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This is probably meaningless but I walked by a group of associates on their way to Rivertown from Planet Snoopy and one guy said "Hey, that guy has our ride on his shirt" (referring to my Beast shirt)

You could fit a decent size coaster in that land if you go for a compact footprint and use the landscaped areas surrounding BLSC. Or you could go over the midway and use the areas next to Diamondback and the showplace or even The Vortex plot. Granted, I very much think they shouldn't do something like that. It makes more sense to build new coasters in the land surrounding the park that otherwise won't get used and keep the station near the midway. When BLSC meets it demise (I enjoy the ride and don't see an immediate need to remove it), that land would be better used for flat rides, food, shops, etc.

Apparently Gerstlauer created the actual restraints If it does turn out that someone at the park adjusted the seats to allow larger riders, then whoever did that and whoever employed them is fully at fault rather than the manufacturer. As someone previously pointed out, the belts on KI's Drop Tower are more of a sizing mechanism. It sounds like the Orlando Freefall has sensors for that same purpose and, from the manufacturer perspective, doesn't need belts. And belts aren't going to stop an operator determined to let more people ride.

Sounds like it. My brother and I were next to you in line on Delirium and I had a Beast shirt under a purplish over-shirt. Thought about trying to say hi to some other KIC people but I haven't been active here that much and I'm not especially outgoing (quite the opposite). Pleasure meeting you anyway. Today was actually my first ride on FAAC or any Vekoma FSC. So I can't say how it was running but can see why people call them hang-n-bangs (though at my height there's no head banging at least). Despite aiming to ride some low capacity rides (Monster, Scrambler, Zephyr, FAAC), I still managed 30 rides total if you count a trip up the tower.

I missed the days special events (Apr 29), despite being there for 12 hours. But I'm so glad I was there. Ride operations were firing on all cylinders and crowds were mostly pretty light. Decided to ride a number of rides that I hadn't ridden in a while and one I had never ridden. Racer was looking pretty (even the restraints got a refresh). The walk up to Adventure Express is a bit odd with the trees missing and the queue painted white. Met a guy wearing a King Cobra shirt in the Delirium line. I meant to ask if he was a KICer but didn't get the chance. Oh, and I like the new fries at Coney BBQ. The burnt ends were pretty good too.

It probably depends on whether your husband has used the dining plan at all (or how much) but the only way to know for sure is to go to or contact guest services.

I don't think any of the issues mentioned are related to the quality of ride operations and really it just sounded like a bad day with unrelated things happening coincidentally on the same day. 3 hour lines happen on Saturdays because those are the most crowded days. You won't see it on a high capacity ride but on a ride with limited capacity, like FoF, you certainly will. Doesn't matter how good the operations are. Also, I expect there to be staffing shortages this early in the season when many of their seasonal works are still in school. Security problems also seem to be their worst on Saturdays. My advice is to simply never go on Saturday. I haven't been to an amusement park on a Saturday in decades for many reasons.

To me, "no refunds" includes even when "Acts of God" shut down the park. That includes weather and international pandemics. It's written on the ticket and its a risk we all accept when we buy and travel. Some people could have used that money, sure, but the pandemic hurt Cedar Fair more than it hurt the people who simply lost out on the 2020 season. Also, isn't closing early for super low attendance kind of an industry thing? I know Paramount did it. How long does the park keep visit records for passes? They could just offer a refund to anyone that didn't get 3 visits in 2020 and 2021 (and a partial refund to those with 1 or 2).

I've never seen the whole thing and don't need to. It's just people talking and the line usually moves too fast to let you see it. I do like the theming inside the building, especially the references to old rides. Building off the FOF lore would have been cool. They did bring back a character from that for the official audio that's played in Area 72 which is great.

Just out of curiosity I've been looking at crowd-counting systems. Seems like there are "density" sensors that, with some machine learning, could determine how many people are in the monitored area at any given time. I wonder if anyone is specifically working on such a thing for ride queues. Its an interesting topic. EDIT: I just remembered we're having this discussion in the thread meant for actual wait time updates. Whoops.

