beastrider5334 Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 I cant figure out why pki would take out King Cobra to put in the Delurium, now pki has no stand up coaster and from what i hear over the net stand up coasters are some of the funniest coasters going...and the more coasters the better! Heres what i say expand some of the land for King Cobra and get that thing out of the weeds and put it back togethor so me and so many others can have the thrill of a lifetime, oh one more thing when i went to pki over the weekend i missed something so bad and later i remembered what it was it was when i was at 6 flags the week before and i rode the great stand up coaster Chang and after i left i relized i want to go back to 6 flags because of it,,,please bring KC back! Quote
Firefall Pkd Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 One word: Why? Personally I can't wait for the day that KD says they are removing Shockwave. It takes up far too much space on a prime piece of land on the main midway where something much better could be sitting. Quote
TheeMatt Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 King Cobra needed to be torn down... sad, yes... but it was getting old and every coaster has to come to an end sometime... If I remember right... it had a lot of down-time before it was torn down... If you look upi King Cobra on RCDB it says that the track is still in storage and you can see it when you ride SOB... The trains are in the Outer Limits building... Quote
Gordon Bombay Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 There was/still is a big difference between a togo stand up and a B&M stand up. Quote
RailRider Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Delerium is a much better attraction than King Cobra. Not to mention KC was becoming more and more dificult to repair, because TOGO doesnt exist anymore. Quote
WooferBearATL Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Delirium better than King Cobra? Man, them are some powerful drugs! Quote
CoastersRZ Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Well, the fact that Togo was no longer in existance and replacement parts were harder to get for it is not true. Premier Rides, with whom Paramount Parks has worked with extensively over the years, is responsible for Togo`s North American parts division. The problem with King Cobra was that the park was constantly having to get replacement parts and the ride was becoming less and less reliable. It got to a point where the park decided that it was better to remove it than deal with all the problems. Much like an old car. At a certain point you will get tired of always fixing it and it still breaking down. You will then go out an buy a new car. And for PKI that new "car" was Delirium. Quote
WooferBearATL Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Well, the fact that Togo was no longer in existance and replacement parts were harder to get for it is not true. Premier Rides, with whom Paramount Parks has worked with extensively over the years, is responsible for Togo`s North American parts division. The problem with King Cobra was that the park was constantly having to get replacement parts and the ride was becoming less and less reliable. It got to a point where the park decided that it was better to remove it than deal with all the problems. Much like an old car. At a certain point you will get tired of always fixing it and it still breaking down. You will then go out an buy a new car. And for PKI that new "car" was Delirium. Hmmm, you just described SOB. Quote
The Interpreter Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 That's what I thought about TOGO...besides, Paramount Parks (and Las Vegas's New York, New York Casino) have no issues with getting parts for their parks in Virginia and Canada. . . Quote
hauntguy Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 I hope, KI just gets a new stand-up, like Chang! Forget Cobra... I want a stand-up twister! -Hauntguy Quote
The Interpreter Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Methinks the days of stand-ups, which I saw as mostly a novelty, are mostly gone. . . Quote
WooferBearATL Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Methinks the days of stand-ups, which I saw as mostly a novelty, are mostly gone. . . It's all cyclical. You know that. They'll be back into fad in time. Quote
The Interpreter Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 With any luck, after I have gone on to my next life... You see, I have ridden Mantis. . . Quote
Shaggy Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 It's gone... it's not coming back... move on. Shaggy Quote
Gordon Bombay Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 because TOGO doesnt exist anymore. Togo still thrives as a coaster making company in Japan, I believe they've built two new coasters this year over seas. Their U.S. headquarters were once in Cincinnati. Quote
Browntggrr Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Even though TOGO is still around in some type of capacity, KC was an older ride and through engineering advancements, the rides are significantly different today. Even though it was difficult to get parts, it is not impossible. But the question KI must of asked themselves was that: is it worth the trouble/ cost of maintaining the ride? ... obviously not. Quote
