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This article really hits the nail on the head- sometimes, you can take things a bit too seriously to the point it becomes toxic. Especially if you focus on negatives, which some people seem to really do. For example, don't like a ride? Fine- no one is forcing you to ride it (or at least they should not be- I have seen parents trying to force little kids on monster thrill rides before, which I disagree heavily with). You don't need to jump into a thread/forum/post and repeat it over, and over, and over (or mention it in EVERY thread) every time said ride or something similar is mentioned. I have seen it get so bad, I wonder if the person is actually just trolling. And I can also vouch for it: this isn't limited to coaster and theme park communities, I have seen tons of others. Like video game fanbases, movie fanbases, etc.

On the topic of "How would a Giga Coaster look on the KI Skyline", I made a not-100%-accurate version of Kings Island in RCT3 using "Custom Track" coasters from the park. For those who don't know, Custom Tracks in RCT3 are basically rides imported from No Limits or 3D models to RCT3. Not every ride from Kings Island has been made but enough of the "big visible from the parking lot" ones were, so I went outside the park using the free cam and noticed the skyline looked pretty close to what KI's actual skyline looks like. Which gave me the idea to put in the Custom Track of Leviathan (there isn't a Fury 325 CT I know of yet nor a custom B&M Giga) where Firehawk used to sit just to see what a 306-foot tall Giga would look like. Also do note the Eiffel Tower and International Street buildings aren't mine, I saved them from a recreation of KI I downloaded a while back for use in my other RCT3 parks because I liked how they looked. I forget who originally made them, I do recall them being someone here on KIC though. (I think it's from Kitchenslayer on RCTgo's recreations) Edit: Crud, it did not upload the way I wanted it to. You will have to click the link and download the image apparently. Edit 2: Nevermind, I found a image hosting site that is free and works. Here is the RCT3 screenshot I made.

Oh fudge. I never got to ride it (have not made it to Kings Dominion yet), but Volcano: The Blast Coaster was a very interesting looking ride and one I really wanted to ride, even more so after I rode Wicked Twister at Cedar Point since Volcano was basically a full-circuit version of that ride. However, I kinda understand why it is being removed. It had a lot of maintenance and reliability issues, even for a Intamin coaster, as it was one of their first launched inverts. The fact it was built into the "Volcano" probably made it even harder to repair, too. Speaking of the "Volcano" itself, I wonder if that is coming down, or just the roller coaster within it. The Mack Bobsled coaster Avalanche- another unique ride as it is the only one in the USA- shares that element with Volcano. Also Kings Dominion is probably gonna need a new big coaster to fill this sudden gap that emerged in their lineup. And now Banshee becomes the world's fastest full circuit inverted coaster, at 68mph. This new regime at Cedar Fair really doesn't seem to like unreliable/high cost rides, unless they are super popular like Top Thrill Dragster. Firehawk, Witches Wheel (and possibly another HUSS Enterprise at Canada's Wonderland), and now Volcano have all bitten the dust in the span of just 1 year.

I have only been on a total of 35 coasters (by my count- racing coasters as 1, Surf Dog type rides don't count, etc.) and I can luckily say I probably have avoided the really awful stuff so far, but something has to be the worst. Not counting kiddie coasters, I'd have to go with...Cedar Creek Mine Ride. It has a nice scenic location and some decent laterals in spots, but most of the ride is it basically going slow and doing nothing. It also has that classic Arrow jerkiness to it, it's not super rough but considering it's not incredibly thrilling either it doesn't help much. I would still ride it again, but it is pretty meh so unless there is a super short wait and I have already ridden everything else, I'm probably not riding this one a lot on future Cedar Point trips. Corkscrew is a little better, but not by too much. Unlike CCMR, Corkscrew actually has some nice parts to it: the airtime hill gives very good air, and the inversions are fun. I even found it pretty smooth for a old Arrow looper (only the Corkscrews even felt slightly rough). However, it has very few elements in total, and is a pretty short ride. It does not help that I had already ridden Kings Island's Vortex, which is literally twice the ride Corkscrew is in almost every regard when it comes to size and number of elements. (FTR- Vortex doesn't come close to sniffing this list, I enjoy that ride a lot compared to these!) At Kings Island, Invertigo is probably the worst of the big coasters. On a good day, when it is running smooth, it is a good ride- but when the wheels are a bit worn out, it becomes a very headbangy ride. It's the only ride to date to give me a headache. I can only say it's better than the first 2 rides because when it is smooth you can enjoy the powerful G-forces and inversions, and the face-to-face element is awesome. If only it could run that way 100% of the time... Racer can also make this list, when certain conditions are met at least. Normally, Racer is a good ride, and usually stays far from this list. But sometimes, especially if you choose a rear wheel seat, Racer will decide not only to not give you any of its airtime, but it will be very rough and jackhammer a lot. Thus, when this happens, Racer ends up being a very bad ride. However, the opposite can also happen, where the ride gives LOTS of air and is super smooth (I got TWO of these last year). As such, I do try to ride Racer whenever I am at Kings Island, but I always hope for the great rides to happen, not the horribly bad ones. (Thus why I would love to see Racer get a full restoration by GCI or something down the line, so those bad rides would never happen again and the good ones would be much more common) If we do allow kids coasters, though, then I have a clear least-favorite. Howler at Holiday World. Super boring, and shockingly rough for a kids coaster. I was shocked we let kids ride that! I would rather do CCMR over and over, than ever ride that again. And yes Maverick44, Viper at SF Great Adventure is no more, it got replaced by...El Toro. From everything I have heard, that has to be one of the biggest "upgrades" ever. Going from one of the worst rides ever built, to one of the best! (Note: Based on reviews I have seen, have not been to SFGadv)

