standbyme Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Woo Hoo! I finally have something about The Peanuts coming that is at least good news for me! One of my MAJOR complaints has been that the costumes of the actual gang were SO bad…but it appears CF might have been listening to our complaints! Rachel & company posted a picture of them over on Facebook with Linus at Carowinds…and I was VERY pleasantly surprised with Linus’ new look. Notice how much nicer the new Linus is. His head is rounder, he has a nicer smile…plus the eyes are smaller…not creepy at all! I also like that his body is now more childlike…we don’t see as much of his legs, which makes him appear shorter…and the shoes are a lot bigger. I am hoping that all of the gang got the same makeover. Nice job Cedar Fair!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Butcher Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I will echo CoastersRZ's sentiments about Planet Snoopy at Carowinds. We spent extensive amounts of time in the area (it is impossible to not walk near it), and not once did we see anyone complain about the lack of Nickelodeon characters or even refer to the area as Nickelodeon Universe. We heard one group of teens talk about "Fairly Odd Coaster" and how they like "Woodstock Express" better. All in all, the kids were having fun, and so were their parents. The area was refreshed, and had a lot nicer theming than the old Nickelodeon Universe. The whole area looked so inviting with flags and pictures of the characters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Only Kings Island had Nick Universe.... Terpy, just sayin' (Carowinds had Nick Central, and it was never highly themed, though the Spongebob statue in bronze colored metal was nice...and has been replaced by a white beagle statue!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Certainly no Mystery Machine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyMan98 Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 I love the Snow Cones stand! So far, I'm liking this better than NU......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Butcher Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 I personally think that these characters, lend themselves to conveying more emotion to the guests. It seems to me that people can relate more to these characters who live in a world such as us, than to say, Sponge Bob who usually tackled some of our same problems, but lived essentially in an alternative universe. I am not sure of the impact this has on children who the area is ultimately for, but as an adult I feel I can relate to many of the stories told by The Peanuts gang. I like the changeover so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH13TEEN Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 ^ Refering to the new costumes. I beleive all the new Planet Snoopy's are useing them. California's Great Amrica & Carowinds have had the costume make overs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 And those costumes look even better in person than they do in pictures. I like them very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
standbyme Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 It seems to me that people can relate more to these characters who live in a world such as us, than to say, Sponge Bob who usually tackled some of our same problems, but lived essentially in an alternative universe. Cory...you KNOW I respect your opinion...but how can someone who loves the fantasy world of WDW make such a statement?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Butcher Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 It seems to me that people can relate more to these characters who live in a world such as us, than to say, Sponge Bob who usually tackled some of our same problems, but lived essentially in an alternative universe. Cory...you KNOW I respect your opinion...but how can someone who loves the fantasy world of WDW make such a statement?! Easy, first off Walt Disney World (I assume you are meaning the parks in their entirety?) celebrates all of life really. The things celebrated in their park have a strong emotional presence. Aside from "Fantasy Land" Magic Kingdom is not a fantasy world, it is a combination of certain peoples fantasies I am sure, but it is not a fantasy world. Tomorrow Land is all very believable as is Adventureland, Frontierland etc. There are few relevant cartoon character tie-ins in these areas. Fantasyland in particular brings you some more characters, but even then, they all call this universe home for the most part. They are believable. EPCOT celebrates a world of intrigue, mystery, innovation, and science. Hollywood Studios celebrates the grandeur of Hollywood and its creations, which once again for the Disney Company are very believable. Finally, Animal Kingdom celebrates the biology of life, and once again aside from maybe Bugs Life, everything is believable. See, I also like The Whimsical World Of Dr. Seuss at Universal. Though the area is as far fetched as can be, there is one big common theme, and it is so well themed and well done. You are truly immersed in the experience. The area becomes believable. This is different than the previous "Nickelodeon Universe" area. The area was a mix and match of cartoon characters with no common theme. The only thing common with the Nickelodeon endeavor was the orange blob logo. Rugrats were talking babies, Dora The Explorer was an educational cartoon, Spongebob (One of the best cartoons) involved another universe, and some significant personification, Then you have Fairly Odd Parents, and Jimmy Neutron, and then Backyardigans. Nothing matched. There was no common theme whatsoever. Peanuts brings the characters and their relationships and their identities to every ride in the area now. A complete hole-free theme. The fantasy world of WDW that you speak of is much more Planet Snoopy than Nickelodeon Universe if you are forcing this analogy. That is how I can enjoy both. You see, at WDW every area flows from one attraction to the next. Planet Snoopy will have a common bond, one that Nick Universe did not have. Now had we said Nickelodeon Universe would become "Spongebob's Under The Sea" and the whole area would be themed to all things spongebob, then that area would be one large congruent area. As it was prior to Planet Snoopy, Nickelodeon seamed a disjointed mess with no clear theme. Before someone notes some information I missed about the lands at WDW, I was trying to condense this to the present size, so I left out so much more content in explaining the areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Planet Snoopy. Walt Disney World. It's A Small World, After All..... Terpy, who seldom misses a chance to point out that particular fun piece of wisdom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRided Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Certainly no Mystery Machine! i think its cool that alot of the art work is hand painted and not decals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
