Browntggrr Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 An intreseting topic was brought up on another site. What is KI's policy on handicapped guests? Do they go to the front of every line for ride they are able to go on, or does it work like the parent swap program? I have not been to the park with a friend that was in a wheelchair, so I really have no clue as to what the park does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 In the past you got a little card that listed all of the major attractions. When you went to the exit of that ride you haded your card to an op. The op would mark a time on your card as to when you could come back to ride. Usually the time was the same length of what the line was. But the kicker was you could only wait for one major ride at a time. They started this because of people who were abusing the wheel chair policy. I'm not sure though if Cedar Fair has changed this policy though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Abusing the Wheel Chair Policy? Oh my Gawd! You didn't really say that!?!?! The darned people goin out and becoming handicapped so that they can get on rides quicker. That right there could be one of Paramount's craziests decisions and statements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tycoonrebel7188 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Woofer I don't think your taking what he said the right way. lol When he said abusing, he was likely reffering to the fact that there are always people that try to take advantage of the advantages they already have. People would go to many of the rides to get ride times and eventually get the same times and when they go up the exit to ride, they are way past their time and complain about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I think he might have been referring to those people that rent wheel chairs because they have a "limp" or an "injury." I use quotations around those words, because I think some people rent wheelchairs and claim that they have a disability so they don`t have to wait in the lines with everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplehaze Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Ok Ok I will never use a wheel chair again at KI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonafidefreak Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Like I said in another post. My wife has heel spurs..and the night before our trip to KI she got shots in her feet and could barely walk. We rented a wheelchair. Trust me...my wife would rather have walked if she could...and I would have preferred not to push her fat hiney all over the park. We were given the card..but non of the op's gave us times. They just put us in when they could. On Top Gun the op told us a time to come back and I told her ..I wasn't coming back...because that's on heck of a walk back there...and I wasn't pushing that chair back there twice. So we waited like 15 minutes and they put us on. KI would put themselves on a slippery slope if they denied anyone the right to "abuse" it. It's called the Persons with Disibiltys Act...and they can get sued i they denied anyone a spot on the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastergirl Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 ...and I would have preferred not to push her fat hiney all over the park. . I hope that she has a good sense of humor or YOU may be in a wheel chair the next time you go!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki Man Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I was asked on The Beast if a handicapped person could take my seat. I decided not to be a prick and say yes. So this fat person waddles over and gets in the car. WTF. That isn't handicapped! If they can't even walk around the park then don't come! Ugh I get so mad when this happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 The darned people goin out and becoming handicapped so that they can get on rides quicker. One of the stories I heard was that a gentleman in a wheelchair went up to the exit of Vortex, the ride operator asked the people that were next in line if they could wait one more cycle, the gentleman got on, rode, and then got off the ride. Then he turned around and did the same thing approximately 10 minutes later. I question the validity of the story, which is why I brought up the question. Now if it is true, I would consider it to be abusing the system. If he wanted to ride again, I have no problem with that. Just make it consecutive cycles, not the whole get on/ get off routine. I also have no problem with them going to the front of the line. But I also believe it should be limited to a policy where you & a guest can ride each ride twice a day for back-to-back cycles. If it is during the week where the park is not busy than it really is not that big of a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deidre1976 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I was asked on The Beast if a handicapped person could take my seat. I decided not to be a prick and say yes. So this fat person waddles over and gets in the car. WTF. That isn't handicapped! If they can't even walk around the park then don't come! Ugh I get so mad when this happens. Don't even go there! You have know clue what is going on inside of that persons body. It just goes to show we live in a world where we are judged by the way we look. What if they had a fatal condition and this was one of their last request. Would it have made any difference It they where fat and 80 years old or do you just hate overweight people. It makes you look prejudice against those who do not look like you. Think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I was asked on The Beast if a handicapped person could take my seat. I decided not to be a prick and say yes. So this fat person waddles over and gets in the car. WTF. That isn't handicapped! If they can't even walk around the park then don't come! Ugh I get so mad when this happens. Too Late, I'm thinkin your comment already makes ya a prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzarley Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 ADA requires "reasonable accomodation" and universal access. That doesn't mean a guarantee of immediate boarding on a ride. Each park seems to accomodate physically challenged guests as quickly as possible (as they should), but asking a guest to wait a few cycles for boarding is not a violation of ADA. There's a whole section of the ADA code designated specifically to amusement rides: http://www.access-board.gov/recreation/guides/amuse.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I think what he was trying to say when he was talking about "abuse" of the policy is when people rent wheelchairs simply to get in the front of the lines. I've actually heard of people claiming they've done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly1992 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I think what he was trying to say when he was talking about "abuse" of the policy is when people rent wheelchairs simply to get in the front of the lines. I've actually heard of people claiming they've done it. That's 100% true. I went to Cedar Point along with my entire 8th grade class last Friday. This one kid loaded the bus with a leg brace on that day. He rented a wheelchair and didn't wait for a single ride...him and 3 other friends. Yesterday he came to school and was miraculously healed. I think that unless you have a doctor's note or a cast, you should not be allowed to use those handicapped rights. I have a cast on my wrist right now. I've had it since last Tuesday...I could have rented a wheelchair and said my pain is so severe that I can't walk. It just upsets me when people cut in line by claiming to be invalid. Maybe someday they will have their legs cut off and will find out what it's truly like??? I don't know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 a. Many parks do not allow guests in casts to ride ANY coaster. b. A park subjects itself to possible liability and nearly certain litigation if it asks guests to "prove" their disability. This whole area is one that is very difficult for parks to deal with. c. I happen to believe there is a special place in hell for those