PKI Needs a Hyper coaster bad!

[pkiboy]

Kings Island is giong with ride themes. At least i think they are.

[moore]

I would like a big hyper at PKI (preferebly a B&M because CP already has an Intiman). But facing the facts, we probably won't see one for some time.

[KIBeast]

You can theme hyper coasters. You can theme any coaster. Look at Superman:Ride of Steel, the Batman B&M inverts, the Hulk, Dueling Dragons, Alpengeist, etc. A hyper would fit in at PKI. I have seen people of all different ages riding Magnum XL200, so you can't say it wouldn't fit in the family image.

"I would like a big hyper at PKI (preferebly a B&M because CP already has an Intiman). But facing the facts, we probably won't see one for some time."

Cedar Point's hyper is an Arrow, not Intamin. Their giga and strata coasters are Intamin.

"Uhm, well If I recall correctly, there was no track beneath the airplanes in Top Gun"

Well, if I remember correctly, I don't remember any giant top spins in Tomb Raider, so what is your point?

[Gulliversrubadub]

KI will always stick to there tradition of being a "Family Theme Park" so I really don't think you are going tp see a Hyper Coaster anytime soon.

[CoastersRZ]

No PKI, will probably ever install a hyper coaster, because it focuses more on the teenage and thrill seeker crowd. But stranger things have happened. I personally don`t think we will see any hypers either. I think IJST and rides of that genre are the way PKI is heading. Just look at the additions since 2003.

[KIBeast]

Well, if IJ:ST is the best they can come up with, they can keep it. I'll spend my money elsewhere.

[Gulliversrubadub]

Well, if IJ:ST is the best they can come up with, they can keep it. I'll spend my money elsewhere.

Your money isn't going to make or break KI.

[Jasper]

I think thta PKI is in need of a new big attraction but they also need to stick to their main goal, to be a family park.

[Scooby_Doo]

I think thta PKI is in need of a new big attraction but they also need to stick to their main goal, to be a family park.

I agree!

[Ben]

I wonder why nobody has mentioned the fact that PKI doesn't always build family oriented rides. PKI is extremely lacking in the thrill department, and everybody here knows it.

Face/Off

Drop Zone

Delirium

Tomb Raider

Son of Beast

In the past six years, these rides have been added, and none of them are family oriented. IJ:ST was the worst investment that PKI has ever made.

[robintodd]

Ok, as far as movies to theme rides after how about....War Of The Worlds. (would probalby make a FANTASTIC dark ride though). Also as far as a hyper theme Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow would be a good candidate. Also the Core or possibly Mission Impossible (3 is in the works).

I would love to see a hyper and it's about time they made up for SOB.

Just my thoughts...

Todd

[thejoker8388]

^^IJ:ST wasn't a bad investment. It cost around $10 million and in today's world that isn't that bad for a new coaster at all, it's not like it cost 25 million or anything. Delirium alone was 5 milion. The worst investment PKI has ever made was by far SOB, not only was it 15 million but it also has required millions and millions of extra spending after it has been completed and it didn't bring in the people like PKI hoped and didn't work much when it was opened. I would also say from a buisiness stand point that TTD was a bad investment. When it opened it barely ever worked and CP's attendence didn't increase nearly as much as a coaster of 25 million should. Plus it is also a maintence nightmare like SOB. I think IJ:ST with its relative low cost will bring in a fair amount of people for the cost and actually be a great investment.

[KIBeast]

I never said my money was going to make or break PKI, so shove it.

Ben is right. They don't spend all of their money on family attractions. Don't see grandpa riding Delirium.

IJ:ST is a great kids coaster, but that's about it.

[Gulliversrubadub]

I never said my money was going to make or break PKI, so shove it.

Ben is right. They don't spend all of their money on family attractions. Don't see grandpa riding Delirium.

IJ:ST is a great kids coaster, but that's about it.

Shove it? How mature for you to say that! You complain about KI roller coasters and then say you are going to spend your money elsewhere, so go do it. Don't complain if you are not going to spend money at KI. Go somewhere else and complain.

[KIBeast]

Since the 70's, my family and I have spent plenty of money there, so I can complain if I want. Funny, back in those days, we didn't need highly themed kids' coasters to have a good time as a family. There were lots of other rides for that like Bayern Curve, Tumble Bug, Der Spinnin' Keggers, Zodiac, Bumper Cars, WWC, KCKC, The Racers, The Beast, (my grandparents rode both Racers and Beast)I could go on. What they fail to realize is that they have had plenty of family rides over the years, they just chose to remove them and not replace them.

[Gulliversrubadub]

Since the 70's, my family and I have spent plenty of money there, so I can complain if I want. Funny, back in those days, we didn't need highly themed kids' coasters to have a good time as a family. There were lots of other rides for that like Bayern Curve, Tumble Bug, Der Spinnin' Keggers, Zodiac, Bumper Cars, WWC, KCKC, The Racers, The Beast, (my grandparents rode both Racers and Beast)I could go on. What they fail to realize is that they have had plenty of family rides over the years, they just chose to remove them and not replace them.

