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What is the worst roller coaster you've ever ridden?
jsus replied to Dj325's topic in Other Amusement Parks & Industry News
Easy, Mean Streak. With how violent it was, it's the only ride I've ever been glad it was over. -
Yep. The two options are all parks or just the one you purchase it at. It doesn't matter where you got your pass from. Make sure you read the name of the product you're buying - it will specify if it's only for the "home park". That's not the park you got your pass from originally; it's the park you buy All Season Fast Lane at. If your pass is from Kings Island, and you only want All Season Fast Lane for Kings Island, that's where you have to buy it. If you only want it for Cedar Point, you have to buy it there. If you see the option for all parks, then you can add it to your pass from any park where it's currently available. And as always, Fast Lane availability is based on allocation by the park and corporate. Since 2020 passes and add-ons are valid thru the 2021 season, and many did buy All Season Fast Lane for 2020, I expect availability in 2021 to be limited.
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That would depend on if you're looking for All-Season Fast Lane for all parks or just one. You should be able to buy the chain-wide version from any park (that's currently selling it, like @disco2000 mentioned). If you're looking for just one park, you'll need to buy it from the park you want to use it at.
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The payment plan was for an experience that was not possible per the passholder's expectations at time of purchase. Yes, some parks did open in 2020 in a limited capacity, but it was nowhere near the same length of season, operating hours, or experience when in the park. For a variety of reasons, many passholders were unable to or otherwise chose not to use their passes in 2020 due to health and safety concerns. Due to pandemic-induced financial constraints, I have to imagine there would have been a substantial number of passholders electing to default on their payment plans as well. When you're unemployed, paying Cedar Fair for a pass you can't use isn't exactly a high priority. By pausing payment plans and extending 2020 passes thru 2021, they get not only PR but a better chance at actually collecting on those payment plans and (hopefully) fewer guests demanding refunds. Plus, it may prove beneficial with a boost in in-park per cap spending. Indeed, it's a business, not a charity, and as a business that's looking to increase its passholder base, treating them well in a crisis will go a long way in that regard.
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It's really not that simple. Keep in mind that the intended target for a Platinum Pass from a given park is guests who will use that park as their primary or "home" park. Platinum Passes sold by Canada's Wonderland, then, would be intended (but not exclusively) sold to Ontario residents. It's basically a loophole for a US citizen to buy a Platinum Pass online from CW without visiting the park, gaming the exchange rate. With the US-Canadian border, closed, it's not like an Ontario resident could visit KI or CP, for instance, and there are no other CFEC parks in Canada. So why keep billing when the actual number of pass uses in US parks was likely quite low anyway? If you lived near, say, Knott's Berry Farm which did not reopen after March 14, and had a Platinum Pass from KBF, there isn't another park anywhere nearby you could've used it. The closest park, California's Great America, is over 5.5 hours away and did not open in 2020. It's hard to treat all Platinum Passholders equally when the nature of this pandemic means they aren't equally able to use their passes.
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Further point of clarification - if a park did not open in 2020 and has not yet resumed billing on payment plans, you're still considered up-to-date. If, say, you have a Platinum Pass from Canada's Wonderland, your payment plan has been frozen since April 15. It was valid for use at the parks that did open this year (e.g. KI, CP), and you don't have to resume payments until some date announced by the park in the future.
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Just make sure your payment plan (if applicable) is up to date. All eligible 2020 Cedar Fair passes are to simply keep working in 2021 with the same features and benefits (including add-ons, e.g. dining).
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To paraphrase, with the preventative measures we're taking appearing to be highly effective, why don't we just throw them out with both the baby and the bathwater? You're also lumping the actions of many somewhat independent governments into one evil "the government". Michigan is taking different actions than Ohio, such as not implementing a COVID-19-only-comes-out-at-night curfew, for example.
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Yup. Looks like Cedar Fair had the exclusive rights to the IP for theme/amusement parks and CFEC + MoA couldn't come to a licensing deal, so the mall went with the Nickelodeon IP that CFEC abandoned when buying the Paramount Parks. https://www.startribune.com/camp-snoopy-who-nickelodeon-runs-the-show-now-at-mall-of-america/130570388/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelodeon_Universe#Camp_Snoopy
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It's much too early to speculate on that, IMO. Like @IndyGuy4KI hinted at, requiring advanced reservations is likely to discourage guests, both passholders and daily ticket holders, from visiting. The park wants every bit of reduced capacity filled if possible; it's a business, after all. The reasons for the reservation system in the first place was to ensure that they didn't have more people show up than the park could handle under pandemic capacity restrictions. The arrival time windows were to prevent a large gathering outside of the gate of people waiting to go through the health and security theatrics. The latter was relatively quickly abandoned based on data showing people continued to show up staggered throughout the day. (They do have historical data that shows trends of how many show up at open and each hour thereafter, from many years of operations). A museum near me has its own outdoor "village" component to it. When it reopened, both venues required advanced reservations, even for members. After a bit, they learned about the visitor habits and started easing up. Members didn't need to make a reservation for the museum, then the public didn't, for summer, while they were still required for the village. Once fall set in and people wanted to spend more time inside, they dropped the village reservations but reinstated them for the museum. So there's a lot of that currently up in the air. What will the park capacity cap look like in 2021? Will they need to stick to 50%, can they go up to 75% or 100%? That's affected by a variety of things, but mainly how quickly the situation can change. There's apparently a more contagious strain of COVID-19 going around that's been confirmed in the US. There are also two vaccines currently being rolled out with more in development. If the pandemic is under control and we start building enough herd immunity through vaccines, well, that'll help reduce the risks of large crowds like tend to happen at amusement/theme parks, thus perhaps allowing higher capacity. Of course, if the pandemic does start to die down, many people who were unable to travel and partake in public entertainment will have pent-up demand, which could itself be the key reason the reservation system comes back. All this goes to say that it depends on how things progress. The park wants to get as many guests through the gate and into the shops, restaurants, and games as it can. Reservation systems by design keep guests away, something they will avoid unless necessary to comply with health and safety guidelines.
