SonofBaconator

A B&M dive machine would be a nice fit to the park after a Giga- they fit in tight spaces and they are typically coined well with the GP. I'd love to see KI get a next generation B&M Dive Machine. With the 300ft coaster mark being broken, if a giga comes to the park, it would be cool to add more rides that break the 200ft mark in proceeding years. This guy hit it spot on when it comes to Dive Machines

Oh I'm sure Place Workshop rendered that picture with water for the park as a selling piece. I honestly don't think KI would have wanted water there for multiple reasons.

I found the website of Place Workshop, the company that is responsible for making the ride plazas like Banshee, Fury 325, and Gatekeeper ass well as Carowinds and Cedar Point's entry plaza as well as the central plaza in Action Zone. I hope that we see them return for Mr. T http://www.placeworkshop.com/projects/

Paramount did some good things for KI as well as some bad things. Here's my own personal list Things Paramount did right: Flight of Fear Delirium Face Off and Drop Zone in the same year (Yes I'm giving them their original names for this list) Fear Fest Giving KI the World's Best Kids Area Keeping Scooby Doo in the Park, even well after all the other Hannah Barbera characters left with the addition of the Nick Universe. (I miss Scooby) Boomerang Bay (Sometimes I miss hearing Men at Work on the train) Keeping The Racer backwards Adding pay per rides like X-treme Skyflyer and Slingshot Getting rid of the animal tours: though loved by many sometimes keeping animals for attractions is bad PR if standards aren't met- no animals, no bad PR Things Paramount did wrong: Removal of the antique cars and flying eagles to make room for a mediocre ride. Poor ride maintenance (as opposed to Cedar Fair's current standards anyway) Removing Phantom Theater for a lazier tag ride (Paramount was great at theming so you can't tell me they couldn't have updated the ride to make it cooler) Paramount Everywhere!! I would have preferred Action Zone to be the main hub for Paramountness. They more or less threw rides themed after movies all around the park like Italian Job and Tomb Raider. Flight of Fear was a perfect example of a great ride that didn't have to be themed after a Paramount movie. Not keeping up with park theming when they were in fact a movie company- I would have loved to see them theme Rivertown, Coney Mall, and even Oktoberfest back to their former glory. Italian Job- though I was upset when they removed the antique cars and the flying eagles, I wouldn't have minded if they were replaced with an over the top ride; they didn't and therefore I mind. Bubba Grump's Shrimp- this is just a personal opinion More or less dull shows- taft had shows that made KI magical and fun, Paramount more or less focused more on action Not taking any influence from Taft- It seems like when Taft left, there was a loss in KI magic that Cedar Fair is slowly starting to bring back. The train ride, for example, has since lost a huge chunk of its theming; thank godness they give the train the KD treatment. I felt like Paramount could have proven to be just as good if not better than Taft but they didn't, at least not in my eyes. Son of Beast- I will not deny that Son of Beast was an iconic coaster, I will not deny that Paramount wanted to give the world something they never saw before, I will not deny that Son of Beast was a one of a kind ride that many still miss to this day. Here's why I said Paramount did Son of Beast wrong- it had all the potential and opportunity to be a great ride but it sorta fell short. The ride was the first of its kind and first of its kind rides don't usually do as well as hoped. It was considered to be the roughest coaster in the world at the time and gave the park too much negative publicity. Cedar Fair did its best to keep up with SOB but in the end the cons outweighed the pros. This ride could have been a lot better than it was received if built better but that's a topic for another day. Bring on the pitch forks Feel free to voice your own opinion

So do you think they're going to do another overhaul of the map? I can't see how they can accurately place Mr. T on the map without the map being altered, but that's just me.

Its interesting that a ton of people picked blue and white considering 3/4ths of the current North American gigas have some variation of blue track; Ohio already has a blue and white giga.

So you'd be willing to give KD a second Flight of Fear?