I have only seen a Skunk at Kings Island during nighttime: we were in line for The Beast, and were on the long covered "bridge" part of the que that leads into the main station. One of my friends saw the skunk, and we began to get nervous it was gonna spray everyone on the bridge. But then it just passed under us, and we saw it had a slice of Pizza (likely LaRosa's). Not even a half-eaten slice, but a FULL slice. LOL, s/he had dinner, probably stolen from some unsuspecting person. The Skunk headed towards The Crypt building and we went on and moved towards the station and got our Beast night ride afterwards. TBH, I thought this encounter was cute. I have had an encounter where I SMELLED a skunk at KI, though. Noticed it very early in the day- it was near the Reds HOF Grille and Mystic Timbers entrance. Man, did it stink, AND IT STUNK ALL DAY (we smelled it heading to Mystic Timbers for ERT and every time we went past later on as well). Eww. And this was probably after-the-fact, I feel horrible for whomever it was who got sprayed. Unlike the other skunk "encounter", not cute. Stinky! I also have seen deer at Kings Island, but only on the Kings Island & Miami Valley Railroad (never on Beast or any other ride). They were located near the section where the fake building props were, and on the 2nd time we saw them, there was a baby. Awe. Also all of this was last year, if anyone was wondering.

Actually, if I remember correctly, track for Banshee (and some supports) were seen before the ride was announced at Clermont Steel. Someone was able to get close enough to them to zoom in with their camera and even take a picture of the label, which indicated it was a B&M Inverted Coaster. Then around that same period, someone posted a Youtube video leaking the Blueprints and Layout. These killed the notion the coaster was going to be a Intamin, which some were still suggesting (mostly trolls at this point- some footers had been placed and they were obviously B&M). Then Kings Island tried to throw of us off for a bit with The Bat Wing Coaster "leak" on their web site. (Probably because the year prior, GateKeeper was accidentally leaked before it was supposed to be announced)

Thanks! Now I have all the info I needed. Looks like I might be attending Coasterstock 2019! Really excited for all the behind-the-scenes stuff, ERT (including Night Vortex @VortexBFForever), included food (I was about to call it free but you are paying $40+ per ticket) and guest speakers.

Thanks. We will try to get our tickets ASAP as they go on sale, just depends when we get money. But we for sure will try not to hold out TOO long, of course.

I have some questions regarding Coasterstock 2019, since my sister and the 2 friends we went to all the parks with in 2018 are interested and were looking stuff up: #1- Does Coaster Crew's (the club we were looking at) "Family" bundles count as Platinum? Because on the 2018 Coasterstock page on KI's web site, it lists Coaster Crew Platinum as eligible clubs. #2- Is it possible for the event to sell out, and if so, how fast does it happen? I ask this because depending when tickets go on sale, we may not have the money for them ASAP. Other than that, that is all. I am very hopeful to finally get to go to my first coaster event, should this all fall into place. And I love that it is going to be Beast-Heavy, because 10 years ago on The Beast was when I broke my fear of roller coasters so this would be a great way to celebrate my first decade of coaster enthusiasm.

