catzdrummer09

Being that this is the "more costruction?" thread...I just thought I'd ask if anyone knew whether their was anything being done in X-Base....or does X-base still even exist?

Well, I kind of hope that it doesn't have inversions because I've never been on a true hyper...except for Magnum. But they say it will look similar to griffon to the GP so immelmans maybe? But then again, it is no longer classified as a hyper if it has inversions so never mind...they must mean helices in the article. Plus if you think about it, the true name for a loop is a "vertical" loop...so these may very well be helices.

Ok, so my family was on a trip to Geauga Lake last year and we got into a conversation about our favorite rollercoasters. At the time we were all massive fans, except for the two late 60's early 70's people who now are in love with them....they rode Dominatior . Anywho, a woman that was with us, who claims to be a HUGE fan of coasters looked me dead in the eye and said, "My favorite is Magnum Force at Kings Island." I just looked at her for like 10 seconds, nodded my head, and said "Yeah."

Did they really still leave the tropical theme outside?! I haven't been yet but sounds to me like someone just threw the theming together in like 5 minutes with out even thinking. So now it's a scary, demon inhabited cavern somewhere in an Africa-esque western town????? And we complained when Paramount slapped this baby down. Anywho, some additional effects to this ride. I still say a larger scale, WORKING, version of the demon bat thing would be pretty cool inside along with some smoke effects, some sound effects from The Bat. Maybe some skeletons in the bottom and some sound effects like someone screaming for help...oh wait...nevermind. That could work while boarding though. CF has the potential to make this ride into something pretty awesome but I'm not real sure if the ride program allows for these ideas...does it?

I'm not getting into one of these "discussions" again.... It's my opinion, and you have yours.

I would have to agree with that. I love Firehawk, don't get me wrong, but when I rode it the first time as X-Flight the sensation was amazing....the second time...not so much.

It does take a while but just think. Load, check, undo the restraints because someone can't seem to buckle a seatbelt, check, lower, dispatch. I really wish the seats would "recline" on the lift like they were supposed to when Vekoma originally came up with Stealth er....Borg Assimilator....er Nighthawk. Sorry.

Agreed. But you really should try Flight Deck first. It was my first "big" coaster and it made me feel a lot better.

^ I thought the same thing but I guess this would be easier.

My family and I are planning a trip on Saturday July 12th, I think, and I was just wondering how busy they usually get considering I haven't been ther on a weekend in years.

Do you know how rude you are? You know...I tried to be nice and end this discussion a few posts ago but you couldn't stand it could you...and now you're just being an arrogant jerk. So you consider that "profound influence" means that "enthusiasts represent the opinion of the GP?" Well...you're saying that enthusiast opinions have a "profound influence" (look who's assuming now) on the GP's opinion correct. If you are influenced by an opinion doesn't that mean that you have a similar opinion? Ergo, what I said is applicable. Sorry that you can't handle that fact that you sort of screwed up a bit. And, the "direct quote from a park owner" doesn't even apply to Kings Island being that it wasn't KI's park owner. You are very delusional if you think that is even relative. If that does not mean that people do not look up information on the net in your opinion, then what does it mean? It doesn't mean that people do not look up information...it just means that I don't think people look up that specific info. Yeah maybe they look up specs and info but I don't feel that everyone goes straight to their computer and googles "Opinions of {insert ride name here}." And please tell me how a persons opinions of a ride and rumors they promote, because they likely haven't boned up on their info, are remotely related. You should consider a career in stand-up comedy! Because this entire discussion has gone from stupid to comical This discussion was stupid because I, as well as KIbeast, found glitches in what you were trying to argue. If you can't handle that then you're really immature, which was clearly shown when you ignored my truse and continued to be the a** that you're being.

I have yet to ride The Crypt and will be going in the next few weeks with my family. But I loved Tomb Raider just for the overall experience. And viol8r, did you happen to ride it last season at all....talk about shaking and pain. No effects, no music, bruising, and even back and headache for the rest of the day....yeah.

^ haha...that made me laugh a little. I didn't even know they were making a movie?!

When did anyone say that enthusiasts represent the opinion of the GP? YOU DID While "coaster geeks" may be a small percentage by an attendence standpoint, what they say and how they say it has a profound influence into how the GP feels about a park and about a ride. You haven't provided any new "info" either. Again only enthusiast sites. And these "thousands of people" that you speak of would be?.......enthusiasts. If you need proof of that...you may also refer to a quote above by, none other than, you. And when did I ever assume that people don't look up information. What I had said was that I doubt a lot of the GP look up information before they go to the park and there is some support for this....just listen in line. I don't think half of the stupid things, and rumors that you hear standing there would be said if people were more educated in the world of Kings Island. Oh and by the way...work was great.