who fake disabilities. As one who has, on many occasions, been the pusher of the wheelchair for disabled guests, I can certainly understand that the disabled are just as entitled to their amusements as anyone else. But for the able bodied to pretend disability in order to get special treatment is wrong, immoral and unfair to everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Yes I was talking about people who would just rent a wheel chair just to get on the ride faster. I worked at the park 3 seasons and trust me I've seen this happen more than once. I was not saying that KI shouldn't refuse anyone through the exit if they truly have a disability or are handicapped. As far as double rides, KI used to have a double ride exit pass for Guests with disabilities. I'm not sure if they still offer the double ride pass or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padfoot714 Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 One thing that annoys me is when handicapped people skip lines which are completely handicap accessible. For example FOF has an elevator next to the stairs. The Beast, Vortex, Adventure Express and several others have no stairs at all yet people still enter through the exit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonafidefreak Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 One thing that annoys me is when handicapped people skip lines which are completely handicap accessible. For example FOF has an elevator next to the stairs. The Beast, Vortex, Adventure Express and several others have no stairs at all yet people still enter through the exit. Do you realize what a pain in the *** it would be to have to transfer a wheel chair overtop of the trains. The reason they use the exits is so they can get back in their chair after riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 One thing that annoys me is when handicapped people skip lines which are completely handicap accessible. For example FOF has an elevator next to the stairs. The Beast, Vortex, Adventure Express and several others have no stairs at all yet people still enter through the exit. Do you realize what a pain in the *** it would be to have to transfer a wheel chair overtop of the trains. The reason they use the exits is so they can get back in their chair after riding. That's more of a problem with the park than a problem with an individual disabled person. FOF, and most riders built in the past 15 or so years have been built with a queue that can accommodate any kind of special needs access. Don't forget that some people who are confined to wheel chairs don't have problems just standing, some have mental disorders as well which makes it difficult for them, their parties, and the people around them to be in line. Personally, I'm thankful that I CAN wait in line for 3 hours rather than required to come up an exit. Don't let one pseudo-perk cloud the very difficult lives that a lot of these people live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 I tend to think that it's mroe of an "Urban Legend" that folk rent wheel chairs to skip lines. Am I saying that it does not happen? No, but I am saying that if it does happen it happens far less than any reports of the occurances. Just remember that not all handicaps are readily observable, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 And the Flight of Fear queue, as relatively modern as it might be, does not meet modern day standards. Too, I have never seen that elevator lift on the stairway into the saucer used. Not even once. Not in all my trips to Kings Island since the ride was built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonafidefreak Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 funny everyone has a problem with handicap people cutting line...but when Nick Lachey does it everyone gushes. He and his bubble headed ex wife cut on three different coasters I was in line for. Why are they so special they get this treatment. Now if Jessica was flashing her B BIES...I wouldn't mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOFirehawkFAN Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Ok wanna story. Memorial day weekend I waited 3 hours 45 min for Firehawk. There were 6 people in front of me at this point so after 1 more train I would be next. Then some mentaly disabled guest with a teacher comes all the way to the front of the line without waiting AT ALL and get right on in front of me and make me wait one more time for the ride! And as chance would have it when that train came back there was blood on a seat so I had to wait another 25min while first aid came to clean it up. Whats even worse was this was the line for the last row (which had a longer line than any other seat row). Im sorry but if you can stand and walk you can wait 4 hours just like everyone else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted June 6, 2007 Author Share Posted June 6, 2007 ^ ^I can understand people like them moving to the front of the lines. Imagine the mob scene in the queue (for instance- Beast) if they waited like everyone else. It would be unsafe for them & for guests. And if an incident did happen, getting security personnel to the area in a timely fashon would be difficult. High profile people should bypass lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonafidefreak Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 He could have stood next to me all day and I would have had no idea who he was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOFirehawkFAN Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 ^ ^I can understand people like them moving to the front of the lines. Imagine the mob scene in the queue (for instance- Beast) if they waited like everyone else. It would be unsafe for them & for guests. And if an incident did happen, getting security personnel to the area in a timely fashon would be difficult. High profile people should bypass lines. In any other case I understand, but on Memorial Day for an opening of a ride when the line is 4+ hour wait? Tell them if they wanna skip the line to come back a week later when it's only around an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastergirl Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Ok wanna story. Memorial day weekend I waited 3 hours 45 min for Firehawk. There were 6 people in front of me at this point so after 1 more train I would be next. Then some mentaly disabled guest with a teacher comes all the way to the front of the line without waiting AT ALL and get right on in front of me and make me wait one more time for the ride! And as chance would have it when that train came back there was blood on a seat so I had to wait another 25min while first aid came to clean it up. Whats even worse was this was the line for the last row (which had a longer line than any other seat row). Im sorry but if you can stand and walk you can wait 4 hours just like everyone else! Instead of being angry about this situation, I think that I would be happy that I am healthy and happy and able to lead a normal life. You do not know what their situation is. They could have very easily came and checked in 3 hours and 45 minutes prior and came back at the time the ride operators told them to, leaving them to wait the same amount of time you did, just not in the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted June 6, 2007 Author Share Posted June 6, 2007 Then some mentaly disabled guest with a teacher comes all the way to the front of the line without waiting AT ALL and get right on in front of me and make me wait one more time for the ride! I usually do not double post, but I need to respond. So sorry if it upsets anyone. How do you know they were not told by the ride operators to come back at that time? According to the responses here, that is the policy. And even if they did not wait, what is one more cycle? Heck, after 3.75 hrs. what is another cycle, or another .5 hr.? I am willing to bet they would be willing to wait double that time to stand in line to have a life like yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOFirehawkFAN Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 OK I renig my comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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