Even though I have never been to Universal Orlando (my sister has- she RAVES about the place) this proposed Jurassic World coaster still excites me. I love the Jurassic Park/World IP, and a multi-launch Intamin Blitz coaster that goes 75mph and over water (which is what this is heavily rumored to be) should be a epic coaster. I do find it a little odd that they are doing back-to-back Intamin launch coasters, but it is understandable once you realize Harry Potter is going to be more of a family coaster and Jurassic World is going to be a bonkers Maverick-style ride. Hopefully the reliability on this and a few other of the upcoming Intamin rides is good- because if so, Cedar Fair might start buying them again. I would love to see Kings Island at some point get a Maverick-type ride, but built in the woods of the park. (Though that could also end up being a Mack: we'll need to see how Copperhead Strike does as well)

Out of sheer boredom earlier, I went and used RCDB and Google to see how many cloned coasters Cedar Fair has made. So, I did some research, and found according to Wikipedia Cedar Fair was formed in 1983, so I used that as my starting point, and then began seeing what coasters were added to all their parks after they were acquired. I did not count re-locations (so no Geauga Lake rides were counted, since Cedar Fair didn't build any coasters there anyway). I also didn't count rides already at the parks prior to Cedar Fair taking over, or prior to 1983 for Cedar Point and Valleyfair. I found that Cedar Fair, since 1983 at all their parks, has made 51-52 coasters (there was 1 am unsure they made, I'll describe below) and of those, 10-11 were clones and 41 were unique. I did count the 2 new-for-2019 coasters, Copperhead Strike and Yukon Striker, though obviously they are not clones. Here is a list of all "11" rides I found that were installed by Cedar Fair, that were clones: #1- Dragon Coaster @ Dorney Park (Zamperla, 1992) This is the one I am unsure about: it was added to Dorney Park in 1992, the same year Cedar Fair acquired Dorney. I could not find at what part of the year the acquisition took place OR when this ride opened, so I am not sure if it was added by Cedar Fair or Dorney's Previous Owners. In 2010 this ride was re-located to Valleyfair, where it operates to this day as Cosmic Coaster. It is also a powered coaster. #2- Woodstock Express @ Cedar Point (Vekoma, 1999) Wow, first for-sure clone at a Cedar Fair Park added by Cedar Fair wasn't added until 1999. This is your typical Vekoma family coaster. #3- Mad Mouse @ Valleyfair (Arrow, 1999) One of the last Arrows ever made, as they went under in 2001. #4- Wild Mouse @ Dorney Park (Maurer GmbH, 2000) Another Wild Mouse, this time by Maurer. #5- Woodstock's Express @ Dorney Park (Zamperla, 2000) A typical kiddie coaster. Similar to Howler at Holiday World, for those who have been there. #6- Boomerang @ Worlds of Fun (Vekoma, 2000) OMG Cedar Fair BUILT A VEKOMA BOOMERANG. I thought for sure this was re-located or added prior to Cedar Fair, but nope... #7- Steel Venom @ Valleyfair (Intamin, 2003) A Intamin Launched Inverted Impulse Coaster. This is the 185-foot version with one twist and one spike. #8- Spinning Dragons @ Worlds of Fun (Gerstlauer, 2004) A Gerstlauer spinning coaster. While it is a clone, there are only 2 of this model, so it is still a bit rare. #9- Pony Express @ Knott's Berry Farm (Zamperla, 2008) A Zamperla Motocoaster, it launches from 0-38mph. #10- Coast Rider @ Knott's Berry Farm (Mack, 2013) A 3rd Wild Mouse, and by a 3rd Manufacturer. Cedar Fair did have a few of these beforehand, as parks like Kings Dominion had this model. I assume they liked it. #11- Railblazer @ California's Great America (RMC, 2018) While only 2 of these RMC Raptor single-rail coasters exist, this one has to get the clone title, as Wonder Woman opened first. There were also 2 "Nearly Clones": Raptor @ Cedar Point (B&M, 1994) Sierra Sidewinder @ Knott's Berry Farm (Mack, 2007) These rides were unique when new, but some foreign parks have built clones of them. However they were unique when built, so I don't consider them clones. In conclusion: Looking at this, Cedar Fair tends not to do clones, and it has been this way for a while. Consider that there are 41 unique non-cloned rides they have added to their parks since 1983, versus 11 clones, and of those clones most are family rides or Wild Mice (save for Boomerang, Steel Venom, and Railblazer). BONUS # of Coasters by Make built under Cedar Fair since '83 Arrow: 4 ART Gmbh: 1 B&M: 15 (Counting Yukon Striker) CCI: 1 Dinn: 1 GCI: 4 Gerstlauer: 2 Intamin: 8 Mack: 3 (Counting Copperhead Strike) Maurer: 1 Morgan: 3 RMC: 3 Vekoma: 2 Zamperla: 3 That's a lotta B&M.

