The Interpreter Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 My guess is they probably changed [Diet Mountain Dew] to Splenda as the artificial sweetener, which has a more natural sugar like taste, and allows the diet formula to taste more like the regular version. Actually, the tuned up taste formula does not contain Splenda (I looked yesterday, just for you!). Splenda seems to have been a miserable failure in diet carbonated beverages. Seven-Up just switched back to aspartame, blended with ACE-K. The new stuff has a green circle on it with a notation of "Now More Lemon Lime Taste." It is far superior to the Splenda version. http://www.salutetosoda.com/viewtopic.php?...9d26db7f943d92f And see also: http://www.salutetosoda.com/viewtopic.php?t=1505 The addition of ACE K to aspartame seems to result in a more natural tasting product than does Splenda, and at less cost. Coke Zero uses the same blend of sweeteners. The company that makes Splenda is actually in a bit of financial distress because North American sales to beverage makers are now far below expectations. The Diet Coke with Splenda has languished on the shelves. Pepsi ONE has moved even slower than that. Be all that as it may, I still wonder which beverage company we will see in the former Paramount Parks when the season begins. I guess we will find out at Carowinds on March 24. Though they could change later in the season, I suspect if they are going to change it will be before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkifreakhogg Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 God i would kill for a mountain dew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delirium13 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 The addition of ACE K to aspartame seems to result in a more natural tasting product than does Splenda, and at less cost. Coke Zero uses the same blend of sweeteners. I wondered how they made Coke Zero taste like regular Coke (for the most part) in Coke Zero. I tried some when it first came out and for the most aprt it tasted just like a regular Coke, the only differec was that the flavors seemed kind of toned down so I still drink regular. But for those of you looking for somehting a litlle bit healtier, but still love the regular Coke taste, I highly recommend Coke Zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkiguy19 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 i highly doubt that Kings Island will switch over to Pepsi. im not familiar with any contractual agreements with Coke but i would imagine they exist. i do know, however, that one of the main reasons why Coke will remain in the park is because all of the lines that transport the syrup are technically owned and were put in by Coke. if the park switched to Pepsi, it would be a pain in the ass to remove all the lines and put Pepsi's in and it would cost too much. p.s. im sick of people on this site posting who don't know what they are talking about. pretty much if you don't work in the park, you don't know anything about what/why anything is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Yea I forgot about all the equipment is owned by the pop vender. I would like to see some Slush Puppies in the park though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutedarkness Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 ICEE is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Errrrrrr. Unless things have changed, all the beverage lines were put in my food service maintenance. Coke had nothing to do with it other than supply the equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkifreakhogg Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Icee ya those would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 I can just see it now... Icee/Frozen Coke...$6.00 (price includes tax) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Also, the syrup lines are soooo long, and even if they were Coke owned, everyone "knows" Pepsico is incapable of installing and having those lines operating in, oh, about a week. Yeah, right. Sorry, but just because you worked at the park or do now doesn't mean you know squat about the high levels of the beverage business. Some of us here are or were deeply involved in food service from a management standpoint, some know the ins and outs of contracts, some are marketing experts, etc. Many who fit these categories got their experience either outside the park or even in management positions in the park. P.S. (slightly modified): im sick of people on this site posting who don't know what they are talking about. who pretty much belive that if you do work in the park, you know everything and anything about what/why things are happening. and that if you do not work in the park, you can't know anything about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 ^ ^ Very nicely put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Also, the syrup lines are soooo long, and even if they were Coke owned, everyone "knows" Pepsico is incapable of installing and having those lines operating in, oh, about a week. Yeah, right. Sorry, but just because you worked at the park or do now doesn't mean you know squat about the high levels of the beverage business. Some of us here are or were deeply involved in food service from a management standpoint, some know the ins and outs of contracts, some are marketing experts, etc. Many who fit these categories got their experience either outside the park or even in management positions in the park. P.S. (slightly modified): im sick of people on this site posting who don't know what they are talking about. who pretty much belive that if you do work in the park, you know everything and anything about what/why things are happening. and that if you do not work in the park, you can't know anything about anything. In fact, most of the lines were changed over when the park went from tanks to fast flow bag in a box drinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeLorean Rider Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I remember changing the syrup boxes at La'Rosas and the boxes were in the back of the store and the CO2 tank was behind the store. Then the lines ran directly to the taps. I guess thats considered long? Also pardon my ignorance but wouldnt you be able to hook up a