Ice Show Returns to Paramount Theater

[A_Titanic_Mess]

Starting in 2007, the ice show will return to the Paramount Theater. Several of the Cedar Fair parks have had ice shows for many years. Cedar Point has the "Snoopy on Ice" show, but no word if the Kings Island show will be the same. Kings Island is holding auditions for figure skaters here in Cincinnati on February 22nd.

[PKIVortex]

For Some reason I don't think it will be called the Paramount Theater next year.

[The Interpreter]

It'd be even nicer if that ice skating were also to return to a well-lit Fest Haus!

[PKIVortex]

I have a feeling Kings Island will have lots of shows next season. Which is a good thing for sure. Last year was horrible, not the quality of the shows they had, but the lack of shows.

[A_Titanic_Mess]

For Some reason I don't think it will be called the Paramount Theater next year.

In the e-mail sent out by the Entertainment Ops Manager, they are still calling it Paramount Theater. However, the heading on the e-mail lists the park just as "Kings Island". Guess they are still going through the transition phase!

[PKIDelirium]

Viacom/CBS only owns the rights to Paramount relating to movies and TV. I've seen musical type theaters called Paramount.

They could also leave Top Gun as Top Gun as long as movie references are removed.

[The Interpreter]

Uh, the musical type theaters called Paramount were licensed years ago by Paramount Studios. There are several left...the nearest to you is probably the one in Ashland, Kentucky:

http://www.paramountartscenter.com/index.c...ubPage=building

http://www.paramountartscenter.com/index.cfm?page=history

In addition to Ashland, Kentucky, there are Paramount theaters in Denver, Colorado; Aurora, Illinois; Oakland, California; Cedar Rapids, Iowa; Abilene, Texas; Bristol, Tennessee; Seattle, Washington; Charlottesville, Virginia; Anderson, Indiana; Austin, Texas; and Springfield, Massachusetts.

[PKIDelirium]

Whoops.... k scratch that then!

[Skywriter]

Starting in 2007, the ice show will return to the Paramount Theater. Several of the Cedar Fair parks have had ice shows for many years. Cedar Point has the "Snoopy on Ice" show, but no word if the Kings Island show will be the same. Kings Island is holding auditions for figure skaters here in Cincinnati on February 22nd.

Where did you find this???

[PKIVortex]

Yeah but I have slight feeling it won't be called Paramount Theater come April 21st.

[Shman]

QUOTE(A_Titanic_Mess @ Jan 25 2007, 08:26 PM)

Starting in 2007, the ice show will return to the Paramount Theater. Several of the Cedar Fair parks have had ice shows for many years. Cedar Point has the "Snoopy on Ice" show, but no word if the Kings Island show will be the same. Kings Island is holding auditions for figure skaters here in Cincinnati on February 22nd.

Where did you find this???

I can confirm this news as true. In fact I've been wanting to say something about this for awhile....but wasn't sure if it was public yet. I even hinted to it awhile ago in another topic when I said "The return of something I think everyone will enjoy."

The show will actually be a little different from the "Snoopy on Ice" shows as CP and KBF. In fact of what I've heard Snoopy will not appear in this show.

The Auditions for skaters will be held at Sports Plus on the 22nd of Feb. from 10-12.

[PKIVortex]

What about Nickelodeon Cartoons?

[Shman]

And yes....there will be vast improvement to the entertainment department this year. I would like to see if they announce the line up during the 2007 announcement. There are going to be multiple shows throughout the park, the ice show, a live music show, a childrens show, and more.

[PKIVortex]

Sounds good to me. Believe it or not, I like to go to each show at least once per year, sometimes more if it's a good show. Looks like 07 will be a blast.

[The Interpreter]

I'm telling you, I am more and more liking what I am hearing.

If, however, that Lumberjack show from Geauga Lake is the type of stuff you are talking about (and it was at the park on July 4 last year), I'd just as soon watch other people climb the Purple Bridge...

[tycoonrebel7188]

Maybe CF will use the theater in Nick Universe for something other than the Cartoon Meet-and-Greet. It's a great place for the meet-and-greet but it could have so much more potential.

[PKIVortex]

That would take a lot of work, as the took the stage out, and filled the area in with concrete, they even took the benches out.

[A_Titanic_Mess]

Starting in 2007, the ice show will return to the Paramount Theater. Several of the Cedar Fair parks have had ice shows for many years. Cedar Point has the "Snoopy on Ice" show, but no word if the Kings Island show will be the same. Kings Island is holding auditions for figure skaters here in Cincinnati on February 22nd.

Where did you find this???

I received an e-mail about it today from a former co-worker still at the park. here is the message...

