silver2005

I think it was All Star Grill/Sports Cafe or something in the 90s. I highly doubt Skyline was there originally the park. They were still relatively small in the early 70s (founded in 1949 but it took them a long time to get multiple locations). I'd guess late 70s or 80s. I know for sure it was there in the 90s as I've always remembered the Coney Mall and Rivertown locations (I'm a 90s kid, the funnel cake stand where Timbers is now used to sell footlong coneys). The CI Skyline patio is one of my favorite places to eat in the park.

Most of the big Cincinnati brands are pretty friendly with each other. There's things they all do together like gift baskets and such (Skyline, LaRosa's, Graeter's, Montgomery Inn, Gliers, etc). They also sponsor a lot of the same things.

LaRosa's and Skyline do not share owners.

^Skyline has Greek wraps and salads. You say Skyline and LaRosa's don't count in the same breath you say that each park should have things unique to the area? Skyline is as Cincinnatian as it gets. Also, to me, LaRosa's is too much of a staple of the park as well for locals. Plus you got Graeter's to round it out. They got the local fare down pat.

One thing you have to remember with wooden coasters is that they vary drastically with the weather since its a more natural/living substance that steel. I'm of the belief that they ride better when its cooler/damper. They can get pretty gnarly in the heat, even the good ones. On my trip to Dollywood last month, I noticed even Thunderhead had a bit more of a jackhammer in spots during the day (90 degrees for the high) and ran perfectly later in the evening into the night. And, to me, steel coasters are the opposite. silver2005, who's best Racer ride was on a wheel seat pre-re-tracking.

I'd like to see another good place to get a burger. Wraps, a better deli/sub place than Subway and a simpler BLT than the Brewhouse has would be nice, too.

If Invertigo had restraints like what Vekoma has done with their standard Boomerangs like at HP and Carowinds, I'd potentially say tie, but I prefer Wicked Twister between as they are now, especially riding WT in the back (going up the backwards spike in the back when the launch is maxed out is awesome).

I actually think PS is due for another coaster at this point.

Also...

^Kinda hard when the only parts of Beast you can see from the park are the station and 2 lifts.

To me, that briskness that only comes early in the season (April, early May) or fall just makes Beast an even better night ride IMO. My favorite times of the year for Beast night excursions (most of my favorite night rides are during those times). Also helps that cooler/wetter weather is where wooden coasters shine.

^Give me Millennium Flyers over Timberliners any day. Timberliners are too overengineered.

This video popped up on KD's FB page. They've also been posting random coordinates there, too. https://www.facebook.com/kingsdominionva/videos/4399357553450143

Racer needs to be there for mostly re-starting the coaster building spree after it died off in the Great Depression and WWII. Also defunct coasters from CI like Shooting Star and/or Wildcat. EDIT: My list- Racer, Beast, Big Dipper from GL, Shooting Star, and Magnum.

Carowinds and Dollywood had some good ragtime music going on in their more fair-like sections. Might be a good way to go for Coney Mall. And get some genuine bluegrass for Rivertown.

Doing it the other way around would make more sense to me- KI is closer to a major city than CP, not to mention there's more land options to work with around Mason. I'll applaud CF for trying to pull more $$$ into Sandusky though.

Ahh....announcement season. I'm surprised this isn't using the natural cliffs. It should be very interesting this year. Also, is SIX abandoning the all-park announcements?

A HUGE problem with a front gate coaster is that it would be going into the maintenance area and I'm pretty sure the park is going to be very reluctant in moving all that to make it aesthetically pleasing for a coaster. That along with the proximity of the employee entrance and the handicapped parking to the front gate as well. There's also simply just too many buildings and important infrastructure cluttered around the front gate to remove which, IMO, would also lose the appeal of International Street. The gate, the buildings along side, the fountain, and the Eiffel Tower should remain the centerpieces of the entrance IMO.

IF I make it to next year's Coasterstock, I will definitely try to bring it. Need to find a way to protect and move it safely first.

^That's just the model (probably from that year's IAAPA), the actual track in the bowl is blackish. Also, they built the shell first.

A few notes- - How about the theoretical capacity of 2000/hr? - I wonder why it mentions why its the first to not rely on a lift hill? There were other launch coasters before this, they just didn't use magnets (somebody didn't do their research) - I'm curious on the cost now, especially if CP reps are acknowledging its more expensive than Mantis. - The concept model of the restraints are too accurate - I remember thinking holy **** when I saw the track model Unfortunately, I was too short in 1996, so I didn't get my first ride until 1997.

