood structure. But they are still steel coasters like Top Gun, Vortex and Flight of Fear. They have a tubular steel track upon which the trains run.
Admiral Ackbar Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 CP has a hybrid and so does PKI with AE. So Holiday World will have the longest hybrid coaster so what. No they dont. Gemini has steel tack and wooden supports. Its still a hybrid coaster. Sure PKI and CP have steel hybrids with wooden supports and steel track. Has anyone been on Tiwisted Siter/ Tiwisted Tiwns? at Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom? Its a okay coaster small and good. Indeed, being a former Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom employee, I have been on Twisted Twins. It is decent. It is great when both sides are running!
AZ Kinda Guy Posted July 18, 2005 Posted July 18, 2005 If this holds true; am I the only person happy? Maybe if SOB's precious height and speed record is broken, it will give them one more reason to blow up the darn thing.
KIBeast Posted July 18, 2005 Posted July 18, 2005 AZ, why don't you tell us how you really feel about SOB?
BeastVortexFan Posted July 18, 2005 Posted July 18, 2005 Even if they do, I'm sure during the winter they would add on to SOB's hill to make it still the tallest. And to **** those guys off!
HelixSpiral Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 If this holds true; am I the only person happy? Maybe if SOB's precious height and speed record is broken, it will give them one more reason to blow up the darn thing. LOL
flightoffear1996 Posted July 19, 2005 Author Posted July 19, 2005 Even if they do, I'm sure during the winter they would add on to SOB's hill to make it still the tallest. And to **** those guys off! Like a 100 foot tall weather pole.
DeLorean Rider Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 That pre-fabricated wood is a joke, it defeats the point of a wooden coaster.
Delirium_Guy Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 That pre-fabricated wood is a joke, it defeats the point of a wooden coaster. How does it defeat the point of a wooden coaster? Its still wooden track. Plain and simple. The benefit, less maintanance for the Park over the years. Still to this day, reports indicate that Colossos at Heide Park is still butter smooth....and its only a about 20 feet shorter than Son of Beast in height. No matter how much you love or hate the ride, Son of Beast is a financial disaster for the Park. Its hardly worth the *additional* money they had to invest in the ride just to get it to the point where it was rideable. Imagine what they could have done with all that money? - Todd
DeLorean Rider Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 Have you ever ridden one, I have. (one of my best friends is a foregin exchange student from germany) It doesnt feel like wood at all. It is entirely too smooth for a wood coaster. I would never dream of riding a ride like The Beast and having it feel like I was riding millennium force. Granted Son of Beast is rough, but if your going to spend the money on a coster that feels like it steel, then make it steel.
Captain Nemo Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 There is a simple solution to SOB roughness. SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CAR, NOT OVER A WHEEL.
coastergirl Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 There is a simple solution to SOB roughness. SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CAR, NOT OVER A WHEEL. Yep. That's the way to ride it. We hardly ever get beat up if we ride in the front of the train in a middle seat. Never over the wheels.
Captain Nemo Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 The Beast and Son of Beast are one of the best if not THE best ride ever when riding in those middle seats. Take my advice!
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