silver2005

Is it a barrel, or rather..keg of nails? Yep, still hoping for a Bearcat theme.

^I stand corrected. I thought one of Racers' last hills may have been in the way of the path leading to Flight of Fear prior to its introduction. I was aware of extending the brake run though.

^Sheesh, getting all pedantic on my sarcasm, eh? Beast Gal- Loosen up and let us have a bit of fun every once in a while without pointing out every little nitpicking detail.

Now I have an image of Don pulling an Undercover Boss and working the Dippin' Dots stand.

^That and it must be a slow news day if news outlets are resorting to that.

^Such a change to the brake run would require much more re-profiling than one may realize as well. Re-building the ride w/o trims would almost require a complete re-build of the ride, like 80%+.

From an ROI standpoint, I don't see the point. Its already one of, if not, the most popular coaster in the park. What would changing it accomplish? I think it would irk more people (thinking about the local GP here) than anything. Also, Millennium Flyers may be great trains, but they along with riders have their limitations. Taking that first turn out of the first tunnel too fast would create some pretty strong laterals there. I also don't think the structure could take that kind of abuse on the turns minus trims being as old as it is (remember, most of it is original). MF's still weigh quite a bit, and taking those turns at 60+ mph constantly through daily operations would still take a toll.

^And no one not living under a rock was surprised.

Wasn't that done partially because of Flight of Fear?

To those saying GCI doesn't build big... I give you Viper at Wanda Nanchang in China Stats (From GCI's webpage) Height- 160 ft Drop Height- 142.5 ft Length- 5,111 ft Top Speed- 62.1 mph

^There are 3 options to get to Soak City. One is through the entrance from the parking lot, another is walking on the path from Planet Snoopy, and finally, you can take the train with its station in Rivertown close to the Reds Hall of Fame Grille.

I will say I love having a back and forth like this. I want to get out of the way that I realize this could be an RMC as much as a GCI, but discounting GCI based off your own opinions and vague hints to how you think the GP will react to either doesn't dismiss GCI. Recent Cedar Fair ride additions and work with GCI is enough evidence for that, which is one reason I'm still leaning to this being a GCI. The current trend does have RMC in the picture though, I'll admit that much.

^Last I checked, wood coasters are still pretty popular at parks regardless of that.

I'm not saying GCI is bad. The only GCI I have ridden is Thunderhead and it's a great coaster. But let's be honest RMC is the hot coaster company right now and most non enthusiasts aren't gonna be all that excited by a GCI woodie. I personally would be happy with a GCI Most non-enthusiasts won't care who makes it as long as its a good ride.

^What's so bad about another?

^Uhh, several 'big' parks have/had GCI's as well... Six Flags Magic Mountain, Europa Park, both Busch Gardens parks. BTW, I could use your argument for RMC as well.

^ Wildcat @ Hersheypark- I will say I liked it better with PTC's as that was the way it was designed, but I still like the laterals on it. Not as much airtime as the other GCI's I've done, but still a fun layout. I will cut it some slack as its GCI's first coaster. Lightning Racer @ Hersheypark- This is my #3 wooden coaster(s)- non-stop action from the minute the trains leave the lifts. Lots of air time, some nice s-curves and crossover action to compliment the dueling aspects. I love the small hills and curvy runs between all the bigger hills. Thunderhead @ Dollywood- This is my #2 wooden coaster behind The Beast. Its even wilder than LR. There's curves and dips within every element (elements within elements if you will), its fast paced, loaded with air time (especially the 2nd half) and the station fly-through is the cherry on top. To me, its the wooden equivalent of Maverick. Also, Millennium Flyers are amazing trains.

Why are a lot of you suddenly discrediting GCI? They build fantastic rides. Sure, RMC does too, but that doesn't automatically mean GCI is bad. GCI's being disappointing? Good grief.

The current KK is a mere shadow of what they used to be.

^Would AAA be an option to get a discount?

Holiday World question- any particularly good discounts on tickets? Particularly multi-day tickets?

Double post.

I thought you guys were referring to actual footings found at the park, not the blueprints. My bad.

Well there is image floating around indicating the ties are steel. Where is this image?

Uh...RMC and GCI footings are going to look similar. Until we get an announcement or see the steel beams used for the Iron Horse or Topper Track (whichever comes first), all we can do is speculate.