Um...i didn't chime in...I was the one having the original discussion with you if I'm not mistaken. And I'm really not being open ended but I'll try to sum it all up. Enthusiasts do not represent the opinions of the GP. Most of the GP (DOUBTEDLY) gets their info from entusiast sites being that most people don't know they exist. This entire arguement/discussion is getting old and neither one of us have the right to say who is more correct as to the popularity. There are too many variables and neither of us have enough of a sample to back us up. However, I do feel that you are still making generalizations based on enthusiasts. And as neither one of us has enough info we should let ridership prove it. (as lines may not prove anything) Sorry if this is still unclear...I'm rushing to get to work.

^ Isn't that sort of what I said in my last post on the last page but the arguement still persisted? I also said that maybe we should se our differences aside but apparently that was missed too. AND, maybe lines won't prove it but ridership will..

I've noticed that...but I was just giving a "for instance". But thanks for the data cause I was wondering about that...however I sort of had a hunch.

^ now you see what i was trying to say, but I'm glad somebody got the point across. I still feel that generalizations are being made just by "coaster geeks" but oh well. Let the lines and ridership prove it. Oh, and I very seriously doubt Kings Island sits down and says, "Welp, ACE is wanting a new coaster...maybe we should think about it." It's probably more along the lines of, "We need to bring some more guests in and it has been a while...what can we do." Not that I'm saying they're losing attendance, god forbid. And, honestly, how many people do you think are aware that groups like ACE et al exist. I highly doubt that number is high...it's mostly fanboys who read sites such as these that are aware...I would say (notice the opinion) that if you asked everyone who went through KI gates in, say, a day, if they knew what ACE was the would scratch their heads. (Now it's data...see what i did there?) Oh and by the way KIbeast....it's he. Thanks for understanding what I was getting at.

That footprint is HUGE. However, I must say I hope they do something to that turn on the train...but...I will gladly sacrifice.

Ok, this fight is getting really petty so I'm going to say a few more things and I'll be done because this really has to stop. I was not trying to say that what I said mattered more than what yours did. What I was trying to say is that from what I've heard, which I hear nearly everytime I go, is that the GP seems to like SOB. That's the trend that I have noticed. However, like someone else said, those who don't like it tend to avoid it. But, I will have to point out, the ride usually seems to have one of the longest lines in the park. But there are too many variables involved to say. But, when looking at data, I would say that the park values the opinions of the GP rather than the enthusiasts simply because they most likely make up a minority of the park's visitors. The only reason that I got frustrated with you is that I felt that you were trying to pass off the opinions of others as fact in order to support your claims. Maybe that's not what you were intending but that's how I took it. This whole thing has been a really dumb arguement and maybe we should just put our differences aside and get on with Top Gun like the topic suggested.

^ I'll take it off your hands

Um....excuse me...but the only reason I mentioned that site was to use the concept art images that it shows...did you even click the link first. There is a difference in trying to pass off opinions on a website as truth and showing images for which the site can provide proof. And I'm not the arrogant one...there are other places on this site where people have argued the same point that I am...I am not arguing that the ride is great and I think everyone else should...I'm arguing the exact opposite in fact. It is you that is arguing that the ride isn't great and are trying to back up your opinion with the...well...opinion of others!

^ But enthusiast opinions can? I'm really getting tired of seeing people say "well polls say......" or "enthusiasts say....." Honestly, how many people do you think check the web for the opinions of ACEr's etc. opinions on a certain coaster, much less know these organizations exist? Were you standing with me when I heard these comments?.....highly unlikely....and even if you were I think you're letting your opinion get in the way and you're trying to substitute it for fact. So seriously, get over the idea that statements made by enthusiasts, translation, enthusiast opinions, and polls of other peoples opinions are what everyone should believe and should be used as fact. I have seen you try to pass these things off as reliable data sources several times and it's really getting old.

You go to OU?! I live about 15 miles north of you. Have you ever heard of Jacksonville. It's near Glouster where Trimble High School is...I think you're the closest person to me on the site!

^^ It's not "what I wanted to see" when I can clearly hear the comments of others.