Pepsi syrup bag up to the Coke line and Pepsi would come out just fine? I mean I know each spout has its own mixture between the syrup and and CO2 but I'm sure each soda has its own finite amount that you would set on the machine. Once it was set couldnt you just plug and chug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I remember changing the syrup boxes at La'Rosas and the boxes were in the back of the store and the CO2 tank was behind the store. Then the lines ran directly to the taps. I guess thats considered long? Also pardon my ignorance but wouldnt you be able to hook up a Pepsi syrup bag up to the Coke line and Pepsi would come out just fine? I mean I know each spout has its own mixture between the syrup and and CO2 but I'm sure each soda has its own finite amount that you would set on the machine. Once it was set couldnt you just plug and chug? The lines and connections are the same but I'm certain that the actual equipment would need to be swapped out for Pepsi Equipment. That's usually not an issue for any bottler to do. It's really a relatively easy process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I can't stand the water that comes out of the water fountains at KI. It just doesn't gross. Now the free water they give you at stands taste pretty good, as the pop machine filters it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIDelirium Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Every time I get water from a stand, it tastes like that orange slice type stuff, I guess they use the same tap. Even got ORANGE water one last season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Yeah at most stands the water comes out of the Minute Maid tap. If you don't let the water run for a second or so before you fill up the cup, you will get an orange tent to the water, even a slight taste of Minute Maid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkifreakhogg Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Watered down minute maid yummy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I hate asking for the water because the cups are so small why not just give you a full sized cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 One the full sized cut cost the park more money. Granted the smaller cups also cost the park money, but I'm guess it's not as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Well, there is probably a marketing reason why they give out the small cups for free. They make it so that you consistently have to go back for more free water. If that bugs people, they could BUY a larger cup of ice water, and thus the park will make money. So the size of the cup is linked to marketing principles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 My tip is to go ahead and buy one of the park refilable jugs, especially if you visit the park more than once. That way you can get free water refils at all the stands and if you need your soda fix you can get it filled with your favorite for less than the cost of buying one. Also you can always take it with you to the park the next time you go. This is the reasson I have a large collection of Cedar Point, Six Flags, IOA, Disney, and Kings Island jugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 The water is not filtered that comes out of the taps at the stands. It's the same water that comes out of the water fountains. The only difference is that you may be getting some of the taste that comes from the water running through the water fountain pipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomTheater Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 All of my waterbottles either have a coaster or an amusement park logo on the side . Those bottles are the way to go, fill em anywhere for a thirst quenching drink. The only proplem is having to put them in the sheves on rides, but after awile its second nature. It is CF policy that all food stands with a pop machine to give free ice water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 The water is not filtered that comes out of the taps at the stands. It's the same water that comes out of the water fountains. The only difference is that you may be getting some of the taste that comes from the water running through the water fountain pipes. Actually, all Coke vending equipment has filtered water...there are filters on the municipal line that are replaced and maintained by the servicing bottler... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 The water is not filtered that comes out of the taps at the stands. It's the same water that comes out of the water fountains. The only difference is that you may be getting some of the taste that comes from the water running through the water fountain pipes. Actually, all Coke vending equipment has filtered water...there are filters on the municipal line that are replaced and maintained by the servicing bottler... Not in the time that I was at Kings Island and not at the time that I was manager at Skolicks. If that is so, it's something that is new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Our pop machine in Food Avenue at Target has a filter for the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeLorean Rider Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 When I worked at La'Rosas, people would always complain that the minutemaid orange always tasted flat. We would always have to explain to them that it was un-carbonated becasue in order for there to be a water tap on the machine, there had to be at least one spout that did not have CO2 running through it and since Coke, diet Coke, cherry Coke, sprite, diet sprite, and mello yello just could not surivie flat, the choice was to make the minutemaid without CO2. This usually ended up in a replacement drink... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkifreakhogg Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 They really need mountain dew or dr. pepper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkiguy19 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 They really need mountain dew or dr. pepper. bubba gumps has dr. pepper to go along with the theme. but it's the only place in the park. (dr pepper is not owned by Coke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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