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It would take way more than a complete, catastrophic cable failure for an elevator to become a free-fall Drop Tower. Roller coasters have anti-rollbacks on their lift hills; you better believe elevators have similar safety features. Basically, there's a brake that automatically engages when the cables fail to hold the weight of the elevator carriage. Elevators are incredibly safe; like roller coasters, it's much more likely it'll stop mid-cycle rather than suffer from any mechanical issue, certainly a free-fall. https://time.com/4700084/elevator-patent-history-otis-safety/ https://www.otis.com/en/us/tools-resources/high-rise-safety-systems
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Eh, Cedar Fair corporate likes to throw the word "cedar" in various names. The also like to have fun using thematic names from one park at another (e.g. Cedar Creek Flyers at Dorney Park, playing off Cedar Creek Mine Ride at CP). Cedar also makes you think of cedar trees, which makes you think of the woods. You're not actually camping in the woods, but that's the mindset they want to put you in.
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Yikes. If they really did board the plane showing obvious symptoms, and signed off that they had no symptoms and hadn't tested postiive, this isn't a good look for the family, United, or anyone at the airport. I can't imagine being a passenger on that flight.
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Sawmill Creek Resort Partners File Lawsuit
jsus replied to Leland Wykoff's topic in Other Amusement Parks & Industry News
That's a link to subscribe to Sandusky Register, did you mean to link to something else? -
Based on what we've heard of asymptomatic spread, it would not surprise me. You really have to assume that someone has it everywhere you go, which is the purpose behind the physical distancing, masks, keeping hands clean, and other precautions we've been advised to take.
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There's not remotely enough detail here to read anything into it. Someone flying from some unknown origin died on a flight. Tragic indeed. The family had "Disney bags". Is that luggage, merch shop bags, or something else entirely? They assume the family was flying from WDW, but they don't even say the plane departed from Orlando. The poster claims a nurse was on the flight who determined it to be related to COVID-19? Based on? They were apparently allowed through the airport and onto the plane with "major" symptoms of COVID-19? How did that happen? But I digress. Perhaps someone did visit WDW while infected with COVID-19, but this random post on Twitter is hardly darning evidence.
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They may well be demo'ing sections at a time, I was just saying it sounds like the whole length should see this work before the off season is up.
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Seems clear to me that the entire length between those two points is being redone, with no gaps.
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People are stupid and will continue to do stupid things, like refuse to wear masks and practice physical distancing. We won't have a majority of people vaccinated for quite some time (months? a year?), and enough to have adequate herd immunity will take even longer. That said, a lot of the measures our governments have taken have been... questionable at best. Apparently COVID-19 only spreads at night in states like Ohio.. There's not going to be an overnight switch-flip of "back to normal". Some things will never be the same again. Some people will need time to readjust to going out into modern society again. It's all going to be gradual no matter how you do it, even if only because that's what the people need.
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It's the same with any other preventative measure. You don't ignore all the other measures; instead, they all work together to keep you safe. In a car equipped with automatic emergency braking, it's the last line of defense. Not an excuse for you to not watch out and be proactive to avoid dangerous situations. We have airbags and seatbelts in cars, but we still strive to not be in a crash to test these (and more) defenses. Modern commercial and multi-tenant buildings are equipped with fire suppression systems, but we still take great efforts to prevent uncontrolled fires from starting inside a building. It's better to be proactive than reactive. Being proactive doesn't mean hiding from all risk of danger. It means taking reasonable efforts to ensure we don't need to rely on our last line of defenses. Yes, our body does have the defenses of the anti-bodies built by the vaccine, but that should be the last line of defense, much like automatic emergency braking, seat belts, airbags, etc. in a car, or the fire suppression system that erroneously tripped in a school one time.. In the case of COVID-19, being proactive means still continuing to physically distance from others, and not hang around those who are sick. It doesn't mean you have to hide next to the ballots under a rock.
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Kings Island Camp Cedar to Open Spring 2021
jsus replied to IndyGuy4KI's topic in Kings Island Central Newsroom
That's all we can do without access to demand and pricing data. I will say that I see and know of plenty of people with RVs and campers, but few people ever even talk about tent camping. Anecdotal, yes, so take it for what it's worth. -
Short for the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Portability_and_Accountability_Act
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Kings Island Camp Cedar to Open Spring 2021
jsus replied to IndyGuy4KI's topic in Kings Island Central Newsroom
RV sites likely rent for more per sqft, including charges for electricity, etc. I imagine they're also much more in-demand than (sub)urban tent camping these days. Camp Cedar isn't intended to be a rustic camping trip, biut rather a modern retreat. -
All I did was note that survival rate is not everything. I'm not sure why you quoted me or if you even disagree with me (not sure how that even works).
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"Survival" is not the only important metric. There are countless cases of people who "recovered" and are still suffering with various symptoms months later. Concerns for lasting lung damage, mental health issues, etc. So you might not die, but your life will never be the same.