Is it me or does it seem like KI is trying to utilize tight spaces? (eg Mystic Timbers) I really hope that they transform existing spaces into future attractions or expansions (The vast majority of real estate surrounding BLSC, the Crypt building, the flight commander que, the area where Tower Gardens once stood, and the horrendous Bat que)

Best: Beast (Day or Night) Banshee (especially the scream at the top at the lights at night) Diamondback The KI&MVRR The World's Greatest Kids Area Blue Ice Cream Eiffel Tower Royal Fountains Diverse Coaster Roster Knowing that there's something for everyone Worst: The walk to The Bat No restroom in X-Base Firehawk's wait time Excruciating pain from Racer BLSC's jerkiness Photographers on I-street The fast-lane system Realizing how painful some of the older rides are, especially now that the newer ones are way smoother Fun Tvs The existence of defunct buildings that are only utilized for Haunt (It kinda looks sloppy to see the Wolf Pack props during the regular operating season)

Just a little fun poll, what color do you think KI's next steel coaster will be? I honestly think that if our next steel coaster is a giga, it will have green track with white supports. KI doesn't have any green coasters in its lineup so I think it would fit nicely. If we get a Triotech dark ride instead of a giga I could see black or grey track with white or grey supports. Voice your opinion below!

Dorney already has two shuttle coasters. But then again we have Intertigo and Surf Dog

Can Vortex get some new Vekoma or even B&M trains to compensate for the constant headbanging? Though Vortex isn't as smooth as what it used to be, wing rider restraints would make the experience more enjoyable, same with Invertigo

I'd happily trade Invertigo and Congo Falls for Aftershock at Silverwood

I really want to hear Danger Zone while I'm waiting in line for Firehawk

I voted Banshee because it is by far one of the best original coaster designs ever created. No pre-drop or mid course break-run results in constant momentum from start to finish. I haven't gotten a chance to visit CP yet so I can't really judge their coasters, but to me Gatekeeper stands out as the most original and best of the 4 B&Ms they have. The others look like generic layouts from their own respective category. Why do all B&M Dive Machines have nearly the same layout? I rode Sheikra in Tampa so Valravn doesn't look too different to me.

We have vending machines...

Trade Firehawk for both Mighty Canadian Minebuster and Wild Beast at Canada's Wonderland. Canada gets a better Flying Coaster and we get two Coney Island classic woodies

I could really see Racer getting some track work done. I'd love to see RMC install Topper Track to make a smoother, more comfortable ride. They can keep the existing wood structure and just replace the current track with Topper Track. This would keep it categorized as a wooden coaster and not a hybrid. Topper track reduces maintenance costs and improves a wooden coaster's integrity. And no, I don't want Racer to get the Colossus treatment. No inversions, just change the type of track. I seriously recommend going to RMC's website and read how their track works and what services they provide. http://www.rockymtnconstruction.com/topper-track.php This video I found online best represents what I think KI should do for Racer (subsittute the IBox Track for Topper Track and change the purple color of course.) I actually messaged the guy who made this coaster and applauded him for his concept.

Just take some acreage and push it up north Credit: https://memegenerator.net/Patrick-Star-Move/caption

Kings Island gives Cedar Point two hundred acres of undeveloped land and in exchange Cedar Point gives Kings Island the status of the Cedar Fair Flagship park.

Welcome to the Great Ride Exchange! What rides are you willing to trade or bargain for? They can be between any two parks and any ride is open for exchange. Attractions like Dinosaurs Alive are up for grabs too. For example, I'd trade Dinosaurs Alive and Congo Falls in exchange for Thunderbird at Holiday World. *EDIT* Exchanges should be reasonable

Would it be wrong to classify Mystic Timbers somewhere in between a family ride and a thrill ride?

I'm sure RMC was considered but I ultimately think it was better for Cedar Fair to just nix the ride all together. RMC wasn't as well known or as reputable as it is now. The ride already had a bad reputation and caused significant pain to guests.

I would be alright with that. I just want something like a wild west show or at least some interactive props throughout the course of the ride. I'm honestly tired of how the conductors make fun of the crappy props whenever they do their spiel.

This isn't likely but it certainly isn't impossible. Worlds of Fun has added a Wild West show to their train ride and I'd love to see KI mimic this. I know it wouldn't be possible during the regular operating season with Soak City open but they could try and do something before the regular summer season starts. They could use the plot of land by the Mary Rose Inn so everyone on board the train could see the show. Here's a video I found online if anyone wants to take a gander