It's not about the coasters of the past or family rides that you are complaining about. You are saying if they can't come up with better coasters which I happen to think IJST is a great family coaster, then you are going to spend your money elsewhere. I think KI did a great job by bringing in a new family coaster, but I personally don't want to see KI get a Hyper Coaster. I love the fact that it is a FAMILY AMUSMENT PARK and I hope it stays that way.

[KIBeast]

It's always been a FAMILY AMUSEMENT PARK. Wake up! Over the years, I have seen way more families than lone teenagers and coaster enthusiasts. So, now they say they want to cater to a demographic that they have been catering to for years. Duh! They've always done just that. Sorry, IJ:Stunt Crap doesn't cut it as a coaster, family or not. My point was, you don't have to build crappy family coasters like Italian Job because families were already riding the coasters that they already have. Case closed!

[BoddaH1994]

So, now they say they want to cater to a demographic that they have been catering to for years. Duh! They've always done just that. Sorry, IJ:Stunt Crap doesn't cut it as a coaster, family or not.

It's really all about market research. This site is such a microscopic view of what people really want. Of course if you asked anyone on here what they would want, they'd say they want a 250ft tall Intamin with 15 inversions. This of course is coming from a demographic that's mainly males between the ages of 16 and 30, a lot of which don't have families. PKI does extensive market research to find out what types of rides, shows, and attractions would be the most popular with the most amount of people from year to year and they follow that when planning their expansions. IJ isn't exactly what people on here would describe when asked what their dream coaster would be, but to my understanding, it has been very popular with the masses.

I do however agree with your comment that you made before that PKI is always removing family attractions. Looking back at the timeline, the last true expansion we've had was SOB in 2000, and even that's arguable because the monorail used to run there. Of course, there are several reasons why this is happening. The main reason is likely that things get outdated and the space that they occupy could be utilized better and be more profitable with a new expansion, there's no denying that. Secondly, let's face it, when some of these rides get old, it's just really expensive to maintain them and as opposed to cutting into their budget for the next year, they just remove it and utilize the money on other improvements. Lastly, PKI has a pretty good layout. To my understanding, the "wheel" design is based off of Disney. Let's face it, in those few areas where it dead ends, it's always crowded (i.e. AZ neear SOB, CM near Spongebob), so in order to add a new attraction in an area that's not preexisting, they would almost have to ad a new area, which is real money there. I just wish they would think a little more when deciding what to remove. Regardless of of you feel about the Tiques, Flyers, or IJ, this years expansion really took away from the look and feel of the park.

[Captain Nemo]

So, now they say they want to cater to a demographic that they have been catering to for years.  Duh!  They've always done just that.  Sorry, IJ:Stunt Crap doesn't cut it as a coaster, family or not.

It's really all about market research. This site is such a microscopic view of what people really want. Of course if you asked anyone on here what they would want, they'd say they want a 250ft tall Intamin with 15 inversions. This of course is coming from a demographic that's mainly males between the ages of 16 and 30, a lot of which don't have families. PKI does extensive market research to find out what types of rides, shows, and attractions would be the most popular with the most amount of people from year to year and they follow that when planning their expansions. IJ isn't exactly what people on here would describe when asked what their dream coaster would be, but to my understanding, it has been very popular with the masses.

I do however agree with your comment that you made before that PKI is always removing family attractions. Looking back at the timeline, the last true expansion we've had was SOB in 2000, and even that's arguable because the monorail used to run there. Of course, there are several reasons why this is happening. The main reason is likely that things get outdated and the space that they occupy could be utilized better and be more profitable with a new expansion, there's no denying that. Secondly, let's face it, when some of these rides get old, it's just really expensive to maintain them and as opposed to cutting into their budget for the next year, they just remove it and utilize the money on other improvements. Lastly, PKI has a pretty good layout. To my understanding, the "wheel" design is based off of Disney. Let's face it, in those few areas where it dead ends, it's always crowded (i.e. AZ neear SOB, CM near Spongebob), so in order to add a new attraction in an area that's not preexisting, they would almost have to ad a new area, which is real money there. I just wish they would think a little more when deciding what to remove. Regardless of of you feel about the Tiques, Flyers, or IJ, this years expansion really took away from the look and feel of the park.

I was going to say the same thing. If you look on the map you see that people can go in a circle around the park going on every ride (exept AZ).

[Gulliversrubadub]

It's always been a FAMILY AMUSEMENT PARK. Wake up! Over the years, I have seen way more families than lone teenagers and coaster enthusiasts. So, now they say they want to cater to a demographic that they have been catering to for years. Duh! They've always done just that. Sorry, IJ:Stunt Crap doesn't cut it as a coaster, family or not. My point was, you don't have to build crappy family coasters like Italian Job because families were already riding the coasters that they already have. Case closed!

If you don't like what they have simply DON'T GO TO KI anymore. Go somewhere else. PKI doesn't need your money.

[KIBeast]

I never said I don't like what they have, I just don't like their lastest choice. And, quit trying to tell me what to do, Dad, I'm grown and can make my own decisions. I love how everyone's answer is don't go any more and don't complain. It is my right to complain, just as it was other people's right to complain to the park when they removed the scooters. Get over yourself.