And what I think is scary (in a good way): this is just what we know is coming. They still have not given us the 2019 Show Line-Up, or announced any special events like the Peanuts Celebration last year. And I fully expect special events in 2019, as Cedar Fair management did state they were popular and they wanted to do more to boost summer attendance. Cedar Fair has given Kings Island a lot of love the last few years. The park overall has a much, much nicer feel now than it did even a few years ago- the replacing of asphalt with pavers in several sections, a new and much better parking toll booth, Banshee and Mystic Timbers refreshing and making their sections of the park look nicer in addition to being awesome roller coasters, and now the International Street overhaul and Antique Autos will make those sections (I-Street and the Back of Coney Mall) even nicer to look at. I can't wait to check out all the new stuff (and overhauled old stuff) come passholder preview day in April!

Yikes. I did not attend it myself (My first visit to Kings Island was in 2000, when Viacom/Paramount owned the park, and I did not return and start coming to the park "regularly" until 2009) but this CBS year sounds truly awful. I'm guessing it was 2006, right? If so, that was the same year Cedar Fair bought Kings Island and the Paramount chain, which makes me wonder if some of this awfulness was reversed immediately, or if it wasn't removed until 2007, when Cedar Fair fully took over.

Well, I had another dream last night. This one was a bit more unique though. The dream begins, and I had either just invented or acquired a time machine watch thing. I didn't have to worry about altering timelines because nothing the "watch thing" did was permanent, though I could grab items from the past and bring them into the future without affecting anything somehow. But how does this relate to Kings Island? Well, first place I went with the watch was, Kings Island... ...April 29th, 1972! Poof! Now suddenly I am at Kings Island, its grand opening day. I see International Street, in its original form, with the Eiffel Tower and Sky Ride ahead. I head over and go to ride...The Racer. Back when it was brand new, with buzz bars and the cool OG paintjob and all. The ride runs great and smooth, and I got lots of airtime (further boosted by the very un-restrictive restraint system). I get off and randomly decide to advance a few years. Now, it's...1979! Which means 1 thing: The Beast has arrived! But before I ride Beast, I head over and ride Screamin' Demon. A simple ride (it was the same as the real one was- launch, loop, backwards launch, ride ends) but it was fun in the dream. Then I head over to ride Beast and the wait is...3 HOURS (probably common back in 1979 TBH)! So I use another feature of the watch thing and speed up time so the 3 hours goes by super quick. Then I ride The Beast, in its original form. Then I decide it is time for another time jump... Now, we arrive back at Kings Island, but in 1981. I head over to The Bat and...it's broken down! But mechanics are trying to fix it. So I head over to Beast again, wait in line for "3 Hours" again, and by the time I get off my 2nd Beast ride (which now had tunnels and the early changes done) I see The Bat testing, head over, and it opens just as I show up to it. I get on, we climb the lift hill (which sounded just like modern-day Bat) and drop and begin swooping and turning among the trees. After I get off, I think "That blows Firehawk outta da water, my new favorite defunct coaster so far...". Then I hear the ride ops on Bat say over the intercom: "Attention guests waiting for The Bat, we are currently experiencing technical difficulties. We do not know when The Bat will re-open..." And I think again. "Oh fudge, guess that's common for The Bat though. Well, time to go to 1984 for King Cobra!" And then I woke up.

True- Cedar Point does get tons of media coverage whenever they announce new coasters- though I recall when Banshee was announced, it was also all over the place. Though that may have been partially due to the fact Banshee replaced Son of Beast, one of the most infamous roller coasters ever built (thus making people extra curious as to what would replace it). Banshee's announcement was the #1 trending item on Facebook for a decent amount of time when it happened. And then of course came the 4 1/2 hour wait the day it opened, due to perfect weather combined with all the hype (and I waited in that line! It was insane). Mystic Timbers also got a decent amount of hype behind it, though I'd say not as much as Banshee, probably because Mystic Timbers was not replacing something well-known (in fact we didn't lose anything big for MT, just a funnel cake stand that got re-located). Though MT also had the general media focusing on the 2016 Election so a new roller coaster being announced was small news in comparison. I would say overall, Kings Island is one of the parks that can get media attention fairly easily. Not as much as Disney or even Cedar Point, but it can. And if Kings Island does add a 300+ foot Giga Coaster, well, that is going to get a lot of attention because Giga Coasters are GP Magnets due to their huge stats.

