silver2005

What do you mean illusion? It is bigger than Flight Deck in pretty much every way.

Has anyone else noticed how close the supports for the bottom of the first drop are to those for the lift? That first drop should have a really right turn radius if that's the case along with how steep it is. Should make for a great feeling of acceleration.

Adventure Express- anywhere in the back half of the train (3-5 cars) Backlot- Anywhere to be honest, forces hardly differentiate from front to back, the front is nice for night rides, which I find it HIGHLY underrated at night Beast- 1-1 and 1-2 for sure depending if I want to wait on the front or not, I'm also finding the middle of the train very enjoyable, around the 3rd and 4th cars, even on wheel seats). Diamondback- all of these on the outer right- the 1st car, the 3rd car, the 6th car, and the very back, honestly I find it good in any seat Firehawk- outer seats, prefer the front Flight Deck- first 3 cars Flight of Fear- 4th and 5th cars Invertigo- if I want intensity, I go for the seats that start closest to the lift, for easier rides, I go to the seats starting closest to the cobra roll Racer- 1-1 or 1-2, no exceptions Vortex- 1-1, 5-1, 6-1 or 7-1

Just out of curiosity as I'm trying to eyeball how this will look, how tall is the Sling Shot structure?

What's with all the hate towards Diamondback's crew? Sure they had their off moments, but I wouldn't put them anywhere near worst. If its just because of the stacking, well...a majority of coasters have stacking issues at some point. As for WindSeeker's crew, I know most of them and a lot of them hate the ride, basing it off of a lot of the GP's dislike of the ride plus the incidents the others have gone through, overseeing the fact that ours has been one of the more reliable ones.

Diamondback had a stellar crew this year as always. Beast was definitely good except for that guy who mans the microphone and has the 300 spiel at night (at least the nights I ran into him). Adventure Express' crew deserves some nods as well, they definitely made their ride fun despite being one of the more under appreciated rides.

Engine noises and ear piercing screams are 2 entirely different things to have to listen to over and over again. At least with Dragster, its a nice build up to the launch, both from the ground and on the ride itself.

IF the scream is to be included, I'd suggest a few guidelines. First, it shouldn't happen to often as it would get very annoying. Secondly, it should be completely random to add in that fear factor. If they're keeping the night ride hype to it, maybe only do the screams after dusk or so, maybe time it to where a sensor randomly sets off the noise in the queue/station as it goes through the dive loop or first loop (random as in it would do it every other 2-3 passes or so). However, do NOT use on-board sound to pull it off.

I think I may be going on October 4th as its the only good day I have to get to the park before the off-season. Planning on getting there at opening and just making a few last rounds on bigger rides. I'm not one that's a fan of the Haunt or Halloween altogether, so no Haunt mazes and the like for me. I've also made it a tradition to eat at the Kings Mills Skyline before for my last visit. Also might try and get some dusk construction shots of Banshee.

Mainly worked RT Potato Works, occasionally at RT LaRosa's, and what was then WINGS and Preston T. Tucker's Roadside Cafe.

Then how come CP doesn't consider their new version of this a coaster? I stick to my own interpretations at this point and I say no. Its powered all the way through and doesn't rely on gravity. I don't consider powered 'coasters' as true roller coasters either, unless there are major drops and have some sort of gravity powered section in them like Blazing Fury at Dollywood.

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Well, my visit to Six Flags Great Adventure was back in 2000, before they had a lot of their bigger rides. On that list, a certain coaster was around which I had the major misfortune of riding. For all those who think Shockwave of Kings Dominion is bad, to me, it pales in awfulness compared to the real Togo death machine, Viper. The thing was a claustrophobe's worst nightmare. The restraints were constricting, the supporting rings made for non-stop head chop affects, and every time it made a transition, nothing but pain ensued. It had a horrible jackhammer as well.

I think a lot of it comes down to exposure. Going to parks multiple times and being exposed to what rides look like in person is probably a big part of it. Watching rides work would be idea. By that, I mean a couple things. For example, watching a ride and observing things like how fast it goes, how riders look at certain moments, and getting used to the noises would serve a lot of purposes in adding familiarity. Seeing the many guests ride and come off with smiles, signs they've enjoyed the ride and showing its safe, may help as well. You can only do so much with using facts and figures. The big thing, at least to me, is making the mental leap from what coasters are from a stereotypical stand point to what they are in reality, especially with how the media portrays roller coasters and amusement parks.

Frankly, I hope Kings Island starts to focus on intermediate rides. I can't even tell you how many times I've heard of guests who are too big/old for Planet Snoopy rides but are either not tall enough or brave enough to get on the 48" height restricted rides. I feel that currently, there is too big of a gap between those two demographics, even with the classic flats in Coney Mall. I think Kings Island's immediate future in coaster additions should omit thrilling coasters for a bit since our last 3 coaster additions (Firehawk, Diamondback and now Banshee) were major thrill rides.

Perhaps, but on an endless loop?! No thanks.

^No...even WORSE than that....

I can think of a certain Disney attraction's song that would be far worse.

No, Battlestar Galacitca (in Universal Studios Singapore) has the lifts go through the loop from the inverted coaster's side.

I forgot 3 HUGE ones. This. This. And this.

To be honest, the two rides I wanted to see go (SOB and Crypt) are already gone. At this point, especially with Banshee coming in to round out the coaster line up, I'd be sad to see anything go, though Action Theater is a likely exception.

I honestly can't vote as I can find something redeeming about each coaster at Kings Island.

Some orchestral pieces, a few movie pieces, but all worthy of mention. Danse Macabre by Saint Saens Night on Bald Mountain- Mussorgsky In the Hall of the Mountain King- Edvard Grieg Theme from Halloween- John Carpenter Theme from Exorcist- Steve Boeddeker Ghostbusters- Ray Parker Jr. Thriller- Michael Jackson Theme from Jaws- John Williams Theme from '89 Batman- Danny Elfman

Before we get all caught up in the 'what's-left-out-of-the-renderings' arguments, I would just like to say this- I just re-watched Diamondback's renderings and Beast is missing from them. Its not like they haven't left out rides before.

If they utilize that scream sound, I hope its mostly random and not too often, maybe like every 30 minutes or so at most. I also hope they light up the lift and/or first dive loop in red at night.