Kings Island

ICE SKATER AUDITIONS

Thursday, February 22nd

10:00am to Noon

SPORTS PLUS ICE RINKS

10765 Reading Road

Cincinnati, Ohio 45241

Looking for Cincinnati-based ice figure skaters, eighteen years and older, with a high degree of skating proficiency: preferably with extensive professional ice show experience, though new talent is welcome. Looking for male and female ensemble skaters capable of all double jumps, combination spins, jazz and hip hop dance background and great theatrical presentation. Also casting for male and female solo and pair/adagio positions.

If you are unable to attend the audition, please send skating video/DVD resume along with all contact information, no later than March 16, 2007 to either of the following:

Karen Kresge-Director/Choreographer Kevin Brunck- Kings Island Entertainment Dept.

29 Toledo Way 6300 Kings Island Drive

San Francisco, CA 94123 Kings Island, Ohio 45034

We are bringing back a summer ice show in the Paramount Theatre. If you have any questions about the auditions, please email me or call me, and I will be happy to assist. Thank you!

Removed some private information.

[flightoffear1996]

Hey that job is just right for me!

[WooferBearATL]

Ya know, it's only January and the more I hear .... the more I like.

CF keeps this up and in no time folk are gonna be saying Para who?

[Cory Butcher]

on the Top Gun reference...Cedar Fair will not have to remove the Top Gun movie references...the trademark for the movies name expired long ago, and I believe That all previously owned intellectual property can be kept by the new tenents.

[hauntguy]

I am SO GLAD that Ent. will get alot better this year. I am SO excited to see how Fearfest turns out this year!

I can't wait to see the new Ice show... anybody remember the old ice shows... all I can say is, ABOUT TIME! -Hauntguy

[BoddaH1994]

on the Top Gun reference...Cedar Fair will not have to remove the Top Gun movie references...the trademark for the movies name expired long ago, and I believe That all previously owned intellectual property can be kept by the new tenents.

I highly highly doubt that's true.

[WooferBearATL]

Trademark registration rights can last indefinitely where as copyrights or patents will expire. The owner of the trademark simply needs mark the goods or services as trademarked.

For federal trademarks it lasts for 10 years and needs to be renewed every 10 years.

I would think that a property such as Top Gun would remain trademarked by Paramount.

[The Interpreter]

Except, except, except....movie NAMES cannot be copyrighted (or trademarked...). Why this is has been pondered by many, but it matters not, it is the way it is.

But...it is clear that that ride name refers not just to a name, but to the movie that IS Top Gun in the public mind. Cedar Fair has the right to continue that theming and concept for up to ten years from the date of acquisition according to the announced details of the agreement. Whether or not they choose to do (and what the financial implications of that may be) is proprietary information that Cedar Fair will reveal if and when they choose to, and not before.

The Top Gun movie itself is still copyrighted, and will be for quite some time. Its themes, concepts and story line cannot be copied by others without risk of being prosecuted for violation of the copyright rights of the owner thereof.

And no, Woofer, federal trademarks do NOT expire as such, if they did, we would all be seeing thousands of beverages, each being called Pepsi or Coke. And copyrights now last at least 50 years beyond the death of the original author, in most cases.

[RailRider]

^

Thank you Interpreter for the clarification on copyright law.

Anyways I am excited to see tha new entertainment is coming to KI. About time the park has more than 1 show. Also can we please have an ice show back in the Festhaus? Maybe that is why the stage was uncovered at the end of last year?

Lets see so far Cedar Fair has taken on the challenge of fixing the existing issues at KI, by trying to make SoB safer, smoother, and more enjoyable, adding more shows instead of just having 1, and they have thrown in a pretty nice coaster in X-Flight. Lets see only other issues that need addressed would be dining locations inside the park and general park asthetics. Oh yeah and they got rid of the stupid parking pass decal. So far if everything holds true this could be a rebirth of Kings Island.

(RailRider giddy with excitement right now while he sips on the Cedar Fair KoolAid)

[Shman]

The ice show will be in the Paramount Theatre, not in the festhaus. The current state of the Festhaus does not allow for much in the way of entertainment, they removed most of the stage years ago and what is left of the stage is now used for storage. The small circular stage used for Winterfest would be a possiblity for housing a small show in their, but I dont think we will be seeing that soon.

[jzarley]

And no, Woofer, federal trademarks do NOT expire as such, if they did, we would all be seeing thousands of beverages, each being called Pepsi or Coke. And copyrights now last at least 50 years beyond the death of the original author, in most cases.