I have actually thought of this, looking at Google Maps and such. Though TBH that "Red" area you highlighted could be even bigger- if the reason Kings Island got rid of Firehawk truly is because Vekoma stopped making parts for it because it is a "rare" model, then Invertigo is also screwed because it is also a rare old Vekoma model (and is no longer even on offer), once the Stinger scrap parts run out. And if you add Invertigo's spot to that red area, it becomes pretty much big enough for almost anything. A huge RMC woodie/hybrid, B&M Wing Coaster, B&M Floorless, or even a Twister Giga could fit. You could even keep Timberwolf (just take out Invertigo and Congo Falls) and you could probably fit a B&M Dive Coaster or a compact Intamin/Mack Launch coaster there (based on how large the site for Copperhead Strike is).

Uhh, that's not a Giga Coaster, that thing is at least 600-700 feet tall (based on Eiffel Tower and Drop Tower in background), we must come up with a new term for what is by far the largest roller coaster ever built.

To be fair, the 6-bench rule held true (from what I have heard) even for Son of Beast, it was just the coaster was apparently so rough on average it just went from "OH #&! MY BACK" on a wheel seat to "Ow, that hurt my back". It gave a smoother ride, but it was still rough compared to other coasters. Then again I never rode Son of Beast, in the 2000-2006 form (when it has 3 row cars) or otherwise, so I cannot confirm. BTW, I have learned that the middle row of ANY coaster with 3-row cars is usually smoother. Woodies like Blue Streak, Racer, and Beast are all smoother of course but even Arrow Mine Train Type Cars (Used on Adventure Express, Cedar Creek Mine Ride, Gemini, and even Magnum XL-200 oddly) all gave me smoother rides from the middle row. Awe. I was hoping it would be a bit more than that- is OK though, Blue Racer's turnaround IMO was one of the rougher spots on both sides. There was a violent "Pothole" there last season, right before you went up into the actual turnaround. I hope they at least fix that.

Yep- not having any clone rides (well, some of them like Raptor did get CLONED but not by Cedar Fair themselves) is a huge plus to a park when trying to attract guests from outside your main region. If you are just looking to draw a few locals in they are fine, but you need to build unique or at least rare rides to attract someone from across the country or even from other countries. Also, I thought up an analogy for what Millennium Force did for Cedar Point. Think of the park being known by everyone as a campfire: Magnum XL-200 has gotten that fire burning really good- bigger than most other parks fires. Mean Streak added a bit before sputtering out (aka it got rough and had trims added, etc) but then Raptor came in and made the fire even hotter. Mantis also helped a bit, though looking back, probably not as much as Raptor did. Then Millennium Force got thrown in, and the fire explodes. Millennium Force didn't start Cedar Point's "fire", but it did make it bigger. And what is scary is Cedar Point just kept adding to the fire, so it is even bigger now than when Millennium Force was added.

Well, I thought this up, and figured it would make a great poll. So I made it. I would imagine most of us here like Kings Island, but a random thought popped up in my head: but which part of the Kings Island "Season" is the favorite? I have decided to break the operating season down into 4 sections... Early Season (April-May) Basically, this is from passholder preview night to around Memorial Day Weekend. The park has re-opened after being closed for months, yay! Time for first rides on the brand-new attractions! Crowds have not peaked due to most schools still being in session, but the employees also generally have yet to get into the swing of things. Only a few shows are playing at this point usually, and the waterpark and some water rides remain closed. Main Season (June-August) Summer is here, and the park has been open a few months now. The waterpark is open now, and most if not all of the live shows should be playing, and the employees should be getting used to their jobs at this point. However, the summer crowds generally begin to kick in around this time (until the end of August or so when school goes back), and it can get very, very hot. Haunt Season (September-October) Well, Waterpark is closed again. But now it is time for...Halloween Haunt! There are horror props all over the park, and the park is now open on Fridays and Saturdays until 1am- great for night rides. But, when the Sun goes down, the monsters come out. And so do the insane crowds on Saturdays. Winterfest (November-December) Most rides are closed, but in the past we couldn't even ride roller coasters in winter anyway. The horror props give way to beautiful Christmas Lights, and the park ups its show offerings with special holiday shows. It is also usually very cold. BRR!!! And well, that is my new poll: which of these 4 parts of the Kings Island season do you enjoy the most?