I actually use queue-times.com https://queue-times.com/en-US/parks/60/queue_times It just pulls data from the park's system, so when its off, this site is off. However, it lists everything in a more compact way that I can read quickly and sometimes people report the time they waited and it will say something like "Anonymous user waited 10 minutes, 30 minutes ago"

Honestly I was just now thinking about a simple sensor that counts people instead of a physical turnstile, which I assume won't ever come back. That would make more sense than my first suggestion

These days you could probably do it using some sort of facial recognition system. Arguably creepy but maybe not if its not saving the facial data for use later, Probably not cheap though.

If I'm at the park and need Fast Lane for Congo Falls, I'm there on the wrong day.

Honestly, I found the wait times to work decently last year except during Haunt and Winterfest.

I more or less had the same deal last year. They really need to clear that up when you order. Does your mobile app have the "voucher" for your pass when you tap "Me?" I had that last year before I got the physical pass and was able to scan it to park, and scanned it at the entrance and had to specifically ask for my card. Like IndyGuy4KI said, the email confirmation should have your bar code too.

...No sidewinder fries? Those were great. Not a big fan of thick cut fries either.

Does it? I must do well at avoiding crowds because it's the most reliably short line in the park for me. But I'm happy to hear that because I love The Bat.

While WWC is opening this season according to the site, I'll be beyond upset if they remove it in the future without another river rapids ride to replace it. More so than the loss of Vortex, which meant a lot to me. BLSC being in Rivertown could be indication that they want to expand Rivertown further in that direction. Or maybe all of this is meaningless and we're just a bunch of dopes reading too much into a map.

I think he's just being cynical but there's good reason to believe The Bat may be the next coaster to get the axe such as it's location, its ridership, the fact that its creator is no longer in business, etc etc. And then when it happens "service life" will be the reason given (which is fine. They have to say something and that's about the only thing you can say). The size was definitely clearly a major factor but probably compounded by the manufacturer's incompetence. I'll be curious to see if either TGG's precut track or a mix GCI's titan track leads to some larger rides. I agree that KI isn't needing another woodie. I wouldn't be against it if complements the others well enough but there are definitely bigger holes to fill.

I don't know that its as much enthusiast vs. GP that's the issue as it is vacationers vs. passholders. Great theming and themed rides brings in those people who visit once every few years or once a year but those that go to parks repeatedly each year lose interest in that sort of thing quickly, imo, or at least don't value it as much as having a quality thrill ride that's worth repeating.

You can order bring a friend tickets online or with the app. You're supposed to be limited to 4 guests per visit and you're supposed to be there with your guests and those are the only restrictions I know of (and they don't really seem to enforce either of those). The drink plan gets you soft drinks. Coke products. You can use them in at the fountain drink locations, freestyle locations and all of the restaurants. Pretty much any place in the park with Coke fountain machines. It does include fall and winterfest. As far as I know it is not good for hot chocolate, cider, alcohol, etc You get a choice between the regular drink plan (paper cups) or the season long souvenir cup. I stick with the drink plan because you can't get in line for Mystic Timbers, Orion or Banshee with a souvenir cup (no bins in the station).

I'm not sure how much of a factor that story was. Pretty sure these parks have known for years that there are people who really take advantage but obviously that story went viral and they may have been afraid of even more people doing the same. Plus food prices have gone up a good bit and there is reason to believe there will be shortages. Their pricing now in general is surprising. Some say they should focusing on improving their parks *before* they start charging higher prices. Though most of their parks are still cheaper than CF.

The wristband is good for multiple rides, which is why they do it. But people have different shapes and restraints vary quite a bit. Too many variations to consider.

Honestly, aside from the retheme, I would like to see them add a new midway path. I was thinking they could create a "main" path (there are different ways of redirecting traffic) that goes from in front of the KI Theatre to between the restrooms and Invertigo, extend it out through where Congo and Timberwolf now are and then back up in the land where the skycoaster is. This would give them more opportunities for additions and it would also bring more guests by Invertigo and The Bat entrances in a more natural way. While I like that the park doesn't force you to walk as much as, say, Cedar Point, I think its due for an expansion of this sort.