I think you may have misread Woofer's point here... I read him as saying that a trademark is good for ten years, but must be renewed every ten years to remain active (for an indefinite period of time.) This is true if the orginal trademark was registered after 11/16/1989 (the initial registration is good for 20 years if registered before that date...) Here's the exact wording from the US Patent & Trademark office on terms & renewal:

TERM AND RENEWAL

§2.181 Term of original registrations and renewals.

(a)(1) Subject to the provisions of section 8 of the Act requiring an affidavit or declaration of continued use or excusable nonuse, registrations issued or renewed prior to November 16, 1989, whether on the Principal Register or on the Supplemental Register, remain in force for twenty years from their date of issue or the date of renewal, and may be further renewed for periods of ten years, unless previously cancelled or surrendered.

(2) Subject to the provisions of section 8 of the Act requiring an affidavit or declaration of continued use or excusable nonuse, registrations issued or renewed on or after November 16, 1989, whether on the Principal Register or on the Supplemental Register, remain in force for ten years from their date of issue or the date of renewal, and may be further renewed for periods of ten years, unless previously cancelled or surrendered.

( Registrations issued under the Acts of 1905 and 1881 remain in force for their unexpired terms and may be renewed in the same manner as registrations under the Act of 1946.

© Registrations issued under the Act of 1920 cannot be renewed unless renewal is required to support foreign registrations and in such case may be renewed on the Supplemental Register in the same manner as registrations under the Act of 1946.

[30 FR 13193, Oct. 16, 1965, as amended at 54 FR 37597, Sept. 11, 1989; 64 FR 48900, Sept. 8, 1999, effective Oct. 30, 1999]

So, basically you can keep a trademark as long as you actively use it, and as long as you renew it prior to its expiration every ten years. In theory a trademark can be valid indefinitely as long as the owner maintains it (which is the point I believe both Interpreter and Woofer were making...)

The full trademark law can be viewed at:

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/tac/tmlaw2.html

[WooferBearATL]

And no, Woofer, federal trademarks do NOT expire as such, if they did, we would all be seeing thousands of beverages, each being called Pepsi or Coke. And copyrights now last at least 50 years beyond the death of the original author, in most cases.

Please read my post again.

You usually don't miss what's being said? I'll chalk it up to being early.

And no, Woofer, federal trademarks do NOT expire as such, if they did, we would all be seeing thousands of beverages, each being called Pepsi or Coke. And copyrights now last at least 50 years beyond the death of the original author, in most cases.

I think you may have misread Woofer's point here... I read him as saying that a trademark is good for ten years, but must be renewed every ten years to remain active (for an indefinite period of time.) This is true if the orginal trademark was registered after 11/16/1989 (the initial registration is good for 20 years if registered before that date...) Here's the exact wording from the US Patent & Trademark office on terms & renewal:

TERM AND RENEWAL

§2.181 Term of original registrations and renewals.

(a)(1) Subject to the provisions of section 8 of the Act requiring an affidavit or declaration of continued use or excusable nonuse, registrations issued or renewed prior to November 16, 1989, whether on the Principal Register or on the Supplemental Register, remain in force for twenty years from their date of issue or the date of renewal, and may be further renewed for periods of ten years, unless previously cancelled or surrendered.

(2) Subject to the provisions of section 8 of the Act requiring an affidavit or declaration of continued use or excusable nonuse, registrations issued or renewed on or after November 16, 1989, whether on the Principal Register or on the Supplemental Register, remain in force for ten years from their date of issue or the date of renewal, and may be further renewed for periods of ten years, unless previously cancelled or surrendered.

( Registrations issued under the Acts of 1905 and 1881 remain in force for their unexpired terms and may be renewed in the same manner as registrations under the Act of 1946.

© Registrations issued under the Act of 1920 cannot be renewed unless renewal is required to support foreign registrations and in such case may be renewed on the Supplemental Register in the same manner as registrations under the Act of 1946.

[30 FR 13193, Oct. 16, 1965, as amended at 54 FR 37597, Sept. 11, 1989; 64 FR 48900, Sept. 8, 1999, effective Oct. 30, 1999]

So, basically you can keep a trademark as long as you actively use it, and as long as you renew it prior to its expiration every ten years. In theory a trademark can be valid indefinitely as long as the owner maintains it (which is the point I believe both Interpreter and Woofer were making...)

The full trademark law can be viewed at:

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/tac/tmlaw2.html

What He Said! <G>

[Shman]

Can we please not make this thread into yet another argument that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

The topic of this thread is the virtual announcement of a new Ice Show at Kings Island......even though it wasn't "officially" announced, I think that them sending out information about seeking skaters is enough of one to finally talk about it.