Here's the whole article. The article (Janurary 13, 1996), writer- Linda Fish-Oda- KINGS MILLS- Visitors to Paramount's Kings Island this year will get to test ride a new technology that someday may become standard on U.S. aircraft carriers. Outer Limits--Flight of Fear, the first hill-less coaster in the world, will be powered by a motor system that is turning heads at the Pentagon. The ride will propel visitors from 0 to 54 miles per hour in less than four seconds, said Jeff Gramke, manager of engineering and construction for Kings Island. Outer Limits is previewed today at the 160th annual Non Coaster-thon Coaster Con Conference in Chicago. The ride will open in late spring in the Warren County amusement park. Navy officials have previewed it and liked what they saw. The Navy wants to replace the steam catapult system used on aircraft carriers to launch planes with linear induction motors, similar to the ones used by the amusement ride. A linear motor system would reduce the weight of a carrier by more than 1,000 tons, said Paul Tolman, marketing manager of Kaman Electromagnetics Crop in Hudson, Mass. Kaman is the company working with the Navy on the new technology. "The Navy does have a need to reduce the weight of the ship" he said. The system would also increase the lifespan of an aircraft. The steam catapult system cannot be adjusted to match factors such as aircraft type, weapons payload, or wind conditions. As a result, all aircraft get the maximum thrust at all times. The linear motor system is controlled by computers and has the ability to adjust the power that launches an aircraft, Mr Tolman said. "That thrust puts stress on the frame of the aircraft. If you can vary the profile, you can extend the life of the aircraft, which would save big money for the Navy." At Kings Island, executives are simply looking for a "screaming meanie that will blast you out," said Ed Dangler, manager of rides, maintenance and technical service for the park. By that measure, Outer Limits has already won tow awards at the International Association of Amusement Parks and Attractions' annual industry trade show in November. Premier Rides, the roller coaster's manufacturer, won in the Major Theme/Amusement Park Ride/Attraction category, as well as the Technology Applied to Amusements award. For park visitors who have experienced their fastest speed in a car, Outer Limits will push their limits. There are only one or two automobiles in the world with acceleration like Outer Limits, said Jim Seay, executive vice-president of Premier Rides in Millersville, Md. "We're talking really exotic cars, like maybe the most expensive Ferrari," he said. Carolyn Boos, marketing director for Kings Island, said Outer Limits will look like a giant ball of yarn after a cat finishes with it. "Or a bowl of spaghetti." Taking up an acre at the amusement park, the ride will propel riders through the linear induction motor system and into a maze of loops and turns-- including 30 vertical curves and more than 25 compound horizontal curves. the ride's special effects are patterned after the 1960s science fiction television series The Outer Limits. The coaster will keep riders in the dark, because Outer Limits will be completely enclosed, similar to the Space Mountain ride at Disney World. But there's one major difference, Mr. Dangler said. "This is a thrill ride, Space Mountain is a ho-hummer." The ride's cost may be its biggest secret. David G Focke, vice-president of park maintenance and construction at Kings Island, is the man with the most say about what rides are bought for Paramount's five parks. He would not release the cost. "Let's just say that it costs more than $10 million," Mr Focke said. "Its twice as expensive as the next most expensive coaster ever built." A spokeswoman for Cedar Point amusement park in Sandusky, Ohio, said that park is building its largest coaster this year for $12 million. Outer Limits, she said, is "a really expensive roller coaster." The cost of the ride is the reason admission will increase this year at the park. Ms Boos said. However, the $2-per-ticket price increase, to $28.95, largely is due to paying the park's 5,000 seasonal employees a higher wage, she said. Kings Island attracted nearly 3 million visitors last year. Thanks to the hype the ride will receive today at the Chicago convention, there likely will be a crowd at the park when the ride is unveiled. But coaster fans won't be the only ones there. Premier Rides' Jim Seay says he expects the Navy to be present when Outer Limits takes off. Caption under the photo- This is a model of the world's first hill-less roller coaster, which will debut at Kings Island this year. The ride will be enclosed. Side caption- How It Works- Paramount's Kings Island's Outer Limits--Flight of Fear is the first roller coaster in the world that will not depend on the long climb of a first hill to propel it through loops and turns. Instead, it will gets its power electrically, through magnetic waves, said Jim Seay, executive vice president of Premier Rides in Millersville, Md. "The system essentially creates a travelling magnetic wave and it's the magnetic wave that pushes the vehicles from a stationary standpoint to the high speeds," Mr Seay said. The track leading to the ride is lines with 44 sets of grey boxes, each 3 to 4 feet long. Each box is a linear induction motor. A laser beam behind the coaster shoots down the track and relays to two computers with motors to turn on or off. The entire ride takes less than two minutes, and about 2,000 people can ride Outer Limits in an hour.

Found something cool while packing to move. Flight of Fear's announcement article in the Cincinnati Enquirer, January 13, 1996. I'll post the article in there at some.