On the subject that Millennium Force "made" Cedar Point what it is today: Cedar Point has always been popular for its location: people love that Beach, and it is between Cleveland and Detroit, 2 good-sized cities. They got a million visitors in 1960, and they didn't even have Blue Streak at that point. And they were famous for roller coasters well before Millennium Force was a thing. Gemini was beloved and crazy popular in the late 70's and 80's, and Magnum XL-200 shocked the world with its sheer size and lack of inversions (debunking the notion that steel coasters needed them to be good). By the time Raptor was added in 1994, their attendance had basically already reached current levels, and it along with Magnum XL-200 were frequently listed among the world's greatest roller coasters at the time (Magnum XL-200 won the Golden Ticket Awards Steel Poll from 1998-2000). Cedar Point was ALREADY a destination park for beach lovers and coaster lovers alike. Millennium Force was a great addition, and made Cedar Point even more popular, but it didn't put them on the map: They were already on it and tons of people were already making long trips there, coaster nuts included.

I have had Fast Lane Plus twice at Cedar Point: once at the end of October 2017, and once in August 2018. We won a trip to Cedar Point that included them in Late 2017, and in 2018 we renewed our season passes and used them on a Sunday (because Saturdays were no-go for using that perk). I would say, if you have the money, it's worth it. You'll probably still have to wait for some rides, depending on how crowded it is and when you go to them, but the wait times will be a lot shorter than without Fast Lane for most popular rides. Steel Vengeance, Maverick, and Valravn are probably your worst chances for running into a big line even with Fast Lane Plus- at peak, I saw all of them go above 30 minute waits for Fast Lane, with SV going up to 45 because it only was running 2 trains at the time. Still, that's way better than the 2-hour waits all of them had in the regular line. However, early and later in the day Maverick and Valravn were near walk-ons with Fast Lane and Steel Vengeance was down to 10-15 minutes. The other rides that you'll see huge time savings on are Millennium Force (you can skip the main que and go straight to the ramp with Fast Lane) and Top Thrill Dragster (You don't wanna stand in line for this too long, that's giving it too many chances to break down and TTD loves breaking down), and Raptor (I got on it in less than 10 minutes when the main line was 90!). GateKeeper, Magnum XL-200, Rougarou, Blue Streak, Gemini, Wicked Twister, Corkscrew, and Cedar Creek Mine Ride all usually don't have much of wait anyway, unless it is very busy or various other rides are down due to wind or other factors. Iron Dragon does not have Fast Lane, if it has a 45-minute wait (Rare but possible), you have no other option if you wanna ride it than to wait 45 minutes.

Welp, that's poll. ...AND DA WINNER IS... (Official POV from Cedar Point's Youtube) ...STEEL VENGEANCE! TBH, not too surprised, given how well this ride has done in nearly every poll on and off this site I have seen. Steel Vengeance DESTROYED Flying Ace Aerial Chase, Flight of Fear, and Magnum XL-200 in the early rounds as none of those rides could get more than a few votes before SV got 10. Maverick was the first ride to actually put up a fight, but Steel Vengeance won the fabled feud of Frontier Town in the end, 10-8. In the final round, it was a epic duel, coming down to just 1 vote- but Steel Vengeance managed to hold off the legendary Beast, and claim victory. Ironically, in both versions of the poll so far, The Beast was the runner-up. In the 2011 poll, it was finally beaten by Millennium Force at the end, and here Steel Venegance undid it (though Beast was MUCH more competitive in the 2018 version, MF won by a few votes in 2011). Millennium Force- the defending champion heading in- was eliminated by Maverick and didn't even get to the Final 4 this time. Maverick must feel good about that for 1 reason- in 2011, MF eliminated Maverick fairly easily when the 2 met. Maverick also defeated Banshee in a bonus poll to claim 3rd place. Thanks to everyone who voted. I will probably do this again in a few years when some new coasters are added to both parks.

Final Steel Vengeance (9) vs. The Beast (7)     3rd  Banshee (3) vs. Maverick (10) Not posting but correcting, as Starlitfire gave Beast 2 points on accident instead of 1.

WE MUST FINISH THIS...SO...BUMP!!! Final Steel Vengeance (8) vs. The Beast (6)     3rd  Banshee (3) vs. Maverick (10) Maverick has claimed 3rd place, so Banshee finishes in 4th. But who will win 1st!?!?