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The aquarium is also year round. Whereas KI and the Reds are seasonal. It's just that the Reds have 81 home games, and if you attract 30,000 fans/ game that equals 2.43 million fans, and being that the Great American Ballpark is new, they probably attract even more than that. This is really not shocking news.

CF will not take out IJ. They can just put a building aroung it and have you believe that you are on a trip to Alaska. I highly doubt that any major changes will take place this year, but it is possible you could see a drop in some of the food prices which would be a relative easy task.

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I am in no way certain that CF is going to change any of the names of the rides. But a good way to create new intrest is to make a ride "seem" new to the general public by changing a name. It is not uncommon for new ownership to make small changes, like changing a name of a product to spark new intrest or even for an existing company to come out and say "New and improved!" even though chances are it is the same old thing. All of us here are interested of the changes that CF is going to make. And we are all going to go to the park just to see anything that CF has changed and being KI enthusiasts that we are we will be actually "looking" for changes. When the media blitz starts next year about CF's opening of Kings Island, they are going to mention changes and ride names- people may not realize that there is not a new ride and the name was not changed and just come to the park to see the changes for themselves. Instead of being "Oh it's just Top Gun" they may think, "Let's check out Thunder Road". Now if this is going to increase stock value, I have no idea.

According to this site, KC was taken out due to cost of maintenance. I also believe that the Cincy Enquirer had a story about the removal of KC and it was due to lack of parts from Togo. The remaining parts at PKI were sent to PKD. Now parts can be custom made at a tool shop, but that is costly and time consuming since most shops are not going to keep parts on the shelf the way the manufacturor would. Paramount just made the decision to shut down the PKI coaster and keep the others open probably due to popularity at PKI vs. the other parks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_Island

Distinguishing that Paramount no longer owns the park. Even though the name will probably be changed to just "Kings Island" the general public will still not be aware that CF owns the park. Changing the name of a ride will have a larger impact.

There are a couple of scenarios: - Does Paramount even want CF to have rides with there movie themes? - If CF wants to keep the name of a ride to a movie theme, will Paramount charge them? - Will CF want to keep the rides' name the same even under new ownership, or just distinguish themselves as the new park owner? Saying that if CF changes the names is only stroking their ego is just a foolish statement. CF may have aquired $2 billion in debt, but that did not deplete all of their funds. They have more than enough money & assests that they could pretty much do anything to the parks that they want to next year. It is all in their business plans that were decided & approved before the announment of the sale. Deciding the names of rides is all in part of crossing the "i"'s & dotting the "t"'s.

Going from Kings Island to Paramount's Kings Island was worse.

You can see it running live : http://www.funcoast.com/funcam_high.html#

MF was down last week and came back into operation on Friday (6-2-06) afternoon/ evening for CoasterMania. http://www.pointbuzz.com/news.htm?id=940

Big weapons or small weapons, if someone wants to get it in, they will. When I had my first experiance with detectors (I believe at PKD back in '99) my initial reaction was "Why do they need metal detectors, what has happened here?" Instead of a feeling of security, I was a bit nervous. At PKI since I go there often I do not feel that way because I know that there have not been any significant issues with weapons, but when I was at PKD I did look over my shoulder more than usual.

The thing with metal detectors is that they cannot prevent a gun or other like weapon from getting in the park. If a person was sick enoungh to bring in a weapon to cause harm to guests in the park, there are numerous ways to get around the detectors. And if a person is that sick, they may just try and bring something in just to prove they could because the detectors are there.

Just like jaywalking, speeding, cheating on your taxes, drinking and driving, open container law, underage drinking -you get the point. KI police and ride operators have much more important things on their mind then trying to stop smoking in undesignated areas. Imagine this: "Ride accident at Kings Island leaves 10 injured"- Ride operator left station to reprimand smoker in line. Even though that scenario may be a stretch; there are E- Stop buttons for a reason that the operators need to engage in case of some type of electrical failure.

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What happened on Chiller- Robin?

WT is running at CP.

Trolls have taken over FoF!

Some of the comments that have been made are laughable. Winterfest was cancelled by Paramount for a number of years, and when it did come back last winter- it was not close to what it used to be. If Cedar Fair views Winterfest as profitable they will do it- hence the reason why CF bought KI, to make money. But since WF was unorganized and not well recieved in 2005 it could be put on hold for '06 until CF can evaluate it thouroughly. Fearfest is profitable- so there is no reason to cancel it whatsoever. You cannot compare GL to KI- don't insult the park we all love. CF took over a huge mess from Six Flags, and GL still needs a year or two to improve park operations as well as public opinion. CF does not own the park right now- so there is no way that they could change ANYTHING in the park presently; and you are not going to see major changes until 2008. Perhaps some of the memorabilia; cost of tickets/ food etc., and other small changes in 2007. Basically CF paid $1.24 billion for the Paramount chain. They are not going to run anything into the ground purposely. Will mistake happen? Sure, it happens with all business, but for the most part CF has made great business decisions. If they did not, there is no way they could have generated that much money to make the purchase.

According to numerous reports there were several intrested parties- but no names mentioned.

Well here is a poll from coaster enthusiasts, and it is just a wood coaster poll: http://www.ushsho.com/woodpoll12yeartable2005.htm SoB is near the bottom of the list. If the enthusiasts believe that it is too rough, imagine what the general public feels about SoB. With any luck, the modifications will make it a better ride. But it is intresting that KI has not really made it well known that SoB has had modifications made to it that (I'm guessing) had a price tag of a couple million bucks. With that kind of investment I would think that there would have been some press releases about the improvments- Unless even KI is unsure of the improvments themselves.

Well that certainly changes things if it is only for 2007; not the possibility for future years beyond '07. It doesn't mean that there will be a ride that exceeds $20 million, but it also does not close the door that it can't happen.

PKD is a disgrace. It is so bad that to the normal person they probably believe that PKI is the same way (which it is not even close). I have been to PKD on 5 seperate occasions, the last visit being the summer of 2005, and swore that I am not going to waste my time going back- and I get in for free with my PKI season pass! I would rather spend an extra day at BGE. And as far as CP vs. PKI's attendence. We are talking a difference of less than 150,000 guests between the two parks. And comparing CP to PCW is also unfair considering that the city of Toronto metro area has about 5 million people.

Where did you find this quote? And if it is true, it is not that big of a deal. Both TTD ans MF both had a price tag of $25 million which so far has been the highest price ride built for any CF park. You can build a really great coaster for $19 million. But if CF is going to continue Paramount's direction of more family rides, it is a moot point anyway.

Because KI is only 20 miles north of Cincy, whereas CP is 118 miles from Detroit and 61 miles from Cleveland. Given the health (or lack thereof) of both cities it is not surprising that KI had more visitors than CP. Chances are most of the visitors to PKI are from the local Cicy area.

Well I believe that this is good news for KI as a whole. The most significant change that will probably happen next season is a price reduction at the main gate and some reductions in some of the food pricing. It will be intersting to see what happens for season passes. Will a KI pass be usable at CP & GL? If they are able to be used, I would expect the cost of a season pass to jump up $20. But what do I know, I'm just speculating. But there is one thing I can see happening the origional name "Kings Island" is back.