standbyme Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 (I assume you are meaning the parks in their entirety?) I should have been more specific...actually I did mean Magic Kingdom/Fantasyland basically. I don't know why...but whenever I think of Walt Disney World I think Magic Kingdom...the other parks are seperate entities in my opinion. When anyone says that they went to WDW I never think of Epcot, The Animal Kingdom or Hollywood Studios. So with that said, I still beg to differ that there is anything different about Fantasyland or Nick Universe...they both are held together by the same theme...fantasy. I do not see anything other than that holding Fantasyland together, that is the only common thread. You have talking animals...just like in NU, you have magical characters...just like in NU, you have (talking) undersea creatures...just like in NU. I don't see the difference. How can you tie Snow White, Winnie The Pooh & Alice In Wonderland together except for being children's books...and if that's the case doesn't the fact that Nick is all on the same channel count? Don't get me wrong...I love them both...I just don't see how Fantasyland's concept can be considered anymore cohesive than NU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 And whenever I hear someone went to Disney, I hope in my heart of hearts they meant Disneyland and California Adventure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I have not yet made it out to Disneyland or California Adventure yet. Some day I hope to get out there. Some day when I have the money and time to make a west coast trip, I will find my way out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Butcher Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 (I assume you are meaning the parks in their entirety?) I should have been more specific...actually I did mean Magic Kingdom/Fantasyland basically. I don't know why...but whenever I think of Walt Disney World I think Magic Kingdom...the other parks are seperate entities in my opinion. When anyone says that they went to WDW I never think of Epcot, The Animal Kingdom or Hollywood Studios. So with that said, I still beg to differ that there is anything different about Fantasyland or Nick Universe...they both are held together by the same theme...fantasy. I do not see anything other than that holding Fantasyland together, that is the only common thread. You have talking animals...just like in NU, you have magical characters...just like in NU, you have (talking) undersea creatures...just like in NU. I don't see the difference. How can you tie Snow White, Winnie The Pooh & Alice In Wonderland together except for being children's books...and if that's the case doesn't the fact that Nick is all on the same channel count? Don't get me wrong...I love them both...I just don't see how Fantasyland's concept can be considered anymore cohesive than NU. All that you have just mentioned is why Fantasyland is getting a very serious reworking in the near future. You are right about Fantasyland, that is my least favorite area of the park. But keep in mind, when you said that I loved the Fantasy world of WDW, that meant to me the whole park, or at least Magic Kingdom. But Magic Kingdom is not just Fantasyland, that is a very small part, and the most concrete-heavy portion of the park. So you are right, Fantasyland's concept is not more cohesive, but the characters are at least much more believable than the NU characters, which almost allows the area to be decent in its current incarnation. Peter Pan, It's a Small World, Winnie The Pooh, are much bigger entities than any Nick cartoon ever was. So once again, what I like about Peanuts in the area now, is the continuity between rides, and the general theme which allows for I feel, greater emotion to be transferred to the guests in the area. This emotion is currently lacking from Fantasyland at WDW, which is why you are seeing a great new rework for the Littler Mermaid and Ariel's Grotto, as well as some other additions and renovations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
standbyme Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Fantasyland, that is my least favorite area of the park. When I read this I though "Are you kidding me?!"...but then I quickly thought of the other sections of Magic Kingdom...and I guess Fantasyland is also MY least favorite! (But only by a small margin.) I think it is hard for an adult to judge Fantasyland unless they either went to it as a child or are experiencing it through a child's eyes. I personally love Fantasyland because I enjoy seeing my nephews having such a great time. I am not sure how I would feel about that area if I visited as an adult for the first time and I wasn't with any children...it's something I will never be able to answer. (But i'm glad. ) WARNING:Peanuts bashing alert: So once again, what I like about Peanuts in the area now, is the continuity between rides... How hard is that when the rides are named repeatedly after the same characters! (Maybe WDW can take a page from CF...Dumbo's Tea Party, Dumbo Pan, Dumbo The Pooh...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I thought Dumbo the Pooh drafted the recent Merger Agreement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Butcher Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 So once again, what I like about Peanuts in the area now, is the continuity between rides... How hard is that when the rides are named repeatedly after the same characters! (Maybe WDW can take a page from CF...Dumbo's Tea Party, Dumbo Pan, Dumbo The Pooh...) As always, you have a good point there. But, there is some variety. Woodstock, Linus, Flying Ace, Joe Cool, Peanuts, Sally, Snoopy, Great Pumpkin. So, I would not say that is the same characters/ideas used all over. I think that some other characters should have made an appearance, but overall the names have more variety than you give them credit for, This is also why WDW would not theme an area to just Dumbo. Speaking to that, an area themed to the "Hundred Acre Woods" in Fantasyland could be really well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
standbyme Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Woodstock, Linus, Flying Ace, Joe Cool, Peanuts, Sally, Snoopy, Great Pumpkin. I just ran over to the site to double check my memory...there are 18 rides...and 6 of the 18 are Snoopy. Just because Snoopy puts on a flying cap or sunglasses...it's still Snoopy! (Just like at WDW...even though Mickey dresses different at each character meal...it's still Mickey.) The balls in your court! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyMan98 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 It seems like most of them are Snoopy named........but, as you said, I guess not.......^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTCO Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I love the paint jobs going on in PS! Looks fantastic! 5 stars to CF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Butcher Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 The names are proportionate to the star power of the character it seems. 6 of 18 is 33% Snoopy involvement in the theme. Even then, only 3 of those specifically include Snoopy in the name. I fail to see this as a bad thing. Snoopy is definitely the bread winner of the gang with Charlie Brown and Woodstock being almost tied for second. I think it fits. Either way, Carowinds' Planet Snoopy looked great, a ride is a ride, a name is a name, and Kings Island's Planet Snoopy will be a guest hit for kids and adults alike. The new area will, and already does look fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 ...especially the Woodstock's Gliders... Terpy, who likes snapping... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Now if only that ride could find its way back to its true home... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Coney Island of Ohio! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTCO Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 ... I agree with that statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Yep. Although, it actually operated at Kings Island longer (1972-2004, 32 years) compared to when it was at Coney (1940-1971, 31 years). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Based on that trend, they should be at Carowinds for 33 years....and then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondback96 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Based on that trend, they should be at Carowinds for 33 years....and then... KD for 34? CP for 34? The possibilities are endless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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