Kenban Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 PGA had stealth. As I recall, it was removed from PGA in order to expand their waterpark to Boomarang Bay. It went to Carowinds and became the Borg Asimilator. I have never been to Geauga lake, are they strapped for space, like Knotts Berry Farm? I just hope that KI doesn't become the "land of misfit rides" from all of the other parks. Geauga Lake has enough space to expand for years. Even if they somehow use it all then they have a large lake in the middle of the park that could have rides built out over. If you go to maps.google.com and just type in Geauga Lake it will pop up as the first option just click it and just zoom in. Then click satellite in the upper right. X-flight is the coaster out on the west side of the park next to the parking lot. The photos are a few years out of date its while Wildwater Kingdom was being built on what used to be Seaworld. It is hard to tell from the photos just how much land is left because large sections of the Seaworld side are unused and the Geauga Lake side was in the process of having the old water park removed. But there is land available. Also from the photos you can see just how close X-flight is to a major road which is way we would all know the day something were to happen.
CoastersRZ Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 Well, they are reportedly clearing land at Kings Island. Take that for what its worth. But I agree, the time schedule is very short. If Kings Island is getting a new ride for next year, they better hurry up and get a start on it. They don`t have much time.
flightoffear1996 Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 So the way you talk rollercoasterz yuo know what hte park is getting? I don't see X-Flight being moved nor Kings Island getting a major thrill ride or rollercoaster for 2007 it just seems to late to start building any of that.
Gordon Bombay Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 ^well I mean with all your experience in engineering and relocating and designing attractions I guess you could say that. *rolls eyes* But when did RZ he knew what we are getting? He said land was being cleared behind The Racer, and everyone with him and myself on PKIC day saw it to. He never said he knew what it was for, for all we know they could be replacing the grass.
CoastersRZ Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 ^ Are you referring to me? Do I know what the park is getting next year? Perhaps. But even if I did know, I wouldn`t be able to tell you what the park is getting until the park announces it.
RailRider Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 Heres a question of the obvious, but where are all the footers at KI for X Flight? Oh thats right it will be mounted to trailers so Cedar Fair can randomly move it from park to park every year.
CoastersRZ Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 Grrr. This is the architect in me speaking, but "footers" are slang terminology. The correct technical technology is footings. Just like it is a concrete sidewalk, and not a cement sidewalk. Cement is the ingrediant in concrete that allows it to cure and become hard. There is also water, sand and aggregate mixed in with the cement in the concrete mix. I could go into a whole long spiel about all the stuff I learned about concrete from my structures classes last winter, but most people would find that boring. Not to mention this is not the place to have that discussion. 1
harvesterofyoursorrow Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 Footers can be poured quickly. If in fact X-Flight is moving to PKI, I would not see it opening for the 07 season.
PKIDelirium Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 Even if they could get the footers done in time, it takes quite a while to dismantle a ride like that, ship it, do any necessary maintenance, then rebuild the ride and get all the systems installed. I'd say 2008.
PhantomTheater Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 PGA had stealth. As I recall, it was removed from PGA in order to expand their waterpark to Boomarang Bay. It went to Carowinds and became the Borg Asimilator. I have never been to Geauga lake, are they strapped for space, like Knotts Berry Farm? I just hope that KI doesn't become the "land of misfit rides" from all of the other parks. Geauga Lake has enough space to expand for years. Even if they somehow use it all then they have a large lake in the middle of the park that could have rides built out over. If you go to maps.google.com and just type in Geauga Lake it will pop up as the first option just click it and just zoom in. Then click satellite in the upper right. X-flight is the coaster out on the west side of the park next to the parking lot. The photos are a few years out of date its while Wildwater Kingdom was being built on what used to be Seaworld. It is hard to tell from the photos just how much land is left because large sections of the Seaworld side are unused and the Geauga Lake side was in the process of having the old water park removed. But there is land available. Also from the photos you can see just how close X-flight is to a major road which is way we would all know the day something were to happen. Yes, Geauga Lake has tons of room, there is even land behind the parking lot they own. Also, all of the houses on Fairview Ave (the street behind shamu stadium) are owned by CF. The lake however is an intresting situation, it is debated on who actual owns it, and also the city of Aurora wont alow building on the lake (the bridge is a floating bridge and can be moved, thus it is allowed). Finnaly, Aurora has a 180 or 190 ft limit on rides on the north (rides) side, and it is belived that SF might have been sranted a 210 limit on a portion of the south side.