beastrider5334 Posted July 22, 2006 Author Posted July 22, 2006 have you guys that have no faith in stand-ups not rode Chang at 6 flags? if not go ride it because its new and one of the most outstanding rides being a stand-up,,,there not going out of style, heck Chang out ranks alot of coasters @ pki but not my favorite The Beast.. Quote
Browntggrr Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 have you guys that have no faith in stand-ups not rode Chang at 6 flags? if not go ride it because its new and one of the most outstanding rides being a stand-up,,,there not going out of style, heck Chang out ranks alot of coasters @ pki but not my favorite The Beast.. There is a reason that the last stand-up coaster was built back in '99. It is a gimmick coaster, just like suspended coasters. I would be shocked if a new stand-up is even built in the next 5 years. Quote
WooferBearATL Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 There is a reason that the last stand-up coaster was built back in '99. It is a gimmick coaster, just like suspended coasters. I would be shocked if a new stand-up is even built in the next 5 years. I agree. Those Steel Coasters are kinda just a Fad too don't ya think? Quote
PKIVortex Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Also I heard that King Cobra was made out of Japanese steel which isn't as strong as American steel. The fact that steel was getting weak was another reason King Cobra went bye bye. They used to weld that ride almost daily. I always seen them doing something in the loop area. Quote
WooferBearATL Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Also I heard that King Cobra was made out of Japanese steel which isn't as strong as American steel. The fact that steel was getting weak was another reason King Cobra went bye bye. They used to weld that ride almost daily. I always seen them doing something in the loop area. I hear that Vortex is sinking too. <G> Quote
teenageninja Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Delirium OWNS King Cobra, KC was a great ride, but Delirium is a better ride. KC is probably not going to operate, the steel is probably weak and rusted after sitting in that field for like 3 years. Quote
The Interpreter Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 And we all know just how much more reliable Delirium has been that pesky King Cobra. . . Quote
PKIVortex Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Yeah Delirium has had it's far share of down time since '03. However the last few times I went, it seemed to be running pretty good, at full swing. Quote
The Interpreter Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 I don't know about that. When I want MaXair, I go to Cedar Point! Quote
Captain Nemo Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 Well, the fact that Togo was no longer in existance and replacement parts were harder to get for it is not true. Premier Rides, with whom Paramount Parks has worked with extensively over the years, is responsible for Togo`s North American parts division. The problem with King Cobra was that the park was constantly having to get replacement parts and the ride was becoming less and less reliable. It got to a point where the park decided that it was better to remove it than deal with all the problems. Much like an old car. At a certain point you will get tired of always fixing it and it still breaking down. You will then go out an buy a new car. And for PKI that new "car" was Delirium. Hmmm, you just described SOB. My gosh, I had a feeling someone was going to say this! Can we PLEASE look past the coaster and worry more about the people who were on it! I remember the last time I ever saw King Cobra, stuck on the lift hill. I made a promise that I would ride it in 2003 (before I knew it was being torn down) but of corse I never got that chance. ~sigh... and wooferbear, Vortex is not sinking.~ Quote
HelixSpiral Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 ~sigh... and wooferbear, Vortex is not sinking.~ Ummm, I'm pretty sure he was kidding. Hence the <G>. the steel is probably weak and rusted after sitting in that field for like 3 years As opposed to when it sat outside in Wild Animal Habitat/AdVil/AZ from 1984 to 2002. Quote
The Interpreter Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 But at the time it was painted with no exposed ends from being dismantled. . . It was also meticulously maintained. . ., whereas for the past several years it has been totally ignored. Quote
BoddaH1994 Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 King Cobra needed to be torn down... sad, yes... but it was getting old and every coaster has to come to an end sometime... If I remember right... it had a lot of down-time before it was torn down... If you look upi King Cobra on RCDB it says that the track is still in storage and you can see it when you ride SOB... The trains are in the Outer Limits building... King Cobra photos can be seen here. Check out that gallery for a Flight of Fear tour in which the KC trains were spotted. Quote
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