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While there may be some force of law, it's normally a voluntary thing, often with a rental fee attached. Basically, the city, county, or state government (health department) rents out a parking lot, parking garage, or convention center to host the vaccination site. Kent County, MI, in Grand Rapids, originally agreed to pay its convention authority $12k/day in facility rentals for this purpose, before getting that waived.. (Source: https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2021/02/kent-county-can-now-host-devos-place-vaccine-clinic-rent-free-following-pushback-over-12k-daily-fee.html) Meanwhile, the privately owned Suburban Collection Showplace in Metro Detroit offered up space rent-free from the start. (Source: https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2021/01/21/suburban-collection-showplace-covid-19-vaccination-novi/4245863001/)

Chad figured out you knew too much so he put an end to your dream.

S&S, now S&S Sansei, bought Arrow out of bankruptcy. They still manufacture Arrow replacement parts. Source: https://www.facebook.com/SandSSansei/photos/a.655603447945747/684447701727988/

It's entirely possible that more details leaked. I could've easily missed it at the time, and those are the only articles I can easily find. The thread on PointBuzz never seemed to dig up any concrete details, though. (Source: https://forums.pointbuzz.com/Forums/Topic/dive-coaster-coming-to-cedar-point-2/3#531420)

Yep: http://web.archive.org/web/20150913213550/sanduskyregister.com/entertainment/fairs-festivals/7372661/ http://web.archive.org/web/20150918174504/http://www.sanduskyregister.com/entertainment/fairs-festivals/7372776 And even then, I don't recall ever having actually seen the "memo" alleged by Sandusky Register, just their article about it. So, we don't even know what the alleged $15 million figure involved.

@coaster sally Given your confusion to my last post, but no clarification on what confused you, this is the part where I shrug and exit stage left.

Nope, only the ones I happen to read that don't make sense to me, and I don't single you or anyone out if that's what you're implying. I'm also confused why you feel the need to quote your OP, when that and subsequent replies are what I've been responding to.

@coaster sally No, seriously, do you care to explain yourself or just troll? Please explain how you're "confused" at me saying you need to start providing evidence, including of your claims against B&M. Your claims imply negligence on the behalf of Cedar Fair management, that they are spending more money on inferior rides, thus running the company inefficiently. Me thinks you're either confused in perpetuity, or trolling. Care to share which it is?

[citation needed] That's really all that's left to be said here.

Not relevant to your claim that parks will buy rides from essentially everyone but B&M somehow as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic? Then what is relevant? Bashing B&M with no basis in reality? The post you replied to used specific evidence that refutes that.

That's just marketing - finding some unique and interesting way to describe the ride to make people want to ride it. Even if a ride isn't the most extreme thing ever built, they still need to tell you how much fun it is. "Introducing GateKeeper, a brief, tame, leisurely ride around the front of the park. Oh and it flips you over a few times, I guess." Who would want to ride that?

One thing that troubles me is that some enthusiasts want every new ride installation to be the most mind-blowing thing they've ever seen. Yes, pushing the limits and creating new thrills at the high thrill end of the ride portfolio is important to keep thrill-seekers engaged. To an extent. (Not to the extent of that mythical ride in Saudi Arabia; that's overkill, but anyway..). There is still a decent segment of park attendance that doesn't want to ride those super-high thrill rides. Some guests would prefer something less tame. Wise park planners will take this into account, creating rides of many thrill levels. Also, low-to-moderate thrill rides will reach end-of-life over time and need replacement. One example where this dynamic came up was GateKeeper. Many enthusiasts complain it's not an extremely high thrill ride. But guess what? It wasn't intended to be. It's a more moderate thrill ride designed to welcome you to the park, not to pander to enthusiasts. And I love it for what it is.

@MysticEnthusiast, see:

It's typical toxic fanboyism; you'll find it anywhere.. The company they like is infallible and everything else is garbage in comparison. See also: Android vs. iOS, Tesla vs. anyone else, etc. B&M makes high quality, highly reliable, highly enjoyable rides for the guests of any park that can afford them. If you want something more innovative, you'll generally need to look elsewhere at a company that makes trade-offs to give you that innovation (e.g. INTAMIN). But then, everything in life involves risks and trade-offs. I have my own preferences in these and other areas, but I respect the opinions of others. I try to be open-minded, not blindly loyal to one brand. And guess what? All that really matters at the end of a roller coaster is whether or not it was FUN more than it hurt (see The Beast ). Indeed. My point was that referring to "The end of B&M" has no basis in reality.