[PKIbabe89]

PKI and can a family park, or a (just bring friends and have fun) park. I've seen plenty of familes enjoying themselves there. Disney parks are a diffrent theme from PKI, and thats a good thing.

[CoastersRZ]

PKI has carved itslef a nice niche in the industry. They are bringing in families with kids, as well as the thrill seekers. The real reason why PKI has gone family friendly the past couple of years is that the families are the ones that will spend more money in the park. Afterall, PKI is a business that depends on people speniding money both to get in, and on merchandise, games and food.

I agree that IJ is a great family coaster, with some nice theming. I wish they would have installed it in another area, because the center of the park is just not the same withouth all the trees there. I still find it wierd being able to see across the center of the park like that.

As far as expansions, yes Son of Beast was one of the last true expansions to the main ride park. But don`t forget that last year, they removed one set of slides from the water park, replaced them with four new ones (Coolangatta Racers) and opened Tasmanian Typhoon, Jackeroo Landing, and Kookebura Bay. The main reason PKI expanded the water park is because the increasing popularity of water parks across the country.

I do not necessarily believe that PKI needs to have a hyper coaster. I do agree that a quality, smooth steel coaster from B&M or Intamin could be very successul at PKI. But that is not the direction in which they are headed. Sure, PKI will continue to add more roller costers in the future. They will just be more similar to IJST instead of Millenium Force.

PKi has to be doing something right to continually rank among the top for seasonal theme park attendance. As has been said, PKI does extensive research before they install new rides. Part of which they do throught their online surveys. The opinions that are expressed on this website as was mentioned demonstrates a very limited scope of PKI`s demographic. Just imagine if you had children and were given the option to go to PKI or Cedar Point. Which one would you choose? I would imagine that most families would choose PKI because the amount of rides they have available for children. That is enough from me for now.

[Gulliversrubadub]

I never said I don't like what they have, I just don't like their lastest choice. And, quit trying to tell me what to do, Dad, I'm grown and can make my own decisions. I love how everyone's answer is don't go any more and don't complain. It is my right to complain, just as it was other people's right to complain to the park when they removed the scooters. Get over yourself.

Get over your self.............How orginal. Your real mature for your age. Grow up and be an adult, accept what PKI does and live with it. KI is not going to change for you or anyone else.

[KIBeast]

I see heywood jeblome is back.

I don't care what you think. You are nobody to me.

[Gulliversrubadub]

I see heywood jeblome is back.

I don't care what you think. You are nobody to me.

Some people refuse to grow up and be adults.

[KIBeast]

And you assume by reading a couple of paragraphs that you know everything about me. Like I said before, get over yourself.

[BoddaH1994]

Stop the immature crap or I'm closing the topic.

[Kat_RPW_employee]

ok go look at all the other paramount parks. seriously, they're ALL better than PKI. we need somethin bad. they have the room, seriously. they need to get rid of that stupid "launch pad" by The Vortex, and there is space back between Vortex and action FX they could make use of.

IMO the one ride they need to get rid of is Adventure Express. Sorry kiddies, but i've never seen this ride popular. i still ride it out of pure boredom only.

I agree PKI needs something, but I don't think a supersonic hyper coaster is the thing b/c a lot of ppl, myself included, cannot ride that kind of ride. I have asthma, and a fear of falling (like, Son of Beast is enough to scare me) so i wouldn't be able to go on it.

I think they need a ride like anaconda at PKD, or just something wild, but something that asthmatic ppl can still go on and not have respitory failure (and yes TRTR does give me fits, but i still enjoy it lol.)

they should do another stand up ride, because they removed King Cobra before I was tall enough to go on it.

PKI needs to do to the main park what they did to the kiddie area. kiddie area isn't that big... but they put in a lot of attrations in a little space. the other half of action FX theater isn't used, they could do construction on that lol

but I do agree we need something new. IJ just didn't cut it. fun, but too short and not exciting enough.

[Kat_RPW_employee]

It's always been a FAMILY AMUSEMENT PARK. Wake up! Over the years, I have seen way more families than lone teenagers and coaster enthusiasts. So, now they say they want to cater to a demographic that they have been catering to for years. Duh! They've always done just that. Sorry, IJ:Stunt Crap doesn't cut it as a coaster, family or not. My point was, you don't have to build crappy family coasters like Italian Job because families were already riding the coasters that they already have. Case closed!

you know, IJ is actually very popular because of the special effects. It's NOT crappy. if it was crappy it wouldn't be one-of-a-kind.

IJ is not another "crappy family ride" YES it's a family ride, but no, it's not crappy. I agree they should have done a lot more with it considering the amount of space they had, but it's not crappy. it's just short. short, but fun.

stop whining about what you hate at PKI and voicing your hateful opinion. PKI is not going to listen to the few who think it sucks when majority people like it.

And the sad thing is, you are probably one of the ones who had to go on it in order to decide it sucks. If you don't like PKI, simple... don't come back. no one likes people who just go to amusement parks to whine about how much they hate it. I happen to love PKI and am proud to work there.