Hank

Not trying to be silly. Just totally against the whole Fast Pass thing. That is how I feel. End of my comments.

^ Yes, but that also includes other things that really aren't necessary for the people I'm talking about.

Here's a money-making proposition for Cedar Fair......and something to pacify those who just "have to have" unlimited access to certain rides: Issue a new pass - call it a "Marathon Pass". Charge $500 extra (in addition to park entrance) and the purchaser can ride 2 or 3 certain rides all that day, getting on immediately - absolutely no waiting. Maybe the charge should be more? This would squelch the fanatics, cut through the bull****, let the patron ride to his or hers heart's content, and bring in those almighty dollars Cedar Fair seems so hungry for. Now, you say this is a far fetched idea, but from what I've read in all the threads about Fast Pass, this extra charge won't seem to be any problem - except for those who are poor - and I really don't believe anyone cares about them (except the new Pope). Go ahead - laugh at me - and then sit back and watch it happen - VERY SOON! Mark my words.

Very good. Thank you.

I would envision a VERY clean park, well themed, with lots of trees, shrubs and such - and the same would go for the parking lot. I think some less expensive food would be nice, and a bigger variety of foods. (there's a gold mine to be made on International Street besides pizza and ice cream). Finally, I would like to see all the rides the park EVER had, good or bad, be up and running - with no ride ever leaving the park, just new rides coming in. (the same goes for the Animal Habitat with the Monorail).

The 'add on" stuff has happened in all fields. Houses, cars, airlines, concert events, ballparks, etc. - and yes, even cell phones. Those cell phone companies are making money out the ass with everyone having to have "instant gratification" (as one poster has said) and all at your expense. So along comes amusement parks with this money making fast pass thing - at your expense. If you can't afford it, you lose. If you don't have the money, you live in a poor neighborhood, drive a puddle jumper car, sit in the bleachers (with Taylor Swift) and bring binoculars to a concert (if you even can go in the first place). Is it fair - if you have money, it doesn't seem to matter. I choose not to purchase a fast pass because I don't have the money and I fall into the bleacher section crowd. Is it fair - depends on the customer, just like all of the other things. And by the way, gang,....most amusement parks started out on a pay per ride basis - including Disney. So if it goes back to that, I believe they could make even more money, but it would cost them a bit more to add ticket sales booths, ticket takers, ticket printers, etc. - not to mention, it would slow things down when it came to ride boarding, park entrance, and all other facets of the park that were abandoned when the pay one price thing started.

If you will look back at the thread about Fast Pass, I predicted something like this would happen - and I was laughed at! http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?/topic/24189-fast-lane/page-3?hl=%20fast%20%20pass Post #87 Stick that where the sun don't shine!

3 years!

Taking out sections and replacing them with longer, steeper, sloping, etc - this could also be done - of course then it becomes version 2!

^ Tanna - didn't you read my post?

This was on our local news..... http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/21611011/cedar-point-prepares-for-return-of-night-show

Maybe it's a "pay extra" option to ride this while on WindSeeker?. You never know with Cedar Fair. WAIT - I forgot - there's new management. Sorry. (Geez - I hope they don't read this or it will become reality!)

What could be done to make a coaster run faster - assuming it was approved to do so by the manufacturer? I know about trim brakes being used to keep the coaster from beating itself up, but if it can be made to run faster, why hasn't it been done? Maybe new trains? Maybe new track? Maybe something I don't know about?

Good work, people. I know you care!

The Crypt said..... I think a ticket to Kennywood costs less than a plane ticket. Hank then said.... Food on the table, heat, electricity, water, a car - when you don't have money $10 is a lot. Don't boo-hoo for me - just try to understand.

Good for you! That is a totally different scenario.

I went to school. I have a degree. I've worked all of my life. I can't afford to fly, or take vacations, or go to amusement parks all summer long. Now, explain to me where I should get the money to make me (let alone my kids) happy at Cedar Point for a day. Or King's Island. Or Disney. Or Universal. Or even the aforementioned Kennywood.

I know that Invertigo is a somewhat shocking color when you first see it, but I like it. I think it sets it apart from the other boomerang's by those colors. I am proud of it!

All inclusive = Racer - started the current coaster craze which led to things like The Beast and taller, longer, faster coasters - both wood and steel. For me = Beast - only because if it wasn't for it, I would not have come to KI as often as I did. For those of you who are under 25 = Diamondback, only because you weren't around back when it all started.

^ I'm sorry, but I don't go along with some of the things you said. The parks have a lot of control on the making of the ride. They can specify things and the ride makers try to accommodate. Ultimately it's the mfg. that do the design work - and they, like you said, are mostly in other countries - so they don't really know what's going on here. The same holds true for automobiles. Big, small, short, tall - and all in between - drive cars. The restraints for cars are specified by the government. Yet, did you ever notice that a foreign cal has a smaller (length-wise) seat belt? Every foreign car I've ever been in - and I've been in a lot of them - has just enough belt to go around me, whereas the American cars have longer belts. So, I believer things can be done IF THEY WANTED TOO - and I fit on all the Intamin rides but not the B&M's. So go figure!

Cedar Point just posted pics of the new Gatekeeper trains - and I'm telling you right now that there's no way in hell that I'm gonna fit in those seats. They look like they're for kids or very tiny people - not unlike those from the Wizard of Oz. Why do these manufactures keep doing this? people in this country keep getting larger - and to pay a hefty price to enter a park only to find out that I can't ride more than half of the coasters - it becomes a waste of my time.

Nice article. I hope to meet Mr. Q. someday.

Forgot to mention that I can ride most of the kid's rides too - even Runaway Reptar (or whatever they're calling it these days) and Beastie (or whatever they're calling it these days)

CP has different restraint sizes for their rides. At KI, I fit on everything except Vortex (only because of the new buckle thingy) yet at CP, I may as well just just resign myself to walking around most of the day - actually, it is a waste of money. That's what you get for being 6' 4" - and the pounds don't matter because of the torso. So you see, ya gotta go and try it for yourself. Best of luck to you!

What a great comeback answer!