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I wonder if the tree removal and International street makeover have something to do with the parade and what route it's going to take.

You kinda ask two different questions there. Could it have been saved? Absolutely. Would it have been with modern methods? Probably not.

This place being KICentral. Not this thread. Decoding 2020 will be the thread everyone will be posting in.

I'd say about 20%. I fully expect on opening day there to be signs of construction and a wall with teasers up. At that point the "decoding 2020" thread will get opened on the main KI subforum and this thread will get pretty silent. Only a couple months till that point, so another 60 pages wouldn't be likely without spamming. The last two months have only had 18 pages for comparison.

Chances of a new B&M Coaster in 2020: 97%(3% reduction for natural disaster/terrorist acts or something else that would cause them to cancel the project) Chances of is being a Giga: 85%(Wing, floorless, and flyer are in the game, but I'd be highly surprised if they didn't go Giga) As for the permits not being proof, thats the kind of nonsense that attention seekers, contrarians, and people desperately hoping their pet project/company are coming spout off.It was the same when Banshee footers were in the ground and was clearly for a B&M inverted. There were still people on here saying it proved nothing and it was going to be an Intamin Giga. Kings Island would not have to file permits for work done elsewhere. Whoever paints the track at CSF would be contracted and paid by CSF(or possibly B&M depending on how their contract is laid out) and would have nothing to do with the Kings Island side of it. KI has a contract with B&M for a coaster. They don't contract with the people that paint the track, the steel company that made the pipe and plating that CSF uses to make the track or Joe the welder who assembled it. If Baynum is listed on KI's permits, they are doing work at KI.

Looks like right there:

Well you said you wanted a B&M clone of a typical strata coaster except with a chain lift and inversions. The whole point of strata coasters is the launch. Putting a chain lift on it just makes it a taller giga. Making it longer, adding inversions, and a chain lift makes it a completely different coaster. In other words, not a clone. If you would have just said i want a 400 ft tall coaster with inversions, I dont think anyone bats an eye. Well maybe. But to reference a specific coaster as something you want but then describe a completely different coaster and call it a clone, you make people question if you are serious or trollng. It wouldnt be the first time that happened in this thread.

This is what Banshee's tag looked like. The Part Number tells what type of coaster it is for. As for the track in the pics, I'm leaning wing. Just based on the thickness of the spine and the shape of the webs holding the rails. It looks similar to some other wing track I could find. It may match other styles they do though, so nothing I'd place a bet on.

I think its about the biggest(no pun intended) thing they could build that would be a draw to the park. They aren't in a position to build a Universal/Disney level ride, so this is about as significant a ride they could do. Now the value of that to the paying customer varies. A family with 2 small kids would not want to pay extra or see any value in a giga. A twenty year old, going to college and still living at home would more likely to be willing to pay extra for one. It's all situational. Overall though, yes, it adds value to the park.

Mystic Timbers already has the old beat up pickup trucks though.

I can't remember if this has been answered before, but does KI have a mandated height limit? I'm not talking about speculation or should/shouldn't be. I mean a definitive know there is/isn't with sourcing.

Retheme Mystic Timbers. Sell beer in the queue. Put the ride ops in flannel and Orange vests. Mount deer on the hoods of the front train cars.

And that will likely be the last pic we see of Firehawk. And probably the site till April....

Until it is...

I swear we had the same discussion about how them moving dirt over there is/is not the start of giga construction last year in this same thread. And the year before And the year before.

Its also possible that the thicker spine is an area of the coaster that experiences more stress, so they make it thicker there then transition back to regular spine. Probably all for the same coaster. See if your wife will buy you a high powered lens that can read that tag. lol Or maybe just go to the office and see if they care if you take pictures. Worse they can do is say no. ;-)

Bioreconstruct on Twitter posts weekly pics from flyovers of the Orlando parks and those parks clearly have not asked him to stop or done anything to prevent it. If you are in a manned aircraft and within FAA guidelines, it would be pretty petty for KI to ban you from the park for taking pics.

To tag along the thought of my previous post, there are pics from CSF in the Decoding 2014 thread prior to Banshee's construction posted on May 27th here: In the pics, there are some Green supports and unpainted Wing Rider track that probably ended up at Heide Park. Other than that, there is a single stack of what appears to be blue steel for the shed in the back, that likely was for Banshee. That probably gives us an idea when we can expect to see anything there. I wasn't going to dig through all 400 pages to see if there were later pics, but anyone else can feel free and try to pinpoint this. On the other hand, there was all kinds of site prep and footer-ing going on. Minus what O'rourke and the park gives us, we should see that opening day.

Thats pretty much what I said. The showed up at Kings Island shortly after the August 8th announcement, so it would have probably started showing up at CSF a couple months before then.

Anything there now will likely be going overseas. We've seen plenty of track there over the years that was confirmed for Chinese coasters. Probably a matter of quality control over what they'd save by building it in Asia, but thats speculation. But its too early for US parks 2020 coasters and too late for 2019. Parks won't want to store track all summer and CSF don't have the room. Typically anything there from early Winter to early Summer goes overseas. Early Summer to Early Winter is US parks. It's possible it would be for the SWSD coaster, as they have a longer operating season and don't have to have a spring opening. Slight chance of it being the Hershey coaster since they've announced it already, but I'm not sure about their storage situation. They do have 3 US coasters opening in 2020 though, so they might push it. I'm curious what their throughput is for coasters. How many can they pump out in a year.

Hey, B&M, this is Bill at King's Island. You know that coaster we've been having you design for the last couple of years and we aren't supposed to open until 2 and a half years from now? I know you schedule these things years out and build these things for parks all over the world, but just go ahead and bring that bad boy in a year early. Hello? Hello? I think he hung up on me.

Probably for this: https://rcdb.com/15115.htm

If that's true, then I'd wager that that footprint of the new coaster won't interact with the Firehawk footprint. Maybe the queue, lockers, or other buildings will. But these plans were definitely in place prior to mid summer.

Assuming a similar construction schedule as previous installations, it should be then. The first track showed up at KI for Banshee right after the August 8th-ish announcement date. So probably a couple months before then. I tried to search on here to see if there were pics at csf from that time period, but the search function on this site doesn't want you to search for things.