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I might be the minority here thinking it might be bad for business to open up the park, even to reduced capacity, at this time from a public relations viewpoint. To me it wouldn't look good for their PR if something bad were to happen like a potential spike in cases after reopening, employees succumbing to illness, people filming others not practicing social distancing, etc. I feel like the risk to open the park back up might outweigh any foreseeable reward. At least by staying closed they're not opening themselves to controversy. If other local attractions open back, they could look at opening the park but if I were Kings Island I wouldn't be the 1st to open my doors.

I wonder how the alleged Addams family coaster would've changed when Cedar Fair took over. Also it would've given us 4 dark rides which is a cool thought

I'm just going off of speculation. In their proposal to Santa Clara, it mentions an impulse coaster 150'+ which matches Possessed's description. Add that to news that Possessed is being removed so I just put two and two togeather. I could be wrong, it just seemed likely since CF is trying to build up CGA and a relocated impulse could satisfy that desire until they build another group up coaster like a hyper.

So coming back to this topic, I think its a safe bet that Possessed from Dorney Park will find a new home at CGA. Its a good fit for the park considering that its small footprint and the fact that the park doesn't have a launched coaster. What's funny is that the park's direct competitor, Discovery Kingdom, has an impulse of their own so it'll be interesting to see what people will think if CGA does in fact get Possessed. Also, any word on the hyper? I know Covid-19 is reaking havoc on the amusement park industry so we can't really expect anything legit like blueprints for a while

I can't remove it for some reason

A topic I'd like to bring to bring to people's attention. Should we be allowed to promote/share content such as articles, videos, etc if they are not entirely accurate?

I recall it was once speculated that Swan Lake was drained to accommodate a blitz coaster similar to Maverick. I believe those speculations ended when land started to be cleared on the other side of the path and into the canyon. I think it would've been interesting to see a wooden coaster in that part of the park, I'd imagine it would almost be like Hurler in that plot of land with an RMC conversion decades later. That being said, I'm happy with how things are now. Mystic Timbers and Diamondback are in excellent spots they really help make it the best section in the park.

I don't think RMC is really gone. I'd like to see them work on projects like converting Grizzly at CGA and Hurler at CWS. Not every park needs an RMC and the ones that do don't need have ones as big as Steel Vengeance. Six Flags used RMC as a way to get use out of old wooden coasters that they didn't take good care of. Cedar Fair takes way better care of their wooden coasters which is why I don't think we'll see an RMC at almost every like you see with Six Flags. I consider Cedar Fair and RMC's relationship to be on an "as needed" basis

Some more questions I thought of: Would you want Vortex's replacement to cover the empty space or leave some room for something else? Would you want it to pay homage to Vortex in some way (colors, name, logo, etc)? What types elements would you like to see on a the potential new coaster? (I'd personally pick a zero-g stall and a banana roll)

Thank you, I appreciate that You don't have bad observations, but at times they come off as trollish

You're not obligated to post on this thread you know

@coaster sally you're looking at just Cedar Point, the "Thrill Captial of the World", where Kinzel flooded the park with Intamins in the 2000s. Look at the other top 3 parks in the chain. What have they all gotten since the Cedar Fair acquisition? Collectively KI, CW, & CWS have gotten 8 B&Ms, 1 Mack, 1 GCI, (and a triotech coaster). Even Cedar Point has gotten 2 ground up B&Ms and converted their stand-up. All the rides mentioned are safe and reliable which is what Cedar Fair is all about. There's a reason you haven't seen a new Intamin in the chain since 2010.

Yes you are correct but I am not looking at all of this from an enthusiast's perspective. As an enthusiast I'd love for KI to get an Intamin like Maverick but I know it'll never happen financially. I've argued B&M is the safest choice just because of reliability. The general public could really care less about what manufacturer a coaster comes from. Not a lot of GP have ridden Medusa, Bizzaro, Scream, Rougarou, and other floorless models. You could argue B&M installs cookie cuter Hypers but yet Cedar Fair bought 3 of them as well as 3 of their giga models. Dive machines, which are the most cookie cutter coasters of all time, have been installed at 2 of Cedar Fair's parks and I'm sure there's more coming down the road. As I got older, I started to learn that KI and Cedar Fair try to cater more to the GP because they're the ones who make the parks the most money. I recommend watching Eltoro Ryan's video on I305 if you want to see how going more intense and catering more to the thrill seekers doesn't always reap financial rewards. Maybe we won't get a B&M, maybe we'll get a Mack, an S&S or maybe an RMC single rail, but whatever we get please understand this- when they do decide on a manufacturer it won't be with the enthusiasts in mind but rather the GP who ultimately pay for the coaster.

Their company is named after a tree too

Hey I agree with you there. We need to gain some inversions back with a high capacity looper. Still I wish they'd prefect their product, especially since its their 1st type of coaster ever built. If we had a painless one the size of Vortex at Carowinds or Georgia Scorcher I'd be fine.

With Vortex's land being the biggest elephant in the room for KI, I think the Crypt building will continue to be put on the back burner as it isn't really losing the park any money at this point and functions as a haunt attraction. Sometime this decade I expect it to be touched but I wouldn't hold my breath with Covid-19 pushing any potential projects back.

Can someone a little older answer me this- what was 2007 season like? I was still in elementary school at the time and wasn't as big on coasters as I am now. What was it like to see Paramount gone and Cedar Fair in charge? What was the atmosphere like? Were you all genuinely happy, sad, mad, etc?

I wonder how enthusiasts speculated back then. "I wonder if we'll get an SLC like Canada's Wonderland"

Crazy that was 17 years ago. Back then would you ever think we'd have 3 B&Ms, and a GCI?

On subject with Dorney, I wonder if the park will attempt to theme parts of the park to Philly since its the nearest major city. Cedar Fair has been working to theme certain rides and sections to the regions they inhabit so I'm still kinda suprised they haven't tried to capitalize on that yet.

Michigan has a football program?

I'm often curious of the compulsion some people have to always be right about everything, to not sit back and think to oneself "hey I don't always need to chime in and feel like what I'm saying is right." I suggest a solution to this compulsion: sit back, take a breath, and tell yourself "I don't always need to feel like I'm right. I don't have to always chime in. Maybe people don't agree with me for a reason." Its not hard to do, heck I do it myself from time to time and I feel like its made me a better person.

Unfortunately its not illegal in the US to not wear a mask so you can't force that on people.

Hand sanitizer and lysol kill 99.9% of germs, not 100% Like mentioned by others, there is no guarantee that things will be 100% safe. The only way the park would ever be 100% safe of disease would be to never open again ever. People can get sick at KI regardless if there's a pandemic or not. Everything comes with a risk, how big of a risk is the debate that'll decide what opens and when.

From what I've heard, Six Flags America isn't that great of a park. All the people I know who live in the DC/ Baltimore region prefer to go to KD, or BGW. There's also some individuals who chose to trek to Great Adventure for their thrills. I wonder if gutting it and closing it would financially benefit any chain that would own it (whether that be Six Flags OR Cedar Fair). The east coast is oversaturated with parks in my opinion.