BoddaH1994

Yeah, it was three constant streams shooting upward. There was nothing around it, so you could walk through it if you really wanted to. I'm willing to say that a lot of toddlers were falling into it, causing complaints...just my guess.

Yeah, upfront would be best in my opinion... plus someone should wear something distinguishable, so we can make sure that we're with the right group and whatnot... maybe a pkiu shirt if you have one

^ I totally agree with you. I mean, even some of the scenes from Scooby Doo are very similar to the ones from PT that were in the exact same spot. I'll basically rest my case on this: the queue lines. PT: The Maestro very convincingly playing the pipe organ. Then he turns around and taunts the crowd about how foolish it was to enter the theatre.. That was the best part of the ride...simply amazing.... Scooby: ::HISS -- Cardboard cutout pops up:: (You hear something that kind of sounds like Scooby or Shaggy or whoever's voice but it's too faint to understand) ::HISS -- That Cardboard cutout goes down and other cardboard cutout pops up:: You hear another barely recognizable voice... repeat until you're on the crappy ride... Even the animatronics aren't good at all... PT told a story. SDATHC is just a dumb excuse to put the name "Scooby Doo" on a ride. They should have just made PT interactive somehow. Now THAT would have been cool.

Let's make it next year...that would be better. Of course, we could always have a mini gathering for Fearfest if you guys are up to it. Actually, that's what my vote is on. How about as many of us get together some weekend evening for Fearfest, and then we'll plan several months in advance for a big meeting next year. Sound good to you?

Nah, it wasn't a fountain. It was the water by the BeerGardens (now Bubba Gumps) I believe. There was something wrong with the pump that recirculates the water and it caused them to get shocked. Again, correct me if I'm wrong. This is just my understanding.

What did they need someone down there for? Was it just to babysit the line? I'm not that sad to see them not using it. It's not like the first year when they had steam coming from the pipes and stuff.

To be honest with you guys, I've never been to PKI on a day when they had a concert. Are they busy all day, or does it drop off once the concert start? Also, how late do they go? Do they try to make them end as the park's closing? If they ran over, would they still do the Fireworks Spectacular?

lol...I noticed that you're new on here... watch what you say about the walk back, you'll have a thread of 15 people b-tching about it and they'll have to close the topic. It is my understanding that Arrow owns the rights to the ride, so if they want to modify it, they must go through them. ::Correct me if I'm wrong, of course:: Paramount, and Viacom at that has knee deep pockets. They could do anything they wanted to that ride if they really wanted to. Like I mentioned above, it would just be very difficult to market it as a new ride, though.

I agree that the interactive ride thing was a good idea, I just think they could have made it a hundred times better.

Ah, I had that in mind, but didn't count it. It wasn't due to the park. She had an unknown pre-existing health condition. Very sad.

lol...I guess I forgot to put in my thoughts... I prefer Phantom Theatre. I realize that they let the ride go to hell after a few years, but I always enjoyed it reguardless. Scooby Doo is just a trendy ride. The guns don't work very well, and as opposed to having animatronics, they just have stupid cardboard cut outs of stuff.

I guess this is just for my own curiosity. I know that a lot of people on here feel very strongly about which one they prefer. Feel free to comment on why you feel the way you do. I know some of you would choose the Smurf ride or whatever, but that's not the point of the poll. It's not which ride do you prefer in that building, it's which one do you prefer between the two listed above.

Ah, I guess you're right to some degree. Of course, SOB and The Beast are totally different rides. I don't think it would detract from The Beast if SOB closed in one of their rose bowls. I guess my only concern would be that it would be extremely hot in there. I mean, even riding AE you can tell definate temperature differences when you're in and out of the caves. You actually spend a considerable amount of time in the rose bowls. My guess is that since The Beast is a constant downward helix, you get a constant breeze in there, and that's why it's not too hot. On SOB, you go up and down hill, so you slow down considerably at times.

Well, I've had good and bad rides on SOB... I guess it's determined more by where I sit than anything else. It also seems like you have more speed on The Beast (although technically you don't). You can't tell me that when you through those helixes at night, you don't feel like you're going 100mph.

Oh come on...I can't believe you guys aren't thinking classic cartoons here! Have the final seen show Daniel Kellner tied to some tracks, and as the camera pulls back, you'll see that he's tied to the bottom of the hill on SOB. Then show a train cresting the hill with only Jeff Seibert in the front seat...with a big grin on his face!

Well, hopefully we'll see weekly construction updates or so... usually PKI is pretty decent about that sort of thing.

So how do you board a floorless coaster? I mean, the track is generally below you, right? Does the floor somehow close up under the train so you can get in and out?

With the exception of turing one of The Racers' trains backwards, I can't think of another time when they've modified a ride to change the riders' experience. Like CYong said, too much time, too much effort... plus it would be hard to push it as a new ride when it came to advertising it.

Yeah, it seems like Arrow prototypes always turn out to be disasterous. The Bat only operated circa 100 days in the few years that it was opened. Of course, Top Gun has a pretty good record. It is to my understanding that X at SFMM is the same way, always down. It would be cool if they could improve on the design and build a nice 4d at PKI. Anyway, back to the topic... So are there 4 confirmed deaths at PKI that we know about: the kid who fell from the tower, the girl who fell from the Flight Commander, the two guys who were unfortunately electricuted saving another guy who fell in the water in Oktoberfest, and the guy mauled by a lion? All of which are unfortunate accidents. With the exception of the two gentelmen who were electricuted, it seems like most of the incidents were due to either people acting irresponsibly, not following the rules, or not being properly trained. For the most part, it makes me feel pretty safe in the park. More or less, if you follow the rules and do as you are instructed, you will be ok whether you're an employee or a guest.

I'm pretty sure Racer still uses their original trains. I know beast uses their orignal trains...although they are modified, they used to have 4 seats in each car, not 3. How would they modify something like that? Sounds like a totally different car to me.

hmmm....good question. I guess I'd consider it two. Granted, when my friends and I decide to ride The Racers, we walk over there and then are faced with the delima of deciding which way to ride. It really is a totally different ride experience.

^ He's right. If they wanted to do anything major to the ride, they'd need to get permission from Arrow. Any change at all in the ride means new calculations and stuff, which probably isn't something Arrow isn't willing to do right now.

Yeah, it just seems like he Beast has something that SOB can't offer... It probably has something to do with how spread out it is.

I don't see them taking it out for a new addition. The ride always has a several hour wait. They wouldn't take out something so popular unless there was something seriously wrong with it. A ride being closed is rarely an indication that it is being demolished.

Ok, I may take you up on that. I know the feeling--I'm going to college too. I hope to find time to even start in the near future.