It's almost as if multi-billion dollar corporations don't just make decisions based on whether to keep B&M in business or not. Instead, it's based on who is able to build what they, as the client, wants at that time. It says a lot that they rebuilt Hulk without any major changes. They committed not just to keeping a B&M ride on that site, but the same one, for at least another couple decades. That would've been the time to spend a little extra and get an entirely new ride with a new layout, but nope. B&M builds a great ride that doesn't need to be tossed out just because the Floridian weather wore out the steel. So again, I do not understand the premise of the OP. This makes about as much sense as threads on MacRumors saying "[X Product] is almost certainly coming this year!"

I'm still waiting on an LSM-launched flying coaster.

Indeed, they're not the ones with the huge capital outlay. They're a team of engineers, architects, etc. in an office who do some of the design and engineering work in-house, and contract other parts. The steel for their rides, for instance, is contracted out to Clermont Steel Fabricators who require the large facility and expensive equipment to manufacture large steel assemblies. The environmental assessments and assembly are generally performed by firms in the area around the park purchasing the ride. If properly managed from a financial standpoint, I don't see why B&M couldn't weather a brief downturn while keeping most staff. If they really were short on business, they could always work on innovative new designs. They could even apply their skills to construction projects other than roller coasters to bring in extra cash. Walter & Claude are said to have left Giovanola not even wanting to work on another roller coaster, but they couldn't turn down the money from Six Flags. Your suggestion that this pandemic will present an existential crisis (or really any crisis) to B&M is... Well, this is a family-friendly forum, so I can't really say it.

So I, the park guest, have to see that you're not wearing a mask, then see that there's a band on your wrist and somehow that makes me feel better? Not seeing it.

For one, it's really hard to make rules that only apply to some people, in this case wearing a mask based on something that's hard to validate - being vaccinated. How can I, as a fellow park guest, trust that you have been vaccinated while we browse the same shop, for instance? For trust, optics, etc., it's better that everyone follow the same rule. Also, being vaccinated doesn't magically prevent you from getting infected. A vaccine teaches your immune system how to fight an infection, which means you have to have the beginnings of an infection for it to do anything. So, even if you're vaccinated which helps you fight off the virus without symptoms, you could still be yet another asymptomatic spreader, even if only briefly. These things may change once enough herd immunity is built up through actual infections as well as vaccinations, but for now, it's important that everyone continues to respect the masks.

To clarify, Cedar Point's opening day is scheduled for May 14. No word on any passholder preview events, nor any rescheduled 150th anniversary events. They did have some preview events planned in 2020 for the 150th, which were canceled for obvious reasons.

No worries.

April Fools'? Presumably you mean Winter Chill Out, a limited attendance off-season tour generally accompanied by a meal and presentation and/or Q&A session, where the entire ticket cost goes a charity of the park's choice (A Kid Again for 2021), and employees volunteering their time to participate. WCO is nothing like Winterfest, a Christmas-themed event with rides, shows, meals, etc., all open to the general public as a profit-generating endeavor, and included with your Gold or Platinum Pass.

It's there under 2021 Season Passes > 2021 Add-Ons (Carowinds and Canada's Wonderland for reference).

Are you serious? Okay, let me put it this way. In their app, in that card on that screen, they are advertising that they are selling tickets and passes for their park. That's it. They are not advertising a specific ride on that screen. For info on the rides available at the park, there are screens that list the names, basic description and stats for some, and location within the park. There is even an interactive map that helps you find rides, attractions, and services within the park. No name or description of the generic ride design shown on the card that's pushing tickets and passes. This is no different that television advertising campaigns used for many years by Cedar Fair. If they're trying to sell you on a specific ride, they give you the name and a description. Otherwise, it's a generic representation of the things you'll find at the park. If "a gp'er sees that ride", they're much more likely to say, "Cool, a roller coaster! We should go! Hey where can I see what rides they have?" Not, "Oh that thumbnail looked cool, I'm going there just for that ride, whatever it is!"

I'm pretty sure that tickets and passes for Kings Island are available to be bought through their app, so, no..