The Interpreter Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 Not only can that floating bridge be moved, it has been recently. It used to be about 1/2 way across the lake from where it is now.
PkiJake13 Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 If we got X-Flight it doesn't have to pen with the park in April. IJST opened in May a month after the park had been open, other parks don't open with there knew stuff sometimes. -Jake
Captain Picard Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 I have got to drive by GL on a weekend and end the X-Flight rumor one way or the other. Maybe they are going to get the helicopter tours back and someone thought they said X-Flight.
ragerunner Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 I have got to drive by GL on a weekend and end the X-Flight rumor one way or the other. Maybe they are going to get the helicopter tours back and someone thought they said X-Flight. I think that would be a lot of help with this topic. It just seems like someone in the GL area would have driven by to see if X looks like it is being removed?
Gordon Bombay Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 ^You can only see the taller parts of the coaster from the road, not necesarily the station or que or anything, for that youd have to be in the parking lot and owuld have to be an employee.
KIBeast Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 Apparently, someone has been to GL and say they see no dismantling. Coasterbuzz X-Flight Removal Rumors
Captain Picard Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 Well I don't need to make the trip if they was just there and seen.
flightoffear1996 Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 I am trying not to be a person that spreads alot of rumors around the internet but I was talking to someone in one of my classes who is a Potato Works guy and he said they will be getting some thing kind of like Flight of Fear. I don't know if there is any truth to this what so ever but that is just waht I heard. I don't even really see that happening.
CoastersRZ Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Something like Flight of Fear? I don`t think so. Something by Flight of Fear, well we will have to wait and see on that one...
flightoffear1996 Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 yea I wasn't too sure about the rumor but you never really no what to beleive.
Shman Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Interesting............. Park News - (11/16/06) Things just got a little more complex this week. The rumors about X-Flight being removed are still going strong and adding to this are photos of a survey company van parked inside the X-Flight area. If that wasn’t odd enough, a quick lookup of the survey company’s website shows they are from the Cincinnati area. You can find these photos over at Geauga Lake Today. Again... this just doesn’t make any sense at all to me if they are really planning to move the coaster to PKI. It would have about the same effect as moving the ride to Cedar Point. Everyone interested in X-Flight has likely already made the trip to Geauga Lake to try it out over the last few years.
The Interpreter Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 a. I ASSUME that is from Screamscape. b. Lance makes his usual mistake, assuming the general public is the same as enthusiasts. EVERYONE in the Cinci area (about 95 percent of them, anyway) hasn't even heard of X Flight, and probably at least half don't even think about Geauga Lake once every five years. X Flight would be a NEW coaster to almost all attendees of Cedar Fair's Kings Island. Not to mention that the coaster would bring a new bounce to Kings Island that it never really did at Geauga Lake, even when it WAS new at the then Six Flags Ohio. c. Put another way, Lance's comments don't seem to fly.
Captain Picard Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 I don't think they would need a survey company to move it. They should have all that info from when it was built and installed the first time. I think they could be working on a theme change for X-Flight and Borg Assimulator if anything. I haven't seen anything that would make me think they was moving it yet.
KIBeast Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 They are also saying the same thing over at Geauga Lake Today. Don't know if it carries any weight or not. There's a pic at the bottom asking if you notice anything missing. I'm not sure what they are talking about, so anyone see anything missing?
Captain Picard Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 They said track has been removed on the lift on a different site. Then their post has been edited to remove that part. That would make you think they don't know what they are talking about.
ragerunner Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 This is starting to get interesting. The people at Geauga Lake Today seem to think something may be up.
Captain Picard Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 The only thing thats up is someone trying to make something out of nothing. IMO
CoasterXtreme Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Hey Guys, Ok at first I thought this was a bunch of crap, but over at http://www.geaugalaketoday.com/ they have broken a story about how a Cinncy surveying company has been spotted at GL. Now I am scratching my head maybe we are getting it.
Captain Picard Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Yes and they are the one's that made the post of the track was removed first thing today. It looks like it is there to me. They have gone back and edited that post and removed the part about the track.
KIBeast Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Ok, I can't tell if there's track on the lift hill or not in that photo in the link I provided. Is that wha'ts supposed to be missing?
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